Music Streaming Business

elrond693 · May 19, 2020

azuriixoxo said:
Either. I'm "outsourcing" the streaming but don't wanna go into detail since I don't know if I'm burning money right nor or making money. Will see in July first results of my method

BTW: Does someone has worked with Freshtunes? Starting out with that distributor since they dont take any fees or % shares

I have kind of a mixed experience with Freshtunes, I used them for a few month and everything seemed to go smooth then out of nowhere they asked me to justify the ownership of the songs and even though I replied telling I was producing my own sounds and asking what proof they needed more, they just closed my account without further informations, ignoring my email. I have other artists on clean accounts but I've been unable to withdraw for now, I don't know why but there's an error when I try to initiate a withdrawal. I guess i'll wait a bit to see.

Russ Thomas said:
Datacenter. You can get static datacenter with unlimited bandwidth. For residential static proxies, is way too expensive

Don't you have any problems with datacenter IPs ? I heard there was a risk of getting flagged by the platforms.

azuriixoxo · May 19, 2020

elrond693 said:
I have kind of a mixed experience with Freshtunes, I used them for a few month and everything seemed to go smooth then out of nowhere they asked me to justify the ownership of the songs and even though I replied telling I was producing my own sounds and asking what proof they needed more, they just closed my account without further informations, ignoring my email. I have other artists on clean accounts but I've been unable to withdraw for now, I don't know why but there's an error when I try to initiate a withdrawal. I guess i'll wait a bit to see.

Oh man, hope they don't start crying with all those accounts then .. How do they want to justify the ownership? Like do you have literally to show them the project file or what lol

How long does it take for the songs to get into the stores? Submitted 2 songs 4 days ago still "in progress"

elrond693 · May 19, 2020

azuriixoxo said:
Oh man, hope they don't start crying with all those accounts then .. How do they want to justify the ownership? Like do you have literally to show them the project file or what lol

How long does it take for the songs to get into the stores? Submitted 2 songs 4 days ago still "in progress"

Usually it's quick (a few days) but I think because of the crisis these days they take longer to moderate the songs.

elrond693 · May 20, 2020

Quick update on Freshtunes, today I've been able to initiate a withdrawal, we'll see how long they take to send the money, I think it can be up to 60 days...

azuriixoxo · May 20, 2020

elrond693 said:
Quick update on Freshtunes, today I've been able to initiate a withdrawal, we'll see how long they take to send the money, I think it can be up to 60 days...

60 Days? What the hell man ... Hope it will be faster

Are you pushing your songs too or organic royalties?

Pushing one of my tracks for +6 days now with a max. of 500 Streams per Day with T1 Premium Accounts, so far no problems.

elrond693 · May 20, 2020

azuriixoxo said:
60 Days? What the hell man ... Hope it will be faster

Are you pushing your songs too or organic royalties?

Pushing one of my tracks for +6 days now with a max. of 500 Streams per Day with T1 Premium Accounts, so far no problems.

I heard many people complaining the withdrawal was taking too long and Freshtunes answering it's written in their ToS it could take up to 60 days

I'm pushing my tracks, I sometimes get random plays from somewhere around the world but it's minimal compared to the pushed streams

azuriixoxo · May 20, 2020

elrond693 said:
I heard many people complaining the withdrawal was taking too long and Freshtunes answering it's written in their ToS it could take up to 60 days

I'm pushing my tracks, I sometimes get random plays from somewhere around the world but it's minimal compared to the pushed streams

well, there has to be a disadvantage when the distribution is free..

Which amount did you request to withdraw if I can ask you?

elrond693 · May 20, 2020

azuriixoxo said:
well, there has to be a disadvantage when the distribution is free..

Which amount did you request to withdraw if I can ask you?

As it's a fresh account and my first withdrawal I requested 25 (as you can only withdraw multiples of 25)

azuriixoxo · May 21, 2020

elrond693 said:
As it's a fresh account and my first withdrawal I requested 25 (as you can only withdraw multiples of 25)

Well it seems to work. Still annoying that they bring in 60 days for payout in their TOS.

I'd reinvest the 25 bucks and upload a track on a paid distributor so the money can get multiplied quicklier

streamkite · May 21, 2020

Guys, Distrokid is $12 after 40% off and you get paid the next day when you withdraw to Paypal.

Seosavvy · May 21, 2020

streamkite said:
Maybe it was streamed less than the other tracks. Personally I would start again with a new artist rather than continue to use one after all the songs except one were removed.

I've never used them, only DKid amd a couple of others. Amuse and Soundrop are another 2 to keep away from.

Hello, just saw your post and I am a bit confused. Did you say stay away from Dkid ? or from all of them Amuse, soundrop ?

I myself is in the music and show streaming business as well. I am actually in process of starting a channel that should do well if I do great content. Goal is to run ads through Tik Tok then drive traffic to youtube.

By any chance do you know where I can copyright animated videos so they get submitted into youtubes content id?

streamkite · May 21, 2020

Seosavvy said:
Hello, just saw your post and I am a bit confused. Did you say stay away from Dkid ? or from all of them Amuse, soundrop ?

I myself is in the music and show streaming business as well. I am actually in process of starting a channel that should do well if I do great content. Goal is to run ads through Tik Tok then drive traffic to youtube.

By any chance do you know where I can copyright animated videos so they get submitted into youtubes content id?

No I was saying stay away from Recordjet, Amuse and Soundrop.

I don't do anything with YT, sorry.

azuriixoxo · May 21, 2020

streamkite said:
Guys, Distrokid is $12 after 40% off and you get paid the next day when you withdraw to Paypal.

thanks for the hint! Can also recommend Spinnup they pay like 1 second after clicking the withdrawal button (literally no joke, they’re insanely fast).

Crummbie said:
Heyo. I'm doing Spotify botting for 1 year and over 3 months. I had over 45 songs and 4 artists. I get ~4000E/month depends by month. I've wrote a eBook about this method and made a little community. I have over 40 customers. No one have been banned. Some of my customers are botting something like 100-150k streams per day. We are not using any kind of bots, just web-browser chromes loop plays and some tricks.

I have couple friends who developed Spotify Streaming Bots, some of their tracks get banned too. During the new API, Spotify bots/checkers are rapping the accounts and get tracks banned. If you are doing everything legit for your artist (balance between streams-likes-follow, artist IG page, Twitter, etc) nothing will happen.

Last week, Distrokid just added ID verification (passport and driver license) for new artists.

About Napster, I've started 1 month ago and is working fine. You can't abuse Napster stats cuz will be suspicious at. I'm generating 5-10k streams per day. (means like 40-100$ per day) for each song. My technique is pretty complex but in the same way simple at. You just need some brain to make it happen' and generate some good money.

@azuriixoxo we can talk on Discord for a potential collab. I am looking for a coder. I have a good idea for a simple and efficient bot. PM me.

Thanks but I’d have to refresh my coding skills since I learned coding specifically for this project and it’s 6 months ago where I programmed by bots.

Btw guys, when do you start streaming your tracks? Directly after publishing or do you wait some days / weeks?

elrond693 · May 21, 2020

streamkite said:
Guys, Distrokid is $12 after 40% off and you get paid the next day when you withdraw to Paypal.

Actually I recently signed up to DK, but what scares me is the potential (and now often mandatory) 30% tax withdrawal on the payout when you're not from the US. Guess I'll see..;

azuriixoxo said:
thanks for the hint! Can also recommend Spinnup they pay like 1 second after clicking the withdrawal button (literally no joke, they’re insanely fast).

Thanks but I’d have to refresh my coding skills since I learned coding specifically for this project and it’s 6 months ago where I programmed by bots.

Btw guys, when do you start streaming your tracks? Directly after publishing or do you wait some days / weeks?

I start streaming directly after publishing right now.

streamkite · May 21, 2020

elrond693 said:
Actually I recently signed up to DK, but what scares me is the potential (and now often mandatory) 30% tax withdrawal on the payout when you're not from the US. Guess I'll see..;

The percentage depends on your country's tax treaties with the US. It's not a blanket 30% for every country. Some countries are 5%, 10%, and even 0%.

elrond693 · May 21, 2020

streamkite said:
The percentage depends on your country's tax treaties with the US. It's not a blanket 30% for every country. Some countries are 5%, 10%, and even 0%.

The problem is I've read about people that claimed the benefice of the tax treaty but DK withhold 30% regardless. But there's no way to know before the first payout.

specialfundeee · May 22, 2020

azuriixoxo said:
Hey all,

last november I decided to get my foot into the music streaming business and stream my own music to get the royalties.

I learned programming and programmed a bot on a VM to create streaming accs and stream the music and did some stuff to stay „undetected“.

Unfortunately my music was taken down from spotify (except 1 track uploaded in 2018), most of the music is still up on other platforms.

I’ve made around 140€ in a short time but stopped this project. Still figuring out what I’ve made wrong since it’s HEAVILY lucrative..

Just wondering if there are people here that are active in that buis that I can talk to for some guidance maybe?

i would like to know more please PM me.

azuriixoxo · May 24, 2020

streamkite said:
Guys, Distrokid is $12 after 40% off and you get paid the next day when you withdraw to Paypal.

Dude, DK is the real shit. Submitted a track yesterday and its already on Spotify. Damn.

specialfundeee said:
i would like to know more please PM me.

What exactly do you want to know? Wouldn't mind to discuss here so everyone can benefit of it

HustleTong · May 24, 2020

streamkite said:
Browser-based bot = BAN
Rotating proxies = BAN
Large number of streams on a track in a month = BAN
Low listener to streams ratio = BAN

And all that was long before this year. Spotify haven't been sitting on their hands during this pandemic either. They implemented massive changes to their api in March and April, which is why you may have noticed several services selling streams are now either "on a break" or closed completely. Streamify used to be all over Google ads, but now "Orders are suspended."

This seems informative.

specialfundeee · May 26, 2020

azuriixoxo said:
Dude, DK is the real shit. Submitted a track yesterday and its already on Spotify. Damn.

What exactly do you want to know? Wouldn't mind to discuss here so everyone can benefit of it

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azuriixoxo said:
Dude, DK is the real shit. Submitted a track yesterday and its already on Spotify. Damn.

What exactly do you want to know? Wouldn't mind to discuss here so everyone can benefit of it

Great! So i have an international web hosting that i was gonna use for a website but the Control panel is out dated and atrocious. So I ported my site to another hosting. So the hosting that is just sitting there comes with 3 VPS and I want to know how i can utilize these to stream. Background information on me is I'm a content creator, I create beats and do artwork and have an underground artist. I just want to know the steps (total songs, length of song, how to set up stream etc) and the things I should do or avoid to not become banned. As you see I am rookie to this, but I know an artist who works with one other guy who uses multiple devices streaming all day bout 5 total devices going through different streams, been doing it for bout a year. I was thinking bout setting it up as a record label and run it like that. Please advise.

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