Megaupload has been shut down.

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it is end of liberty on internet. now you will see how will change internet. Someting strange...
 
interesting question.. is he smart or is he dumb ?

he definately is smart cos he just takes action and makes millions.. dumb he is, cos he always gets caught and never keeps the money for long.

at least this time he lived quite a few years a nice life...

dumb again, it was to move to new zealand cos that caught interest and i suppose this led to his arrest... if he would have stayed in hong kong he would still be a free man.

but he is still a great example of an enterpreneur cos while others prefer to read forums all day, while for others always somethn is missing before they can taker action and get rich, kimble just made it happen!

i respect that!

and even tho i dont like him from the time he sold bluebox secrets to the german media , i dont want the US government to imprison him for 20 years now what they will probably do to scare off other filesharing site owners ....

so...

FREE KIMBLE !
 
You are right.

People that have not read the indictment will talk a bunch of nonsense and compare Megaupload with other sites.

If they would just read the indictment, they would see how megaupload was in the business of providing pirated content by helping providing storage for it and NOT taking it down even when sent C&D letters.

And they discussed all this thru emails.

Many people have read this indictment and see that this is completely bogus. This isnt something ordinary, this is SOPA/PIPA sneaking in on the internet. Thats why Anon is fighting back, thats why so many people are outraged. This isnt just some regular thing that always happens. This was a well planned sting that targeted a share site. Because they say there were emails intercepted saying incriminating things makes the site Illegal? This is SOPA/PIPA in action and people gotta wake up!
 
and you know us Americans.... if you do not comply.... we will find weapons of mass destruction in NZ... and then you know how that turned out for that last country....

That turned out to be massively destructive.
 
That is what I find hard to believe.

42 Million profit in 2010.

That much money from a file sharing site.

The money had to come from other sources.

Sure! They just did csing a poker/casino site.
Did you never see the popup on the download-site?
If you had been looking in the third party cookies,
you would have found the affiliate one.

Do the calc! Millions of users and you stuff them with your cookies :D

Man that's cool blackhat lifestyle! I like that idea! My respect!

I think that's the point why they bring out the money laundring - because
of the cash out for the poker affiliate money. Stupid investigators!

Or stupid us politicians!?

I would bet, that planing megabox is the real reason!

Mega?s competing music venture is/was called Megabox, a site that would soon allow artists to sell their creations directly to consumers. And unlike the traditional record deals where artists get only a fraction of the revenue, with Megabox the musicians would get to keep 90% of earnings.
 
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You cant really justify the actions of MU, and they got screwed by their own emails, bragging, and not following takedowns. Its also very clear that they were fully in the know about their sharing of copyright material.

Yes, they did. They just got too comfortable doing it.

What grinds my gears is that copyright should be (and actually is) a civil issue which is followed up with lawyers as opposed to police and thugs with guns. The conspiracy, racketeering, and money laundering charges are fluff added on to make it seem much worse than it is. Its not that these guys were white and didn't deserve to be closed down, its more that the government and foreign governments are complicit in acting as the MAFIAAs enforcers.

In the US, it is a civil matter. It becomes a criminal when a certain threshold is passed. When the money is past a certain amount.


The internet is changing, and as usual the US is taking the first step.
It seems extreme what they did to Megaupload, but think about it.

Megaupload was not just a file sharing site.

It was a massive entity for storing and distributing pirated content.
Their business model was built around pirated content.
They plain out siphoned videos from youtube. They wanted to have a one-to-one video library with youtube.
Their server costs per year were into the millions....
Of course they had millions of subscribers.... because they were the netflix of pirated content.


Copyright infringement is a civil matter for the most part.
That is why it is not working.
If you find someone that is selling your pirated software...
and you sue them....
Most of these people will say... sue me because I do not have any money.
And they are right.
So the law suit costs the content owner money and nothing is resolved.
That makes it easy to keep on using pirated material and distributing it.

That is the reason that now the US is taking drastic measures.

Stopping piracy with prison works.
Piracy in large scale operations are practically non-existent in the US.
You deal in pirated goods..... you go to prison.
That stops 99% of the people.
 
Many people have read this indictment and see that this is completely bogus. This isnt something ordinary, this is SOPA/PIPA sneaking in on the internet. Thats why Anon is fighting back, thats why so many people are outraged. This isnt just some regular thing that always happens. This was a well planned sting that targeted a share site. Because they say there were emails intercepted saying incriminating things makes the site Illegal? This is SOPA/PIPA in action and people gotta wake up!


No, this is not something ordinary.
and YES, this was something well planned.
That is the way the Federal Government of the US works.
They track you, investigate you... and wait till they have enough to bust you.
That is exactly what happened here.
This investigation had been years in the making.... it has nothing to do with SOPA.



Are you still wondering if the site was illegal?
Really. Come on.... we all know that illegal content was their middle name.

Don't believe me...
check their backlinks...
90% is to illegal content.
 
Stopping piracy with prison works.
Piracy in large scale operations are practically non-existent in the US.
You deal in pirated goods..... you go to prison.
That stops 99% of the people.

Do you realize what you are saying? What happened to MU can happen to over 50% of site on the internet based on that logic. Just twist a couple of words you just said here and there then bingo, they can apply this to all sites. Seems like some of us dont mind the internet being controlled. Do you not want a free internet? Do you support SOPA/PIPA?
 
You cant really justify the actions of MU, and they got screwed by their own emails, bragging, and not following takedowns. Its also very clear that they were fully in the know about their sharing of copyright material.

Maybe im unaware but I thought they followed through with all dmca takdown requests? And what were their emails/braggings about?
 
Stopping piracy with prison works.
Piracy in large scale operations are practically non-existent in the US.
You deal in pirated goods..... you go to prison.
That stops 99% of the people.

That's your opinion! This has to be proven.

My one is different.

If you watch the increasing pirate party members in europe, you
see that the majority wants to share. And they want that the artists
get paid. But they don't want that a minority of big companies
and their shareholders are the only ones who will gain the money.

Remember Colonel Parker, who began to milk a star through contracts.
 
I know, that still doesn't make it right to raid a company, imprison the founder, even the employees!! and make a racketeering and conspiracy case out of it to set an example.


You better get use to it.
That is what is coming.... whether SOPA passes or not.

If you deal with pirated content.... you will get screwed sooner or later.

Fuck copyright, really... It's outdated and if the rights owners were smart they could make much more money by letting people access their content for free and share it.

If you really agree with this statement.... then you go ahead and create the content... and share it for free....
Let' see how many millions you will go into debt... before you realize this does not work.


P.S: And swizz beatz was/is the CEO, but not named in the indictment ? No wonder I guess, since Universal makes money with him?
But on the other hand even the head programmer gets arrested Oo

Because swizz beatz is a dumbazz when it comes to computers. He had no idea nor had any involvement to what was going on.
They partnered with him to have a legitimate face for megaupload.


P.S: And these "estimates" are just silly, 500 million+ damage? I mean seriously, 1 download === 1 less dvd/cd whatever sale... not really.
Plus a lot of the content on Megaupload was legal, so normally they could not simply have them forfeit all of their property... In a normal world at least

Man... it is like when you deal drugs. When they bust you... they take everything away. End of story.
You do not want everything taken away---- then do not deal drugs.

You do not want all your servers taken away---- then do not deal with pirated content.


The estimates are not silly. 500 million is not because 500 million downloads--- there were more than 500 million downloads.
Their server costs were in the millions per year.... do definitely the downloads were way more than 500 million.
500 million comes from mathematical extrapolation.
It is as accurate as you can get.

you can not say.... well most of those downloaders would not have bought the movie.... so let's not count those.... come one... let's be reasonable.
 
The issue here goes beyond MU and this current action on behalf of the media giants.

People are outraged because they dont want America taking the lead on something that belongs to all humankind, they neither trust nor consider the US government to act in the peoples best interests. This view is rapidly becoming universal outside of the US. Indeed, we saw this week that the brightest and best that America has to offer also dont want hamfisted action taken by their government on their behalf.

Actions like these only serve to strengthen the case that business and corporate citizens are more important than balanced laws and human beings.

So while the owners of MU clearly needed to be shut down, this in my opinion was not the way to go about it, I expect it will be counter productive in the longer term, and see US influence further eroded.
 
It's not censorship, but just justice.

90% of files on MegaUpload was cracked softwares, MP3, films, ...
MegaUpload was shutdown, it's justice.

I don't see where is the problem...

Beny
 
You better get use to it.


The estimates are not silly. 500 million is not because 500 million downloads--- there were more than 500 million downloads.
Their server costs were in the millions per year.... do definitely the downloads were way more than 500 million.
500 million comes from mathematical extrapolation.
It is as accurate as you can get.

you can not say.... well most of those downloaders would not have bought the movie.... so let's not count those.... come one... let's be reasonable.

.... so liek show me ur .... accurate...
mathematical Xtraploation........
please.... cuz i'd liek 2 taek a
look.... plzzzzzz
 
Are you still wondering if the site was illegal?
Really. Come on.... we all know that illegal content was their middle name.

Don't believe me...
check their backlinks...
90% is to illegal content.

Hehe,... I'm just wondering: Is this blackhatworld.com?
We are talking about music and movie sharing and not
about cc or other freakin russian internet fraud.

Where's one of your paychecks from V1? Tell us :D

BTW: Nice video how crazy got the companies & their lawyers
about copyright (DO NOT SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY IN PUBLIC PLACES etc.):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBupUkQsTw
 
Hehe,... I'm just wondering: Is this blackhatworld.com?
We are talking about music and movie sharing and not
about cc or other freakin russian internet fraud.

Where's one of your paychecks from V1? Tell us :D

I guess you have me figured all wrong.

none of my sites have pirated content on them.

100% legit bro.

that is why I am not worried.
I knew this was coming.
I did not want to invest time and money on something that was not going to last.

so... I will state it again.
all my sites are 100% legit.
 
Guy's they are being shut down because they basically encouraged people to upload copyright files onto their servers. It is why Rapidshare stopped paying out revenue to their uploaders. This has been coming for a long time. File Hosts are ok, but they will literally have to show they are doing everything they can to minimize the amount of copyright material on their servers.

Megaupload got caught actively encouraging people to upload illicit content. Which you know was pretty much just stupid.
 
The problem is that in matters like this - there is creep. What starts out tasked for one function rapidly becomes the defacto swiss army knife.

This is always an issue with bad legislation approved by lazy politicians in receipt of 'donations'. One need only look at the banking failures recently to see the massive effect ill thought out lawmaking can have.
 
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