Man I really hate people

Ha-ha Tygrus, thanks for posting this. Just yesterday, my 17 yr old daughter and I were discussing these same issues.

I really don't think you are imagining things at all. Because if you are, then I am and my daughter is too.

Yesterday at the library she decided to use the outside book drop to allow other patrons to use the inside entrance drop (she is an avid reader and had a lot of books to return). She was trying to think of other users. Do you know what she got in return?

Some dumbass with 2 books, waiting to turn those books in and totally crowding her in an effort to hurry her up.

Same thing at the grocery store. I use self check out lanes because it never fails when I use another checker lane- they are either switching shifts/tills or I get an elderly individual that likes to talk alot, or I get someone that has to write a check or I get someone in training. Just my luck-so I try to avoid those problems.

Mind you, there is a protocol at self checkout- you are supposed to stand back and wait for your turn. This dumbass is literally standing at the front of my cart, trying to get me to hurry. I wanted to punch her in the throat (and I am female).

Here's another example: My 2 oldest daughters refuse to go to public school. They are homeschooled instead. Do you know why they don't go to public school?

I quote "Mom, the kids are rude, disrespectful to the teacher and I absolutely can't stand it."

Another example: Homeschooling requires state testing. So I take my daughter to a high school where they administer the test. I am waiting in the library and students are streaming in using all types of profanity. Hey, I cuss like a sailor myself sometimes. But I had my 5 year old daughter with me and she heard that crap. The librarian on duty did nothing. I about blew a gaskit.

Anyway, I just wanted to chime in and tell you- I totally get where you are coming from and it is not your imagination. :)
 
howbout if you knew that the kid in the drive-thru (the line that cracked me up btw:D) lost his mother last month or his father was diagnosed with cancer last week..

Man i wish that was the case because I would surely give exception for that, however, not everyone I come across can be losing a mother to cancer. Some people are being obnoxious just to be obnoxious or they are oblivious to the world or they think they number one in the world and you should too.

I know that kid gets a lot of rude people come through the drive through everyday too so its not just him. Its on both sides.
 
And greywolf, its not the fact the kid at the drive thru didn't give me a straw or something, its more the fact he doesn't know how to say hello and be basically friendly. I know its hard to care about a job like that but even in my darkest days in the cube farm I manged a friendly good morning and good night to most people.
Yeah, I understood that. It's all part of the same thing. It's a lack of caring.

There was a time in which people had a sense of honor in doing a job well. It didn't matter if you were a janitor or the ceo of a company. If you were going to do a job, then you could take pride in the fact you were doing it to the best of your ability. Now people seem to have the feeling that some jobs are beneath them and they're just biding their time until something better comes along. Well the job very well may be beneath them, but if your not will to do the job well then you should just not take it at all.

Basically though it all boils down to what I said in my earlier post regarding etiquette. The whole point of etiquette and other social niceties is to allow large groups of strangers to get along without the feelings you described in your original post.

If money is the fuel that makes society function, then etiquette is the oil that reduces the friction.
 
Maybe I should be looking for that log cabin in Montana.

I live in MT and dont you dare think about bringing that kind of attitude here, you wont like it one bit.
 
The exterior is reflect of the interior.

Once i was like that,i just didn't like anyone,for me most of the humans are animals controled by the instincts,but with experiencie i learned the beatiful of the difference,if you make peace with yourself,everithing will to.

I recommend that you watch: Pleasantville
 
"maybe i have become jaded"

rofl. yes you have. and it's not a good thing. get off your high horse, k thnx.
 
Dealing with people is one of main reasons I got out of my other job, and into IM.

I spend more time talking with BHW'rs than anyone else....and I personally wouldn't have it any other way right now.
 
interesting thread

I've been there before

A few weeks back I was in the same mood.

Realized that it was because I had some completely unrelated personal conflicts that were bugging me (but didn't realize), and in a way getting pissed off about other people almost as a way of procrastination.

Now that I've figured the conflict out, life's back to good. Haven't changed my opinion about the drive thru jersey shore people (same opinion as yours), but it was kind of like being able to turn the radio knob down to a dull background noise.
 
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One might have learned his mother is suffering from cancer, another might have just broken up with his gfriend, another might have just had an argument with her father and the list is endless.

My point is all of us go through life with what we name 'problems'. To me there is no such thing as problems. This is just a mental label the society has put around things that challenge us. 'Problems' can drive us back or forth in life. But not them per se. Rather the way we deal with them and the meaning we give to them.

Coming again to the drive-thru kid example, see how you can easily reframe the situation and therefore the way you're feeling about this just by asking and really take the time to answering these questions: (this applies to anybody you feel this way about)

1) What else can this mean?
2) I don't like this f*u*c*k*i*n*g kid but if I had to like him for just one minute, what would I like about him?
3) Has there been a time in my life that I acted like this kid to others? What made me be such a jerk? Would I forgive myself in hindsight for having been and acted like that?
4) What are the five things that I am mostly grateful in my life about RIGHT NOW?
I was walking out of a convenience store the other day. I noticed the store's clean up guy was carrying something and patiently waiting for someone to move out of his way. He didn't interupt the guy at all, didn't try to rush him along or anything. He just kind of stood off out of the way and waited until the guy and his friend was done with his conversation. Then when it seemed like the guy was done with his conversation, the worker proceeded to continue to where he needed to go and politely said "excuse me" as he was going by to make sure he wasn't crowding anyone.

Upon hearing "excuse me" the guy who had been in the way, said what the hell do you want. The employee said I just need to get through here to put this stuff away. In spite of this, the guys told him he could just wait because "you're just an idiot that works here, and I'm a paying customer".

Now the guy I'm talking about was semi blocking the main entrance to the store, and other customers were having to squeeze around them as well. The conversation he was having with his friend was loud enough you could tell he was just shooting the shit with someone. Throughout the whole incident the worker kept his cool and remained really polite.

So lets apply your list to that situation.
1) What else can this mean?
Only thing I can think of is the guy was a dick! If somehow the guy had been in the right it might not have been quite so bad, but it was just obnoxiously rude self-centered behavior that was out of line. Even if his gfriend just dumped him or someone he knows is dying of cancer, it still doesn't excuse that type of behaviour.
2) I don't like this f*u*c*k*i*n*g guy but if I had to like him for just one minute, what would I like about him?Honestly since I have nothing else to base my opinion on, I can't think of a thing that I would like about him. If I saw someone I knew and already did like, that situation would have lowered my opinion of them.
3) Has there been a time in my life that I acted like this kid to others? What made me be such a jerk? Would I forgive myself in hindsight for having been and acted like that?
To be totally honest, No I've never acted like that. I was taught as a young child that behaviour like that is unacceptable. I can definately be opinionated, but if I do see someone doing something out of line and point it out to them, I still try to maintain a little respect.
4) What are the five things that I am mostly grateful in my life about RIGHT NOW?
Well I can definately think of 5 things I'm grateful for, but what does that have to do with whether some people are dicks?

I think part of the reason for the tygrus's attitude in the original post is because that self-centered attitude he's seeing has gotten so prevalent, it gets tiring having to deal with it everyday. Common courtesies are becoming much less common. Please, excuse me, thank you, you're welcome, after you sir (or ma'am), can I help you, etc. they're so easy to say but so many people don't. As those courtesies are becoming less used, so are the ideas behind them. Rudeness seems to be winning out over politeness, and as it does society is becoming much more annoying for those that do try to be polite among strangers.
 
Get a life man. Your post is an obvious example of somebody who doesn't have the balls to take responsibility for his life. Blaming is easy. Sorry man but it's true...
Get a life bro, this is serious.

Tygrus, im going to have to agree with you on this. getting tired of how stupid people can really be. i mean, there is a prime example right here.

people are freaking retards and they can change it, they just choose not to see past the reality of life and truth.

so, for the time, im in the same boat. well, my own boat but hypothetically speaking.
 
This was one of the best lounge reads in awhile lol. While it's easy to say the common denominator is the OP, I totally agree with you tygrus that a lot of it probably stems from the nature of society nowadays and the different times we grew up in being from a "slightly" older generation. It seems like genuine decently and etiquette are becoming more rare by the day.

My personal pet-peeve is unoriginal thinking and the "follow what everyone else is doing" mentality of todays society. A perfect example coming right from your OP, "So American Idol is popular so let's just rip it off and create the exact same show but for dancing. We'll call it "Dancing with the Stars" etc etc.

Or the music industry... "We suck as songwriters and can't write an original tune to save our lives so being the puppets that we are, we'll just sample other people's popular songs from the past and make it a #1 hit for the kids who are too young to know any better...that'll get us on MTV Cribs yo, with our pimped out Bentley yo".

Such BS, so I relate with every word you said.
 
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My personal pet-peeve is unoriginal thinking and the "follow what everyone else is doing" mentality of todays society. A perfect example coming right from your OP, "So American Idol is popular so let's just rip it off and create the exact same show but for dancing. We'll call it "Dancing with the Stars" etc etc.
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Kind of a different topic, but I agree with you on this too. The even bigger example is crime shows. Law&Order, CSI, NCIS it's bad enough they pretty much copied each other but they had to take it another step. They had to start cranking out multiple versions of each show. I actually like the shows, but damn... enough is enough.

Talk about lack of originality. The TV networks have taken unoriginal thinking to a whole new level. LOL
 
Maybe its consumerism and entertainment run rampant and everyone thinks they are entitled to be treated like a star, therefore they can treat everyone else like shit. I learned to always give respect until its not being reciprocated. Even now I won't raise my voice or swear in front of my parents.


I mean if you need any better example of how bad its become, just go on a plane. It used to be a distinguished experience 50 years agio and people wore suits. Now, its just loud mouth obese retards with too much carry on baggage.
 
sometimes I think we just live in a ruder and more self centered world and that gets to me.

Dude! this world Itself is Rare! Take advantage Of whats given to you You are Rare! Don't listen or react to what ANYONE says! If they Judge you Don't let it get to you man! It'll only screw your life up more and make THEM feel good about themselves And later on They'll turn into someone who judges to much and loses everything!! :) remember you are Rare!

P.S I'm actually writing a Song Called "Rare" Will be huge one day ;) but stay strong brotha
 
Kind of a different topic, but I agree with you on this too. The even bigger example is crime shows. Law&Order, CSI, NCIS it's bad enough they pretty much copied each other but they had to take it another step. They had to start cranking out multiple versions of each show. I actually like the shows, but damn... enough is enough.

Talk about lack of originality. The TV networks have taken unoriginal thinking to a whole new level. LOL


There you go, yet another perfect example. ;)

Without original thinking we are doomed to stagnate as a society. I hate to think of what my kids and their own children are going to face in the coming generations considering what a copycat generation this has become.
 
@BHMillionaire - come on now thats stretching it a little in your last post.

1) Whatever happened in his past, he's not a helpless 4yo being abused now. He looked to be at least in his mid 20s, definately old enough to think for himself. As judges like to point out, while its sad that things might have happened in someones life, at some point they have to take responsibility for their own actions.

2) Admire his shoes while ignoring his rudeness? Are you serious?
If you really think that watching someone be that disrespectful toward another is somehow worthy of admiration for his boldness, then you yourself are part of the problem that tygrus brought up. I'm sure that isn't really the case, I think you were just fishing for a way to demonstrate your point.

3) You're right everyone has been there, but not everyone acts on it. That's what makes us different than animals. It's just "human nature", is the type of excuse you hear in abuse cases on divorce court. That argument just doesn't hold water, we're still responsible for the choices we make.

4) Those 5 things you listed are all great. Definately things to be thankful for. Not a single one of them makes it ok for people to have the level of disrespect and type of behaviour I described between the store customer and the worker.

BTW, that wasn't a made up example I wrote about either. It happened yesterday when I was paying for my gas at a Mobile station, and it was actually even worse than I described. The worker is a pretty big guy too and really kept his cool throughout the whole encounter. Never once even said a bad word to the guy, and stayed polite the whole time. The customer wasn't small himself but I think he was probably still pretty lucky that the employee just let it go.

I think I do understand what your saying to tygrus. It seems your point is just don't let it get to you. Your list of thing to think about is an exercise in how to do that. But that doesn't mean you need to be oblivious to the reality. Making excuses for rude behaviour is pretty much the main reason it's become so prevalent. The things your brought up about people having a bad day, or getting dumped, or serious family illness, or traumatic childhood might be valid explanations for why people do things like that. That just explains the behaviour, it doesn't excuse it.

In tygrus's original post he's just saying he hates having to deal with it. He certainly isn't going to be able to change it, but that doesn't mean he should just ignore it. He probably just saw something like I brought up about the store clerk. Maybe not so blatent a thing as that, but enough of an issue he felt like venting about it a little. I'm sure he's capable of not letting rude people ruin his day. I imagine he deals with things just fine in his daily life.
 
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