Making Money with Ad & Traffic Arbitrage

Hi, I have read your previous thread about Traffic Arbitrage, thanks for sharing this interesting method,
I want to get the ebook you mentioned, how can I do so?
 
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herautama said:
Hi, I have read your previous thread about Traffic Arbitrage, thanks for sharing this interesting method,
I want to get the ebook you mentioned, how can I do so?
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Glad you liked it, you can get free eBook from the site.
 
herautama said:
Umm...could you please drop me the link? It's kinda weird, I can find your webinar link but can't find the ebook link
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You kidding right? The link has mentioned on every page of this thread, probably not even once in big and bright clickable letters.

Thanks
 
If you own the traffimngr site could you turn facebook likejacker off it's pretty annoying.
 
This is a really nice strategy.
Are you not concerned that it might not last forever?
I did another type of arbitrage a couple of years ago, but it quickly faded.
 
MacRichard said:
If you own the traffimngr site could you turn facebook likejacker off it's pretty annoying.
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is it more annoying than condoms you rubbing on your face on your user pic? I bet not!
 
Infinitium said:
This is a really nice strategy.
Are you not concerned that it might not last forever?
I did another type of arbitrage a couple of years ago, but it quickly faded.
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It won't last forever, but it will last till the Earth, humanity and money exist.
This is not a particular strategy, but a proper business that has many strategies, it's not possible for it to get faded.
 
se900se said:
My https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/making-money-with-ad-traffic-arbitrage-700-to-100k.844018/ about Traffic Arbitrage was closed (I asked someone to provide email, which is against forum rules), but I still receive a bunch of messages from BHW users about my thread and asking questions about their sites and conducting business.

Therefore I decided to open this thread to continue answering your questions publicly as it's easier, better and will help more people rather than do it in private via PM.

Here you can ask questions about traffic arbitrage, your sites, and anything related to the topic. I am not an expert (even though some people call me that), but I reached success in this business and I would be happy to share my experience with you by answering questions.
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1. I'm thinking of going with fb advertising as it will be good for long term(increased page likes) and also the niches would work really well there..
There is a ben malol course here on bhw for fb advertising, I think tht this course may give me enough knowledge to start this venture.

Would you please recommend some networksthat would be cheaper than fb ads?

2. I am thinking of putting CPA instead of adsense for monetizing these sites as I think they would be bring more money, I will also put up native ad networks on the site and infolinks, AdRecover also.

Have you used CPA on your sites?

Adsense seems scary and most networks won't pay within 1 week (maybe a relationship wid affiliate manager would increase my chance of getting weekly payments)

Would you please recommend any other way to monetize the sites?

3. Would you recommend a course for me to look at for learning ad arbitage??

4. Have you considered stepping into adult niche as I have heard advertising on TrafficJunky is very cheap..

Thank you so much brother! Maximum respect :)
 
1. I'm thinking of going with fb advertising as it will be good for long term(increased page likes) and also the niches would work really well there..
There is a ben malol course here on bhw for fb advertising, I think tht this course may give me enough knowledge to start this venture.

Would you please recommend some networksthat would be cheaper than fb ads?

- FB traffic is good, however it takes some skills to make it work on your site. I am not familiar with FB courses, but I am sure there're useful ones!
I am not sure what traffic can be cheaper than from FB ads, cheap price does not guarantee success, so look for performance not just how cheap traffic is.

2. I am thinking of putting CPA instead of adsense for monetizing these sites as I think they would be bring more money, I will also put up native ad networks on the site and infolinks, AdRecover also.

Have you used CPA on your sites?

- I do not work with CPA

Adsense seems scary and most networks won't pay within 1 week (maybe a relationship wid affiliate manager would increase my chance of getting weekly payments)

- Most network won't even pay on NET30, so get ready to wait and plan your strategy accordingly.

Would you please recommend any other way to monetize the sites?

- Direct ads, emails, sponsored materials, promotions - there's a number of ways.

3. Would you recommend a course for me to look at for learning ad arbitrage??

- There's only one course that I know of and I have mentioned it in our first conversation

4. Have you considered stepping into adult niche as I have heard advertising on TrafficJunky is very cheap..

- Nah, I am fine outside adult niche :)

Thank you so much brother! Maximum respect :)
 
se900se said:
1. I'm thinking of going with fb advertising as it will be good for long term(increased page likes) and also the niches would work really well there..
There is a ben malol course here on bhw for fb advertising, I think tht this course may give me enough knowledge to start this venture.

Would you please recommend some networksthat would be cheaper than fb ads?

- FB traffic is good, however it takes some skills to make it work on your site. I am not familiar with FB courses, but I am sure there're useful ones!
I am not sure what traffic can be cheaper than from FB ads, cheap price does not guarantee success, so look for performance not just how cheap traffic is.

2. I am thinking of putting CPA instead of adsense for monetizing these sites as I think they would be bring more money, I will also put up native ad networks on the site and infolinks, AdRecover also.

Have you used CPA on your sites?

- I do not work with CPA

Adsense seems scary and most networks won't pay within 1 week (maybe a relationship wid affiliate manager would increase my chance of getting weekly payments)

- Most network won't even pay on NET30, so get ready to wait and plan your strategy accordingly.

Would you please recommend any other way to monetize the sites?

- Direct ads, emails, sponsored materials, promotions - there's a number of ways.

3. Would you recommend a course for me to look at for learning ad arbitrage??

- There's only one course that I know of and I have mentioned it in our first conversation

4. Have you considered stepping into adult niche as I have heard advertising on TrafficJunky is very cheap..

- Nah, I am fine outside adult niche :)

Thank you so much brother! Maximum respect :)
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Which ad networks gave you max ROI and please tell me more about the course
 
CuriousMe :) said:
Which ad networks gave you max ROI and please tell me more about the course
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I prefer not to mention networks as each network performs differently on each site and if I say that network X works great for me it doesn't mean that same network will work good for you. However, if your question is what are legit networks and networks that pay well and not scamming - I suggest looking towards big and well known networks first, e.g. OutBrain, Media.net etc. AdSense - is a lottery.
 
CuriousMe :) said:
And, from where did you purchase traffic? Also do you have any experience with skylikes??
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Traffic source depends on specific site - e.g. women related niche advertised on the women related ad network. Buy traffic from only big & legit networks, if you never heard about this network - its suspicious, getting traffic without setting up and seeing your ads - suspicious, extremely cheap traffic - suspicious, everything that doesn't feels right or feels too good won't give a good result.

The idea is not buy cheapest traffic, I don't mind to pay for traffic - whatever, the return from this traffic is what is important.

I think Skylikes are great guys, we spoke bunch of times, however I am not buying traffic from them, so cannot comment on own experience.
 
bigg_capp said:
Thanks for the reply. It's 98% US traffic. I earn basically in total from all my ads, about $8.00 per 1000 views, therefore slightly less then a penny gets me even and .0079 gets me profitable. I was able to get a ton of stories on facebook even at $.004 but those days are long gone....maybe. I will try again in a few weeks.

But besides SEO and free traffic, I don't think there is any place to buy traffic that cheap. My other alternative would be to index my stories more and get 3 or 4 pageviews per visit. Currently I'm averaging about 2.

-Capp
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Viniyois said:
When you can't go any lower with cpc, then you gotta make more with what you get. You can do better than $8 with US traffic. Try different companies, different methods. It's all about testing. Break down your article to pages so you get max amount of impressions/ad exposure.

Go aggressive with ads. You can't make your website look nice and expect profit. You want your visitors to click, not feel good :)
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Which ad networks do yiu use to monetize that traffic? I have heard exponential is pretty good..
 
Interesting thread. I've got a few questions:
1)What's the minimum number of articles that you'd recommend having on a website before sending traffic to it?
2)Beside Facebook ads, what other traffic sources would you recommend?
3)When using Facebook ads, what's a realistic average CPC to aim for? I've heard $0.05, which would amount to $50 per 1000 clicks. It seems like it would be hard to break even when paying that much for traffic.
4)What's a realistic CPM rate to aim for when starting out?
 
locobastard said:
Interesting thread. I've got a few questions:
1)What's the minimum number of articles that you'd recommend having on a website before sending traffic to it?
2)Beside Facebook ads, what other traffic sources would you recommend?
3)When using Facebook ads, what's a realistic average CPC to aim for? I've heard $0.05, which would amount to $50 per 1000 clicks. It seems like it would be hard to break even when paying that much for traffic.
4)What's a realistic CPM rate to aim for when starting out?
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Thanks for your message!

1) I suggest to start with at least 30 articles, however the more - the better.

2) I recommend on buying traffic from same network that you are going to monetize with. So if you plan to monetize with OutBrain - you can buy traffic from outbrain too.

3) My best result was 1-2 cents, but on average around 5 cents, I try to aim for 3. A lot depend on your campaign and the content where you send traffic.

4) Delends, a lot of network will give you low rate at the beginning if they don’t know anything about your site and what expect from your traffic. So I suggest to work on the site a lot so it give right impression to get a decent rate. In terms of numbers it can be $0.20 CPM and up.
 
se900se said:
Thanks for your message!

1) I suggest to start with at least 30 articles, however the more - the better.

2) I recommend on buying traffic from same network that you are going to monetize with. So if you plan to monetize with OutBrain - you can buy traffic from outbrain too.

3) My best result was 1-2 cents, but on average around 5 cents, I try to aim for 3. A lot depend on your campaign and the content where you send traffic.

4) Delends, a lot of network will give you low rate at the beginning if they don’t know anything about your site and what expect from your traffic. So I suggest to work on the site a lot so it give right impression to get a decent rate. In terms of numbers it can be $0.20 CPM and up.
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Thank you for answering my questions. If you don't mind, I have a few more:

1)Does OutBrain get around the same average CPC as Facebook?

2)How would a person starting out at $0.20 CPM break even, let alone make a profit? With an average CPC of $0.05, they'd basically be spending $50 to make $0.20. To break even using 1 CPM ad per page, each one of those 1000 visitors would have to visit 250 pages. If 10 CPM ads were on each page, each of those 1000 visitors would have to visit 25 pages, which is still unlikely. There must be something I'm missing.
 
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locobastard said:
Thank you for answering my questions. If you don't mind, I have a few more:

1)Does OutBrain get around the same average CPC as Facebook?

2)How would a person starting out at $0.20 CPM break even, let alone make a profit? With an average CPC of $0.05, they'd basically be spending $50 to make $0.20. To break even using 1 CPM ad per page, each one of those 1000 visitors would have to visit 250 pages. If 10 CPM ads were on each page, each of those 1000 visitors would have to visit 25 pages, which is still unlikely. There must be something I'm missing.
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1) outbrain is more expensive than FB, especially if you don’t know how to optimize campaigns, but those are completely different types of traffic

2) You’re not limited to single ad unit on the page, so if you have $0.20 unit - you can use few units, different ad types etc. There’s a huge variety of advertising media you can use to get desired CPM rate.

If you buy traffic at $0.05 ($50 per 1000 users) and your CPM is $10, this means that by browsing 5 pages per user you will break even. 1000x5=5,000 pageviews, $10x5k= $50.

The idea is to get traffic that not just lands to the site and bounces, but actually likes the content.

Traffic arbitrage requires planning, strategy and understanding.
 
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