Okay folks, here's the nitty gritty. Link Wheels, Link pushing, obviously they work right? That's why it's promoted so hard. I'm going to drop a big "what if" on you. More so than ever, the big G is being a pain. I have noticed that web 2.0 properties are not getting indexed at all. I mean 90% of your properties will go unnoticed. The typical advice is bookmark, turn your links into a RSS feed and submit it to a RSS aggregator and along with it all, ping it, everytime and all the time. Even with all that you probably have noticed that your web 2.0 properties and such are not getting indexed. With that being it, what do you do? People say just pay attention to your serp and not the tools, if that was really it, then why would people bother making tools, or buying tools? If you're feeling the same pain let me hear your story, and maybe some of the senior members will step in and give us some real advice and not your typical strategy that you've already tried that clearly isn't working.