Let's talk CTR tools. CTR Booster vs Viper SEO Tools/The Kraken

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Local terms then?
Yes, only local terms. I also run a huge network of spam sites but my CTR tests with them did not produce any results. Only local shows movement.

Generally with proper CTR I see nodes changing in local the same hour I'm running, then they slowly move back, over time they all switch permanently.

Did you create the bot on your own?

I hired a coder who was familiar with this kind of stuff, I do not use anything related to selenium. I do not have rights to sell the bot which is why it's not in the market place.

I have considered setting up a white label service providing this but pricing has been an issue.

I have no idea why I never thought of that!

ML + VAs

What proxies were you using?

But god damn man. I've been thinking of a way to send more referral traffic via social media links, yelp, etc etc. Been staring me right in the face every time I leave a review for a client with ML.

I had my own home built proxy network using android phones until recently when I've started buying mobile proxies on the market. As long as they are rotating you don't need a ton.

In my experience CTR moves results same hour, then they slowly move back and it takes around 6 weeks to see jumps.

ML is really great for anything not automated. If you are using ML for CTR only use desktop mode as Google seems to do a decent job identifying the mobile stuff as fake.
 
You can start with any price and adjust it gradually according to market demands.

I talked with a GMB spammer who needed some work but I couldn't get the price to work. Maybe I'll throw something up and find a better way to automate this stuff. I've never been to sure on how much demand there is for a service like this.
 
Yes, only local terms. I also run a huge network of spam sites but my CTR tests with them did not produce any results. Only local shows movement.

Generally with proper CTR I see nodes changing in local the same hour I'm running, then they slowly move back, over time they all switch permanently.

Thanks for your reply. Interesting stuff. I have ran so many tests with regular organic and only one tool back in the day worked for a short time. I gave up trying to rank in regular organic but one day I may try some local stuff.
 
Thanks for your reply. Interesting stuff. I have ran so many tests with regular organic and only one tool back in the day worked for a short time. I gave up trying to rank in regular organic but one day I may try some local stuff.

To clarify by local I mean GMB, google my business ranking algorithm is completely separate from normal organic results.
 
I talked with a GMB spammer who needed some work but I couldn't get the price to work. Maybe I'll throw something up and find a better way to automate this stuff. I've never been to sure on how much demand there is for a service like this.
Well, you can't be too sure about the level of the demand until you try to sell in small scale.
 
I don't understand why people focusing too much on CTR, when it's expensive and don't give results. I understand you should try, but for me, never makes any sense.

I think Google is SO SMART to figure out real traffic vs robot because there are a lot of footprints in the devices.

Anyway, I'm not saying anything against you, just giving my advice. Thanks for your post, because it really helps to know that CTR is not the way.
 
Google now patched up CTR booster making it irrelevant to rank you. It's the new update.
 
Your be better of programming a bot to do reviews on your gmb accounts.

I no google don't publish all reviews but there a winner to get indexed heigh local gmb.

Only a fort.

I never seen any post on my private gmb FB with ctr not worth the pain.

Real optimized accounts seem to work properly spot on.
(( loads of reviews.))
 
Google now patched up CTR booster making it irrelevant to rank you. It's the new update.
What exactly do you know?

I talked with a GMB spammer who needed some work but I couldn't get the price to work. Maybe I'll throw something up and find a better way to automate this stuff. I've never been to sure on how much demand there is for a service like this.

Could probably automate with Browser Automation Studio + ML ;)

BAS is super powerful and I've been meaning to dive into it. I know someone using it for Google reviews, do driving direction from phone emulators on a vps, and all kinds of wicked shit.
 
What exactly do you know?



Could probably automate with Browser Automation Studio + ML ;)

BAS is super powerful and I've been meaning to dive into it. I know someone using it for Google reviews, do driving direction from phone emulators on a vps, and all kinds of wicked shit.
CTR stops working for SEO. Completely. It's a waste now. That's for Google.

YouTube is detectable as CTR but im pretty sure it still works somehow
 
CTR stops working for SEO. Completely. It's a waste now. That's for Google.

YouTube is detectable as CTR but im pretty sure it still works somehow
What I'm saying is, you said their recent update patched something with CTRB. What exactly did Google patch? Chromium?

CTRB uses Chromium + 4g proxies. Not sure what there is to patch. Other than unnatural behavior patterns, I'm not seeing what they can detect.
 
Thanks for your reply. Interesting stuff. I have ran so many tests with regular organic and only one tool back in the day worked for a short time. I gave up trying to rank in regular organic but one day I may try some local stuff.

The results are impressive, if you ever get into GMB try it.

Well, you can't be too sure about the level of the demand until you try to sell in small scale.

Maybe I will do a soft release here. Need to ensure I can scale first though.

I don't understand why people focusing too much on CTR, when it's expensive and don't give results. I understand you should try, but for me, never makes any sense.

I think Google is SO SMART to figure out real traffic vs robot because there are a lot of footprints in the devices.

Anyway, I'm not saying anything against you, just giving my advice. Thanks for your post, because it really helps to know that CTR is not the way.

I can prove that it works when done correctly. You literally can see results within a couple of days using only CTR. Likewise once you pull it away most results go away.

A lot of tools just don't work in my experience, which is why I think people don't think it works. You are right, Google is super good at finding out what traffic is fake.

I'm about a week away from launching a cloud platform, keep an eye out in the marketplace I'll be creating a bst.

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Very interesting, are you using selenium?

Yes. That’s why current CTR manipulation only works for GMB.

Yes, that and YouTube. There's also one other area of Google that uses it too but it's not an algorithm a lot of people on here use.

Google now patched up CTR booster making it irrelevant to rank you. It's the new update.

Yes, easiest way to tell is the lack of results. I've argued with the new owner many times and he gets super defensive. They use selenium and claim they can hide all selenium drivers but I don't believe them. I am sure if I tried I could identify fingerprints from their software, Google can obviously tell.

Your be better of programming a bot to do reviews on your gmb accounts.

I no google don't publish all reviews but there a winner to get indexed heigh local gmb.

Only a fort.

I never seen any post on my private gmb FB with ctr not worth the pain.

Real optimized accounts seem to work properly spot on.
(( loads of reviews.))

I do reviews too but don't find that they do much. GMB CTR is always consistent for me, send me a PM to your FB group, I'd love to talk to you about the results I'm seeing. I'm not here to sell anything.

What exactly do you know?



Could probably automate with Browser Automation Studio + ML ;)

BAS is super powerful and I've been meaning to dive into it. I know someone using it for Google reviews, do driving direction from phone emulators on a vps, and all kinds of wicked shit.

BAS and ML would probably work, I moved away from ML but it definitely provided results. I also tried phone emulators but those leave fingerprints, I tried for a super long time doing rooted emulators but I could never get any results from it. I did have luck running rooted android phones to do CTR but again never had drives work.

There are some Chinese companies that have iPhone software with jailbroken phones that change iPhone identifiers with each restart of the phone, they use this to game amazon reviews. I could not find a way to get the software to run CTR though.

CTR stops working for SEO. Completely. It's a waste now. That's for Google.

YouTube is detectable as CTR but im pretty sure it still works somehow

Say that to all of the increases I get in GMB rankings then.

What I'm saying is, you said their recent update patched something with CTRB. What exactly did Google patch? Chromium?

CTRB uses Chromium + 4g proxies. Not sure what there is to patch. Other than unnatural behavior patterns, I'm not seeing what they can detect.

They didn't patch chromium, they caught selenium drivers and were able to identify the traffic. If you could just use Chromium and 4G proxies then it would be super easy, but what about all of the other fingerprints that Google can see from a browser?
 
There are some Chinese companies that have iPhone software with jailbroken phones that change iPhone identifiers with each restart of the phone, they use this to game amazon reviews. I could not find a way to get the software to run CTR though.
Man I've been looking for something like this for driving directions. You mind sharing?
 
Man I've been looking for something like this for driving directions. You mind sharing?
I don't have an app name or anything, I couldn't even get access. I'd suggest reaching out to any of the Chinese amazon guys.
 
Good morning BHW,

So I've been using CTR booster for a while now. For years. It's NEVER been a perfect tool and I've found myself dropping it and using other methods many times. Whether it was mass pages, a different tool, or running ads with manipulated search strings as the destination URL, or even utilizing SerpClix, I was continually dropping the tool due to being unsatisfied for multiple reasons.

It's honestly buggy as fuck.

Like currently, I'm running campaigns that a couple weeks ago were running just fine. Now all of a sudden the thing will do a search, see my result in the 3rd position for example, and just shut the browser down and start a new campaign. It's pretty annoying and definitely costing me more in resources to not get the results I need. After checking my daily searches EOD it's never completed the keyword campaigns for at least a couple weeks now, and I didn't have any issues a month ago....with the same campaigns. It makes 0 sense.

So i'm looking into something like Viper SEO Tools. However wondering if anyone here has tried it out. I don't want to run into similar issues as I am with CTR booster. Plus continually figuring out tools is becoming a serious time constraint.

Been looking at the creators channel on YouTube, Michael Bowes, and the guy really seems like he knows what he's talking about. His competitor is Agency Assassin. Viper SEO Tools is onyl $500 a month for 300 campaigns across all of the tools where as Agency Assassin is almost $4k. The newest tool I think is Kraken which is $500 a month. Its a hefty price tag, considering I was grand fathered in to CTR booster and don't pay anything. But Kraken includes all the proxies you need, VPS, and everything packaged into one monthly price.

I'm currently paying $200 a month to run CTR Booster. If I add more campaigns though that price will go up significantly being that Im using Turbo proxies and it only rotates every 30 minutes. For CTR you can safely run about 5 campaigns every 30 minutes, so you can safely run about 240 searches a day. You can see how that could get eaten up quickly when it comes to higher traffic entities.

Who else is really going hard with CTR here? I'm thinking Kraken is going to be the way to go but want to hear if anyone here is having continual success with CTR Booster or if they're running into similar issues and have found a work around.
Hi there! As you can see, i am the newby here. How can we actually monetize from tools like that? Thank you!
 
I can prove it works for GMB easily.

I can get results within a week or so, anyone wants to see just send me a listing.

I've never seen any results with normal search.
 
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