Let's talk about youtube botting.

Percipience

Percipience

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Which are the best bots available right now on the market?

I've tried Jarvee youtube module but didn't like it, it was way too slow and uberly expensive. Now, there is that new bot by the user @Herion, but I'm sure there are others bots out there.

I'm looking for a youtube bot that is using state-of-the-art techniques to stay undetected through youtube, so no browser based(headless/chrome engine/IE etc.) bot.

I'm sure there has to be some bright minds that are working on the next super youtube bot. Bonus points if it can also do youtube views, but if it can do all of the other youtube functions then that would suffice.
 
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you need to print special software. Nobody does what you say.
 
tubeboost said:
What do you need a bot for?
Bots can't create interesting content. If you post too many comments with links YT ban your account.
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YtSeoMonster said:
you need to print special software. Nobody does what you say.
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I'm not asking about creating interesting content, but why is there such a shortage of youtube bots when there are dozens and dozens for instagram. Is it because automating google/youtube is way out of the reach of many here, even those supposedly bot creators?

I'm trying to understand what is it that makes youtube automation so hard to do without using a browser to automate it instead of using simple http(s) requests.
 
Percipience said:
I'm not asking about creating interesting content, but why is there such a shortage of youtube bots when there are dozens and dozens for instagram. Is it because automating google/youtube is way out of the reach of many here, even those supposedly bot creators?

I'm trying to understand what is it that makes youtube automation so hard to do without using a browser to automate it instead of using simple http(s) requests.
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there are so much Instagram bots because everyone and their dog is doing Instagram following with CPA, very big market for devs to step into. There is a saying which can be heard on this forum quite often: 'the most money during the gold rush was made by those selling shovels'
 
Cewgg said:
there are so much Instagram bots because everyone and their dog is doing Instagram following with CPA, very big market for devs to step into. There is a saying which can be heard on this forum quite often: 'the most money during the gold rush was made by those selling shovels'
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Yeah exactly my point. Instagram has a huge market and so by that nature devs are going to jump into the idea of creating their own tools to sell.

But with that in mind, Youtube is a whole other beast by itself, I mean just the youtube views market is huge as well as outube likes, ranking, comments etc.

There are like 2 bots and one of them uses for sure a browser, while for Instagram bots there are tons of them out there that do not run on a browser. The market is flooded with Instagram bots and services.

We can't really say that Youtube isn't on the same scale as Instagram is, but comparing the amount of Youtube bots that are out there versus the Youtube market for botting makes 0 sense as to why isn't the blackhat market flooded with bot options.

Where are those smart individuals and those bot makers that can create bots? Automating Youtube couldn't be impossible.
 
The problem is the money.

Gaming the Instagram system doesn't really hurt Instagram. They still keep their money from ads they sell. They get paid no matter what.

Youtube is different. They split ad revenue with a channel that is bringing in views. So Youtube is more thorough in looking at the traffic that is responsible for showing the ads. Fake viewers can cause them to lose clients

So your software, running on a vps would use other proxy servers to actually "view" the video a certain amount of time, maybe hit the X to cancel the commercial and still continue to "view". It could also not just "watch" a single video, because people will search and then watch a couple more, etc. And it must never create a pattern. And it must know the location of the proxy servers it is using to know whether the traffic should be heavy (prime time) or very light (4 o'clock in the morning). And a dozen other things I cannot think of right now.

The Youtube bot must be smart.

Best regards,

The Eye
 
theeyeinside said:
The problem is the money.

Gaming the Instagram system doesn't really hurt Instagram. They still keep their money from ads they sell. They get paid no matter what.

Youtube is different. They split ad revenue with a channel that is bringing in views. So Youtube is more thorough in looking at the traffic that is responsible for showing the ads. Fake viewers can cause them to lose clients

So your software, running on a vps would use other proxy servers to actually "view" the video a certain amount of time, maybe hit the X to cancel the commercial and still continue to "view". It could also not just "watch" a single video, because people will search and then watch a couple more, etc. And it must never create a pattern. And it must know the location of the proxy servers it is using to know whether the traffic should be heavy (prime time) or very light (4 o'clock in the morning). And a dozen other things I cannot think of right now.

The Youtube bot must be smart.

Best regards,

The Eye
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I guess what you are saying is that Youtube is really hard to bot because they put a lot of resources behind their anti-bot system, unlike Instagram that makes it easier to bot.

You are also saying that you must not leave foot prints and act normal to get your views counted , or likes non drop, or subs non drop from Youtube.

With that being said, how difficulty is to create a general youtube bot without any browser that does general tasks, or a youtube views bot.
 
Herion said:
I feel like people would be more willing to bot YT if they knew how easy it is. They only recently started taking botting seriously, and the workaround is obvious but expensive for service providers who were used to abusing the shit out of a method that should've been dead years ago.
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I appreciate your input and for taking the time to chime in. What method are you specifically talking about? Is this the playlist method you are speaking of?

What exactly do you mean "expensive for service providers"? As far as I'm aware everyone just bought traffic and converted that traffic to youtube views.

By the way, I would like to congratulate you on your youtube web SaaS. I see that you picked a niche where most people give up after a while, or attempt it but give up of how hard it is to actually automate Youtube.
 
Percipience said:
I appreciate your input and for taking the time to chime in. What method are you specifically talking about? Is this the playlist method you are speaking of?

What exactly do you mean "expensive for service providers"? As far as I'm aware everyone just bought traffic and converted that traffic to youtube views.

By the way, I would like to congratulate you on your youtube web SaaS. I see that you picked a niche where most people give up after a while, or attempt it but give up of how hard it is to actually automate Youtube.
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Not talking about views, talking about likes, comments, subs, etc. Unfortunately can't disclose the method.

As for it being expensive, YT accounts now need age/activity to be able to like/sub. A little over a year ago, they added that restriction for upvotes because of the panel that I ran. They're just now getting around to doing it for other things.
 
Automatize YT so hard, you must spend so many time and money... If you are ready - you can, but I cant(
 
Optimization on YouTube and driving traffic from other sources using automation is more effective in my opinion. YouTube is going insane right now because their advertisers have been threatening to pull out of the platform.
 
Herion said:
Not talking about views, talking about likes, comments, subs, etc. Unfortunately can't disclose the method.

As for it being expensive, YT accounts now need age/activity to be able to like/sub. A little over a year ago, they added that restriction for upvotes because of the panel that I ran. They're just now getting around to doing it for other things.
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I'm cognizant that you are not at liberty of imparting your precious knowledge on me. And speaking of which, with true honestly I should let you know that I'm highly dubious of the idea that Youtube added a restriction because of your panel. I just don't believe that you even registered as a bleep on their map.
I'll spell it out to make things clear.You weren't the only one spamming Youtube for comments and voting them up. That method of making money is years old, way older than your panel.
 
Percipience said:
I'm cognizant that you are not at liberty of imparting your precious knowledge on me. And speaking of which, with true honestly I should let you know that I'm highly dubious of the idea that Youtube added a restriction because of your panel. I just don't believe that you even registered as a bleep on their map.
I'll spell it out to make things clear.You weren't the only one spamming Youtube for comments and voting them up. That method of making money is years old, way older than your panel.
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Right. I'm sure YT just randomly decided to take comment spam more seriously. Had nothing to do with 50% of the top comments on their top videos being spam. And I'd say that the only panel available that did 6 figure revenue per month was at least a bleep.

No need to be salty about me not disclosing a method that isn't useful for YT specifically anymore.
 
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