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  1. xhpdx

    xhpdx Regular Member

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    For some time I've been thinking to get a laser eye surgery and fix my eye problems once and for all. For several years, I've been using contact lens, but my eyes started to get really red especially on parties which involve lots of alcohol, so I went back to glasses. I've been doing little research on the surgery and so far I am not 100% convinced to do it. Some of the people I know had successful surgeries, but very small number didn't get the desired improvement. I also read about a alternate method by a guy named Norbekov that does not require surgery, only some eye muscle exercises which seemed really easy and am willing to try it soon. Have any of you guys had a eye surgery, tried the other method or did something else ?
     
  2. Petrel

    Petrel Registered Member

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    Norbekov's method sounds like a CB product.

    You could possibly visit a surgeon who will not be doing the operation and ask if you should?
     
  3. mccullum

    mccullum Power Member

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    i think surgery is the best.eye exercises???not at all.Like the above user said,i think it will be of the CB product quality.
     
  4. cbar126

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    Ken Moadel is the best Dr. hands down. New York City.

    I had astigmatism 6.6 left eye and miopia 2.5 right eye, now both 20/20 after 5 years.... (actually right eye better than 20/20)

    This Dr. is the surgeon of many famous basketball, baseball, etc, you can see all the pictures with autographs thanking him, no lawsuits yet.

    $5,000 both eyes.

    He will even take miopia patiences with level that no Dr will ever think (like 12) and leave you with 3 (better impossible).

    Hope this helps
     
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    sherbert Registered Member

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    What worries me is that on all the TV ads I've seen for laser eye surgery, all the surgeons are wearing glasses!
     
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  6. The Scarlet Pimp

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    The Rationalization of Refractive Surgeons

    Many refractive surgeons argue they are 'doing the right thing' and the vast majority of postops are happy and will continue to be happy (which may be true). They claim long term complications are 'negligible' or 'are not a concern', and they don't expect to see 'large numbers' of problem patients 10, 20 or 30 years later.

    They claim, correctly, that the vast majority of patients are happy with the results of surgery, and that PRK and LASIK have been a breakthrough for those with significant refractive errors. They acknowledge the 'unfortunate few', and say they warn patients of the risk.

    Many successful postops believe refractive surgery has been a 'miracle' for them, and many surgeons believe in the surgery and its safety and effectiveness as long as the patient is aware of the risks, known and unknown.

    Unhappy patients do not give testimonials at seminars.

    Some surgeons have undergone PRK and LASIK themselves. But you have to wonder, "If they think it's the 'right thing', why do so many feel it is NOT the 'right thing' for their nearsightedness."

    One ophthalmologist, describing the attitude of his colleagues that perform refractive surgery, put it this way, "After you blinded a couple of eyes, it doesn't seem to be that big of a deal".

    One refractive surgeon, when asked why he wouldn't have the surgery for his own myopia put it bluntly, "My eyes are too valuable."

    EyeKnowWhy estimates that any refractive surgeon who has done 500 RK eyes has functionally blinded at least one, and any refractive surgeon who has done 1000 PRK eyes has functionally blinded at least one.

    Of course, the numbers for significant vision impairment (vision loss of 2 or more lines of Snellen) are much higher. Many refractive surgeons argue the risk of significant complications are adequately low that they feel comfortable recommending the surgery to those willing to accept the risks.

    http://mattmcmahon.com/eyeknowwhy/index.html

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  7. xhpdx

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    The guy is famous in the alternative medicine field, perhaps it is not a cb crap...

    New York is so far away and 5k is too much at the moment(in my country prices are around 1500 euros)

    Yeah, I've been wondering why advertise surgery, lenses and other stuff while the ophthalmologists still wear glasses (advertise goodyear tires, while you use michelin and show it to everyone)

    Now that is a hypocrite. I will research more about the intacs for now
     
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    My wife had LASIK surgery about 5 years ago. She had zero complications other than the expected eye dryness shortly after surgery. She still has 20/15 vision. The only downside to this type of procedure (and the reason I never had it done) is that you still will need reading glasses as you get older.
     
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    Sell fear, so you sell intacs. BS.

    I have a consult with my oft. today, I'm interested in the surgery, but I'll consult at least 3 docs before doing it.

    The line between the doctor and the salesman, oh capitalism.
     
  10. ogimis

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    I had LASIK 24 or so years ago. My eyes have been great and they were in very bad shape before. I was severely miopic like -18 and is why I got it so long ago.

    In short , no regrets, they also said they can do it again as your eyes change as you get older.

    Im not gonna lie, it was scary when I had it done but now Id do it again.

    Oh and eye excersizes will help but marginally at best so I wouldnt be under any false pretenses.

    no more glasses or contacts(I had hard permiable lenses that drove my eyes crazy and eventually grew intolerant of them and the reason I had the procedure done.)


    Good luck
     
  11. philionaire

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    I had LASIK in 2001 when I was 21 and it was well worth the money.

    Yes I knew all about the bad results and the fact that after the op you still might need to wear glasses. Thankfully my op went all good.

    I done it for a few reasons. I paid 2000 pounds for it.

    Money: The way I looked at it is if you were to spend 100 pounds/year on glasses then it pays for itself after 20 years, and still have 10ish years left (they say it last till your about 50)

    Social: On the social side when I was younger I drank a bit and used to always fall asleep with them in. It was a nightmare waking up in the mornings feeling like my eyes were glued to each other.

    Time: Another aspect was time. Its stupid things like 5min in the morning and 5 at night, but hey these all add up.

    Also sport: I played a bit of football (soccer for everyone else) and as you know its not really a game for wearing glasses.

    As you probably know you will need to were glasses for 6 weeks (to let your eyes adjust to the air again) before the op and get tested to make sure you can have it. I needed to buy a pair of glasses knowing I was going to be binning them 6 weeks later lol!

    I know its a lot of money, but hey thats what creditcards are for. Many places actually have credit systems as well.

    Overall Id say its well worth it and would have it done again in the blink of an eye

    ahahahaha - bad pun I know
     
  12. BENNY8877

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    I had it done three years ago, it was amazing. I should probably be going back for a touch up soon though. Keep in mind this doesn't mean you won't be wearing glasses again. Your eyesight can still deteriorate over your life time.
     
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  13. Bolo334

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    Laser Eye surgery changed my life.

    No more fumbling for my glasses in the morning. No more touching my eye balls with contacts. No more walking into a store on a cold day and having my glasses fog up. No more rain drops on my vision.

    It's been 3 years and they're still great.
     
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    if u speak russian I can hook you up with the best exercises program from a russian academic, who got shot not to long ago for telling people the truth about vodka, smoking, drugs, and how to not use medicine but instead use natural resources. Pm me
     
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    very good point!
     
  16. Superpower

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    yes eye exercises and natural resources when used correctly will show results which will last for ever than these laser.
     
  17. xhpdx

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    Are you speaking based on your experience or you've read that somewhere ?
     
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    My wife had it and it cost 3600.00 and they even threw in a correction for night blindness. It took 5 minutes per eye and she could see immediately. It comes with lifetime free tuneups if needed. It was the laser center or TLC.

    HTH
     
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    I can vouch for that its not that - new wave - the eyes have muscles - to focus so the more your use tem the better they get - my eyes have reduced in focus froom 20- 20 to les cos of using a machine 24 7 - -- so i take lots of eye breaks :cool: and i wear sunglassses when using the machines -
     
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    I'm interersted in home remidies and do research by reading many old books of ayurveda and trying to find out easy to use and at the same time simple medicines prepared using ingrediants that are right in our kitchen instead of visiting pharmacy shop for every small reason.And i do suggest certain remedies to ppl on a forum as advisor.

    After spending so much time in front of pc its causing and started creating many eye problems.So now came time to implement those on myself .So started doing some eye exercises and trying out some ayurvedic preparation purely prepared at home.its based on Indian ayurvedic system of preparation used some centuries back to cure various eye related diseases and still working without any side effects .Many getting cured by it at my place but i myself trying out on myself now since a few days.So only speaking so :).It does work great "old is gold".