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[Journey] Online vs Offline

Discussion in 'My Journey Discussions' started by everythingred, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    So here's a journey that I'm going to do just for the hell of it, I can't guarantee how much I'll update it or if I'll succeed. I don't even know what succeeding would be for this. This is just to see whether I can make more money through online or offline ventures.

    Online:

    Start an Amazon affiliate site


    • Post loads of articles while I'm in classes
    • Make manual Web 2.0's
    • Build tiers with ZSubmitter and GSA
    • Order some services on BHW
    • Find guest posts to advertise on myself
    • Find forums to genuinely post on
    • Find a subreddit on Reddit, become known, and slip my site in occasionally

    Make an Adsense site


    • The keywords I found range from $4.73 to $49 so it can pay a lot but many of them are Medium rank while only some are Relatively Easy
    • Write articles and see how far on-page optimization can get me before I invest in it further

    Offline:


    7878 Method (http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ers-17-000-profit-3-weeks.html?highlight=7878)


    • Find businesses with terrible reviews
    • Mail them and then follow up with a call after 2 weeks
    • Find more businesses to mail
    • Upsell them all on SEO services

    Wasted Method (http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-days-exact-method-z-so-simple-duplicate.html)


    • Find local businesses that use crappy Yahoo Hosting sites
    • Offer them a simple free website and get them to sign up with my affiliate link
    • Upsell them on Google Places and SEO

    Conclusion:

    Here we go!
     
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  2. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Day 1:

    Online:

    Amazon site

    • Theme installed (my friend created an incredible review theme that I'm beta testing for him and his brother)
    • Plugins installed: Akismet, All 404 redirect, All in One SEO, Contact Form 7, Google XML, iThemes Security (can't have a site without this), Statpress, W3 Cache, Websimon Tables, WordPress Hype Generator (get it on BHW)
    • I've got hosting with Servikus so I'm not worried about having all of these plugins because the hosting is ridiculously fast

    Offline:


    • Have website for my offline business already by the way, but just adding that in here

    7878 Method


    • Bought 40 envelopes from the dollar store for $1.25 (the ones you don't need to lick, what a deal)
    • A 'confidential' stamp to get their attention (thanks originalposter)
    • Printed business cards to put inside the envelopes to make it look professional
    • Bought 40 stamps for $38
    • Got red markers ready to go, time to print, prtscn, sign, and all of that tedious stuff
     
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    Really like that 2nd Offline Method.. Would be interesting to See if that still works.

    Good Luck
     
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  4. BigMoneyyy

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    Good luck on your journey.
     
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  5. hatblackguy

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    I might learn thing or two about offline, Good luck with your journey
     
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  6. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Day 2:

    Online:

    Amazon affiliate site


    • Configured theme to phpbuilt's guide for on-page SEO
    • Wrote 5 articles totaling 500+ words
    • Made 5 manual Web 2.0's for 3 keywords each (total of 15) with 3 articles and pictures on each

    Adsense site


    • Installed WordPress but admin is giving me an error 'not found' so I'm gonna message support to figure that out


    Offline:


    7878 Method


    • Packaged, signed, stamped 38 letters for now, I have way more businesses to mail still

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    Wasted Method


    • Found a handful of these websites with personal information and I'll be doing some emailing to them
     
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  7. ExecutiveDude

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    Good luck with your journey dude
    I know you will rock
     
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  8. GothamSEO

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    It's good to see you taking action. I'm also getting ready to dab my hands with 7878's method. There's tonnes of businesses around where I live so it should be relatively easy but they don't seem to have a website. Now I can offer a whole package such as site design, SEO service and Reputation Management.

    Have you ever thought of providing a whole package rather than just the Reputation Management?
     
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  9. Vesania

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    Interested in this! Keep it for sure! Looking to follow along for the ride =)
     
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  10. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Day 5:

    Online:

    Amazon affiliate site


    • Wrote 3 articles
    • Recorded some YouTube videos that I'm going to put on the channel and on the website

    Adsense site


    • In the process of looking for an Adsense theme that would look good with insurance niche. If anyone has any recommendations I'd be glad to hear them.


    Offline:


    7878 Method


    • Waiting to hear from businesses that I've mailed
    • Changed the answering machine on my cell phone to make it sound more professional
     
  11. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Great question, here's how I'm going to do it:



    The benefits of taking a Sociology of Economics course.
     
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    Day 5.1 Update:

    Got a call from a potential client and she said that she wishes that she got my information sooner because they just hired a friend of the business for 'media' purposes. She sounded like she really wanted to business though and she asked if I can give them a call in 8 months time once the contract is done.

    I'm not going to be desperate and I told her that I probably won't remember to call them (as if I have other clients to tend to) and she said that she's going to keep the documentation and give me a call when the time comes.

    I looked up the person who they hired and they don't even have a website, just a Facebook page promoting the importance of social media. I'm not even worried about it.

    But even if they don't call back, guess what? Word of mouth. Now she knows about me and whenever it comes up, she has my business card and someone to refer.
     
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    No updates because I'm getting frustrated with ZSubmitter support. The language barrier just prevents us from solving anything.
     
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    Update:

    Took a while to update because I was having problems with ZSubmitter and it just wasn't posting for me. If they had proper English support then maybe it would have worked out but the language barrier is way too frustrating. So I'm back to just using GSA. Currently scraping article and wiki links using Scrapebox and will be using GSA to post articles, wikis and Web 2.0 to my manual web 2.0 properties. Filters will be PR1+, OBL -100, English speaking countries and select European countries only (no Russia, No Asia and little countries).

    Online:

    Amazon affiliate site


    • Made more posts on Web 2.0 to make them more authoritative
    • Ordered BHW service
    • Ordered Fiverr guest post with my own article PR6
    • More Keyword research
    • Getting 20 unique visitors daily without any service ordered so my on-page SEO must be decent
    • Found some places to guest post so will be contacting webmasters

    Offline:


    7878 Method


    • Got some calls from a private number so maybe someone is trying to figure out who I am
    • Not any calls since last update, I targeted dentists, walk in clinics and gyms.
    • Working on new leads in better occupational fields
     
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  15. blackcoffee7

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    How much have you earned already?
     
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    Pure beauty... this thread. Subscribed.

    I wish you luck!!
     
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  17. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Dude, I just started. It's barely been 2 weeks and I ran into some roadblocks.
     
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    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Day 13:

    Online:

    Amazon site

    • In the top 100 for some keywords

    Adsense site

    • I'm ditching it and instead starting another Amazon website

    Amazon site #2

    • Domain purchased from GoDaddy for 99 cents
    • Installed WP
    • Using the same theme and plugins
    • Ordered 2 500 word articles from wnateg

    Offline:


    7878 Method

    • Got a call from a business yesterday but couldn't contact them so just called them back
    • Still new to this phone conversation so don't know how well it went
    • They have a system for leaving reviews so I let them know about the review funnel and that got his attention
    • He said he will talk to his supervisor and get back to me
     
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    Good luck on your journey man, one piece on advice on the ORM / wasted methods:

    If you do manage to get a call from your potential client (or return their call and they pick up), try to briefly and professionaly explain who you are and what you are offering, but don't forget that the entire purpose of this phone call is to get an appointment with them.
    Since you're not yet a professional telemarketer and they know little about you / your service, your chances of selling them your service will be exponentially bigger if you can talk to them in person; so don't forget to push the appointment and keep the conversations as short as possible.

    Since you're also doing amazon affiliate marketing this is a great example; when you get people to visit your website you'll want them to go to amazon as quickly and with as little detours as possible (exept for when you're targetting purely informational keywords or very expensive products) since Amazon.tld will usually be a lot better at pushing your visitors down the sales funnel.

    I will be following this one closely. Since I'm also into amazon and ORM feel free to hit me up on skype if you want to chat.
     
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  20. everythingred

    everythingred Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Yea selling them on the meeting is what I was trying to do but as soon as I heard that they have another review system in place I felt like I had to scramble. Only my second call ever so I'm getting better but need to sell on the meeting more.

    Very good point on the Amazon site. I'm focusing on using Websimon Table to make comparison charts early in the articles. Just to need find a happy medium in order to satisfy search engines.
     
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