[Journey] Cracking Instagram's ML Algorithm

Digital Finger · Feb 21, 2019

TasDePixels said:
Following this.

i'm curious on why you chose to run the process via an app emulator rather than a headless browser ? is it safer ?

Here take a look at this post reply I made Here

Making an account using a headless browser is of course a problem.

Headless means that the website gains no information from you, it's just as bad as using an overused proxy.

By trying to hide you're exposing yourself.

If you blend in there is less of a chance. All if not most big boys use some kind of Android system to create accounts.

That's because everything you can get fingerprinted on is not unique. Since alot of people have the same phones.

Ignatius O · Feb 24, 2019

which python module are you using to automate android browser. and which finger prints do you change. ex(ip,user-agent,screen size, device id, os version)

Ignatius O · Feb 24, 2019

Also do you automate hotmail account creation also

SuppWhitey · Feb 24, 2019

If you got perfect state accounts don't sell them for cheap people will think your accounts are cheap

airtman · Feb 25, 2019

Hello can I get a browser that provides the DM feature of Instagram

Digital Finger · Feb 25, 2019

Ignatius O said:
Also do you automate hotmail account creation also

Everything is automated.

Ignatius O said:
which python module are you using to automate android browser. and which finger prints do you change. ex(ip,user-agent,screen size, device id, os version)

I change everything from user agent to canvas.

SuppWhitey said:
If you got perfect state accounts don't sell them for cheap people will think your accounts are cheap

That is true the only unfortunate thing is that I cannot offer proxies with the accounts.

I made 500 accounts with my 4G proxy on Vodafone. Their IP range is so small. None banned so far which is great.

I did have a problem with Hotmail since if you use the same IP twice in 5 mins it triggers PV to create accounts even if you’re using a mobile IP.

I will consider maybe selling warm accounts with a good proxy to make the price a little higher.

Digital Finger · Feb 25, 2019

Yakob Smith said:
Following...

Thank you if you have any questions let me know!

airtman said:
Hello can I get a browser that provides the DM feature of Instagram

The easiest way is to download Instagrams windows app (for PC).

Ignatius O · Feb 25, 2019

Ignatius O said:
which python module are you using to automate android browser

You did not answer this question

Digital Finger · Feb 25, 2019

Ignatius O said:
You did not answer this question

I was using UIAutomator figured it wasn't the best option.
Now I will be trying to get into monkeyrunner for android using jython.

However, again I am not creating accounts via mobile this batch of 500 were created through PC.

iOptimize · Feb 25, 2019

Solving Re-Captcha with Google's Speech to Text is pretty badass. Does this also work now?

Digital Finger · Feb 25, 2019

Alonson said:
Interesting! Following your journey

If you have any questions let me know!

hanesu said:
Solving Re-Captcha with Google's Speech to Text is pretty badass. Does this also work now?

It does work however you would need to make sure that Google does not give you bot rating you can check this via their own recaptcha v3 response. This means its limited the 'quality' of the IP.

Since IP's do get flagged as a bot IP (however they reset this every 12-24 hours -it is just a flag).

You can also only ask for the audio twice before you get the "Your network is using automated requests".

It is by far the easiest and overall cheapest way to solve the captchas.

The average response from Google Cloud is around 5-15 seconds, which is amazing compared to any Captcha solving service (50-90 seconds).

However, it does have it's drawbacks of Google being very temperamental.

Their Voice Captcha relies on previous prints on Google. If you have Cookies set etc etc.

Based on that they give you a score.

karupoiss · Feb 25, 2019

I would suggest you to sell these accounts but at a premium price point by expressing the importance of your accs not being fingerprinted.

BloodyNinja · Feb 25, 2019

Digital Finger said:
The problem with multi login is that when they set their fingerprints they only use one GPU version - correct me if I’m wrong (I have tested this myself)

It was in like 2017 I think. Long time not true.
Now you can also fully automate ML with Python and the problem with scaling is also solved...

Digital Finger · Feb 25, 2019

karupoiss said:
I would suggest you to sell these accounts but at a premium price point by expressing the importance of your accs not being fingerprinted.

Yes, however it is very tricky trying to keep my pricing at market level or a little higher since the expense when upkeeping the accounts it much higher therefore margins are lower for me.
That being the case if I don't find a demand for the accounts then I will be at heavy loss.

BloodyNinja said:
It was in like 2017 I think. Long time not true.
Now you can also fully automate ML with Python and the problem with scaling is also solved...

You are correct I did use your trial service recently and found that was not the case in terms of GPU it has been corrected.
Your Mimic and StealthFox browsers also have the ability to run Selenium and Puppeteer which you claim to be undetectable which is rather nice.

However, the pricing is not good for Instagram automation. Although I can understand the price is good for users that want to use it for other reasons.

Although I also found that running your Mimic browser which I believe it to be a Chrome Mimic the ram usage is very low which is great for mass automation.

Overall using your platform would work wonders for my project (would make things 100x easier), however the pricing does not allow me to.

Digital Finger · Feb 27, 2019

0 Bans on the 500 accounts 0 Phone verification - Although I have just let them sit there no warm up.

I want to test something so for this I need a member that's keeping up with this Journey (a member that can prove that he/she is currently doing Instagram marketing).
I will give this member one account over PM, what I need this member to do is to give me a proxy. Doesn't matter what it is (obviously if you want to keep the account long term then one you use).

If accounts have been banned on that proxy before even better - I want to test out the quality of my accounts!

I will then try to merge that proxy to that profile and will give you the account in 3-5 days - after I warm the account to the proxy using existing print info.

The account will have both a working Facebook and Instagram and Mail accounts - all verified.

Feel free to PM me.

Extras:

I have discovered (this is purely speculation) that Facebook and Instagram does not give you Adverts when you first start accounts.

I wonder if this is because you are in a "Warm up" period or because they cannot put you in a category as a potential customer.

All-in-all I'm sure Facebook does want their advertisers to have the highest of quality consumers - they wouldn't want to advertise to bots.

Therefore, I conclude that when your account sees ads for the first time it must be that you are verified as a user and are out of the initial stage.

This helps to know when you can start mass following rather than threading lightly.

If anyone has any comments on this please comment below I would love to get into a discussion about this topic.

airtman · Feb 28, 2019

How long does it take for the initial stage to be over, I remember a friend who his ad was declined by IG even though the account has been for 2 months without being managed

riseNgrind · Feb 28, 2019

Do you think it’s beneficial to create account in mobile browser and log into it afterwards with mobile app and perform human actions?

Digital Finger · Feb 28, 2019

airtman said:
How long does it take for the initial stage to be over, I remember a friend who his ad was declined by IG even though the account has been for 2 months without being managed

It’s not about advertising on Instagram. Is that I believe that Facebook doesn’t show you until it believes you are a verified user.

riseNgrind said:
Do you think it’s beneficial to create account in mobile browser and log into it afterwards with mobile app and perform human actions?

Instagram would just link your account to your mobile phone. Creating it via browser will make a clean account but then if you log in via the app it will just link your accounts to the rest.

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I am still looking for someone that wants an account check my post above.

riseNgrind · Feb 28, 2019

Digital Finger said:
It’s not about advertising on Instagram. Is that I believe that Facebook doesn’t show you until it believes you are a verified user.

Instagram would just link your account to your mobile phone. Creating it via browser will make a clean account but then if you log in via the app it will just link your accounts to the rest.

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I am still looking for someone that wants an account check my post above.

I will take an account and help for testing purposes

Fang Yu · Feb 28, 2019

How do you automate the process ?

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