Is whitehat seo dying today - a shocking story

Hi guys,

is whitehat seo today dying in the sarch results? You see often more and more commercial sites coming up at the top of first page in google.
And many more sites who have nothing to do with your search phrase or question. But hey, G+B these elitists creating new noble rules, to get rid of jam chunk, make the user experience better, raising their standards- is all that a big fat lie?

Here I found a fascinating story be aware the story will shock you !

John has written good content on his site he build a amazon affiliate site in 2019 hit it like a rocket, got backlinks from big sites like
Fast Company, PSFK, Trend Hunter, Core 77 and LSN Global. His site was mentioned in Gartner's L2 newsletter and tweeted by executives at Facebook and Google Ventures. Good, Cheap and Fast was even profiled internationally in Esquire ES and Slate FR.

What a shock, google reduces his traffic over two years more and more till the end of dec 2020 (shutdown) , but other sites with fake personas, fake content, outranked him.Another shock- Bing not indexed his site they give him a shit to index thje site.

Please read his story carefully : https://www.johnwdefeo.com/my-work/good-cheap-and-fast

It's sad what these search engine giants doing with us today (not all) how to prevent getting your site shutdown from G+B ?

These thoughts now coming up in my mind:
- how prevent this ?
- how can I have more control of my website over the search engines?
- does it make sense today to have own website- is it better share content on social media platforms who google not shutdown?
(also only have a "visitcard website")
- why does Bing not index good whitehat websites ?
why google reduce the traffic of my website?
- using more alternative stable traffic sources to be more indepedent from google ?

Guys how is your experience with this problem and are there any possibilities to solve this?
Now I go to supermarket must buy a new coffee pot my old is broken....be back in one hour again.

Whitehat has been dead for many years. They should change this section to greyhat.

so when whitehat seo is dead for many years , read the nig G guidelines and rules, then they are looking contrary to whitehat seo?
Google says have clean domain, no emd domain, good high quality content blablaqla all that , and atthe end it's all worthless bullshit ?

Marco69 said:

so when whitehat seo is dead for many years , read the nig G guidelines and rules, then they are looking contrary to whitehat seo?
Google says have clean domain, no emd domain, good high quality content blablaqla all that , and atthe end it's all worthless bullshit ?

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Yes it's all bs, to an extent. The most successful are the ones who do not play by the rules.

Marco69 said:

What a shock, google reduces his traffic over two years more and more till the end of dec 2020 (shutdown) , but other sites with fake personas, fake content, outranked him.Another shock- Bing not indexed his site they give him a shit to index thje site.

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But if everyone writes perfect content and build perfect websites, why should John´s website stay at the top and not anyone else website. The discussion is flawed.

Why are you relying on them? There are thousands of other businesses that you can create online and as offline without relying on Google traffic.

I think you not have read the article, getting noticed and backlinks from these site like John, most of us will not getting noticed by these sites or getting backlinks from them, why should google shutdown such a quality site ?

I think we can only speculate on this, my conspiracy theory is, when you as an product review website will get noticed from such sites they will alarming one of the big boys, so they can shut you down.

Not forget on my other post: about the 16 big companies who are ruling google seo world, these big boys got the right from court (!) to rank with their search keywords/phrases, that means no other sites has the right to rank with the same keywords, but it goes deeper, they have the right to shut you down.

Same in europe usus, a company has a trademark on their products, so you as an affiliate should not use any similar related keywords or phrases that contain this trademark ! They have the right to shut you down, you can write about that company and in the article of their products, but not using their trademark products in the title.

More simple example: Techradar has the right to ranking in google for "best android smartphones" or for "andorid samsung bestsellers" then please not use the same key phrases they have the right to shut you down, they write this DMCA file to google then you will get the hammer.

Yes it's life life is changing, new things coming old things going...but it's not normal that google will shutdown a good quality website, more contrary google ranks them above who have fakes personas and much more of such tactics.........this all makes their rules, guidelines as a big lie.

Google have been abusing small sites for years now. Funny how you can't find even ONE Blogger site on the 20 first SERP's, even though it's suppose to be "theirs".

You can't actually find anything that not belongs to a huge company/retailer.

Even if you are SEO "Expert" and your website is flawless in every term with the best fucking content you can put into it, it might not rank on mysterious decision made by "Algorithm", But a shitty site without any SEO investment that steals your content WORD BY WORD will outrank you.

And I won't even add one word about Bing which is that stupid guy from work nobody wants to hang out with.

Anyway, Google is killing itself with this shit.

another interesting today:

someone wrotes a story about "Polish dentist who pulled out all of her ex-boyfriend's teeth in an act of revenge" but nobody knows who wrote it, so there is no owner of this content? This was eight years ago, search today for similar like; "dentist pulled ex boyfriends teeth," th eit quotes this from original source ABC news !

I asked that many times here on this forum, how newspaper get such stories , new, trendy and make them as their own original? Git no answers here.
Yes you can blackhat rewrite older articles and you own it as original.

But the newspapers getting news content then can claim it as their own or often with a source link to reuters, so they get these news from reuters...
I have read that when a blog uses rss feeds to pushout their content, newspapers or you, we both, can use this feed and claim it as your own. I do not know if that is correct and how doing it.

flprocess; yes it's sad.

so it looks like as I said before, it's better to have only small visitcard page, then write your content on other platforms, Linkedin, instagram, facebook, target niche forums, whatsoever will rank in google serps, google will not shutdown these platforms, so you should be more safe.

But problem is how to get this traffic going out to your site to book a schedule, buy your services or sign up for your newsletter?
Medium is not so stable...blogger sites are disappeared the last 20 years....

Have a medium blog with your own domain will be an alternative?
Yes I know many people today knowing that google is a subtle liar, creating such high standard rules but doing the opposite I call this criminal scumbag.

Marco69 said:

flprocess; yes it's sad.

so it looks like as I said before, it's better to have only small visitcard page, then write your content on other platforms, Linkedin, instagram, facebook, target niche forums, whatsoever will rank in google serps, google will not shutdown these platforms, so you should be more safe.

But problem is how to get this traffic going out to your site to book a schedule, buy your services or sign up for your newsletter?
Medium is not so stable...blogger sites are disappeared the last 20 years....

Have a medium blog with your own domain will be an alternative?
Yes I know many people today knowing that google is a subtle liar, creating such high standard rules but doing the opposite I call this criminal scumbag.

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Well there are other ways to get people into your website (by advertising - not with Google). Question is what's the ROI.

Don't think Witehat even exist.
Got to use blackhat to be Witehat

Whitehat was vanished way back.

ok so using other people content, copy it, steak it.....then get good seo ranking and traffic with that ???

do you have proof show me examples of sites who doing this , who gets high seo ranking and traffic .

so be a madmen is the way to go....on social media too ( maybe more subtle) nit make them hate you .

I want build my online business in high ticket coaching niche here doing blackhat is suicide.....

Marco69 said:

I want build my online business in high ticket coaching niche here doing blackhat is suicide.....

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There's nothing wrong with blackhat and long as your sticking to the basics of blackhat and not doing anything too overly crazy.

another thing is I struggle the last 2 days creating an podcast , having a mac mini 2012 with catalina and a boya m1 lavalier mic and a android oppo smartphone.
English is not my mother language (it's german) .

When I try to record my voice with the boya in google docs the english out is horrible is word salad....
The same with the mote voice tool online the english output on the script is horrible.

When I speak in germany the output is correct the mic recognizes my words but not so with english.
Same with my android.

I wonder how tehse youtubers create such good near perfect translations for their video I'm struggle with that.
What I'm doing wrong? is it the boya mic? Should I buy a better mic like the yeti snowball (example) , what is the reason that the mic not recognizes correct my english speaking?

Have goodnight

redarrow said:

Don't think Witehat even exist.
Got to use blackhat to be Witehat

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Hello Brother..
What service do you advise? I want to rank for a few keyword terms but im new here so i want to know what service should i get since i will have to create the blog from scratch.
Thank you

today I try again podcast audio with my smartphone and make screenshots so you can see it. Or I use text to speech, but problem is, when I make videos, user see and can hear that my voice in video is different than in my podcast, so it will not look serious?
Or making podcast with my own voice in descript then use their text to speech for podcast.


Journalism blackhat:
In the international journalistic branch RADAR AI is one such tool be sure it's expensive, five Journalists wrote 400.000 pages within three years all on google news with this tool.
Page: https://pa.media/radar/

wow what a short domain name