Is White Hat SEO Better Than Black Hat?

Whatever happened to "slow and steady wins the race"?

Oh well.. me wants quick cash so I guess doing BH seems to be the quickest way to earn but I am also thinking of "freemium" web-based products that I might want to sell.. Hmm.. I need to learn the ropes I guess..
 
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mdsurf said:
you are 100% wrong in every way. look at the forum your on, its called Black Hat World. Please go back to warrior forum and learn a few things.

when it comes to SEO work SMART not HARD. blackhat is great for automating tasks that would otherwise take way to long to do by hand.

why submit to 10 directories an hour when a program can submit to 10,000 in an hour. that is just one example of many on why blackhat is a necessary part of any serious SEO campaign.

plain and simple if your doing everything manually your doing it wrong. now how much black hat and white hat you have in your seo campaign is up to you.
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But then don't you risk that being considered spamming or duplicate?

Does it risk your website being penalised by Google?

I'm not doubting what you're saying, I'm just asking about doing what you're saying without risking your site being banned or something.

An aside. I have a local business and my website has a PR3 but since the Panda update the site moved slowly down from page 1. I need some SEO work, like articles/link building from high ranking sites, content, etc. to get back to page 1. Can you or anyone recommend someone who can do this without risking getting penalised?

Am I allowed to post in this section if I am looking for this service rather than offering it?

Thanks in advance.
 
cloudcomp said:
blackhat is better if you consider the speed (earning speed:)), but it has more risk (your site may be banned).
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Thank you cloudcomp. It's not worth the risk. I may consider using another domain with similar but different content to try to achieve quick ranking though. I know to make it different information than the original but my city is so competitive (most competitive in the country/world) it may take a new site forever even with bh/auto techniques, urgh!
 
persyme said:
But then don't you risk that being considered spamming or duplicate?

Does it risk your website being penalised by Google?

I'm not doubting what you're saying, I'm just asking about doing what you're saying without risking your site being banned or something.

An aside. I have a local business and my website has a PR3 but since the Panda update the site moved slowly down from page 1. I need some SEO work, like articles/link building from high ranking sites, content, etc. to get back to page 1. Can you or anyone recommend someone who can do this without risking getting penalised?

Am I allowed to post in this section if I am looking for this service rather than offering it?

Thanks in advance.
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*IN MY OPINION you do not risk your site being penalized by doing blackhat to it. now im not saying to xrumer your site with 1 million links but you can definitely do blackhat methods to your site as long as your using it smartly.

One of the things i like to do is build a bunch of web2.0 buffer sites to my money site(i use zenno poster for this). once i have lets say 500-1000 web 2.0, targeting ~20-50 long tails i blast the hell out of them

I will AMR the web 2.0's build a few thousand more web2.0s to them, SB blast them and linkicous everything when im done.

you also mentioned you need links from high ranking sites, use scrapebox to find high pr blogs then go manual comment on them, that will help you get high pr links for sure. or you can find the links and outsource the commenting

hopefully this helps you out, let me know if you have any other questions :)
 
Are you trying to get long term rank, or short term traffic?
 
Theres no such thing as black hat or white hat. In fact SEO is just a big scam. If you want good rankings, I can sell you some links in Google. I will post your site to page one google for 3 easy payments of only 97.99. Not only that, but I will also supply you with a 1 month Yahoo voucher for number 2 position. Sign Up Now!
 
The mainstream gurus tells you to follow "the rules" as if SEO came down from Mount Sinai, and comply in a manner that has worked for only 5% of the IMers who have done so. It's an automated medium, so why not use automated tools to generate content, traffic or cash? Why is it legal for the big boys to use CS or other "no-no" techniques, but prosecutable when the little guy does it? And why have so many people who stayed WH in every way seen their sites google slapped, sandboxed, de-indexed anyway after all their efforts? All this is why true BH says, to heck with the rules, to heck with the gurus, and slap back.
 
quality against number.Both takes the same time.You can create thousand junk links within the time you create one quality backlink,both weighs the same.
 
let us first define what the difference its between white hat and and black hat first so we can all get a better answer :) or at least I can haha :D
 
White hat is good for projects that you want to be sustainable and with minimal risk of being penalized by Google. Black hat is good for everything else!

Well as a general rule, if I want something to be legit forever = White hat
If I have a project that i'm not sure about i'll do a mix of both and maybe more whitehat if I want to make sure it is sustainable.
 
Using manual, white hat techniques is a better option imho, but who has the time to manually build hundreds of backlinks if they're running several sites?

If you've got the time and patience, go with whitehat, otherwise BH FTW!
 
First, its neither against the law nor criminal to be Black Hat and being white hat is not going to get you to heaven, that out of the way, it is all about how well you can sleep at night. Some have sleepless night about things that others wouldnt even think about. The perfect mix is than to sleep well and still get decent amount of money... :)
 
The only difference is that SOME white hatters are hypocrites.

They're saying that black hatters are illegally doing things to manipulate search results. But isn't white hat SEO the same thing?

If Google had its way, there will be no link building, article marketing, social bookmarking or any other "white hat techniques" since they want people to naturally link to the content.

So in a way, white hatters are also manipulating rankings. The difference is you can get results much quicker using black hat techniques.

Just don't get caught. That means not being too greedy.
 
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