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Is CrackRevenue Scam/Scrubbing Me?

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by noxon06, Aug 31, 2013.

  1. noxon06

    noxon06 Registered Member

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    Hey guys I would love to hear your thoughts on this is happening to me and CrakRevenue:

    I have been passively promoting 2 offers from CrakRevenue.com (1st a free webcams and the 2nd an adult dating offer). I meant passively because I just created 2 videos in youtube in let them on their own.

    Anyway, for making the Story short...
    The topic now is the Adult Dating Offer, which was a PPS. I was getting 1 or 2 conversions per week (Nothing great, but heck it was on autopilot :) ). So after several commissions, the "CrakRevenue Team" contacted:



    I was like WTF, I am sending valid PAID leads, so what is the prob.


    Anyway, I replied and told them I was using Youtube for this offer. BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH!
    After that "Support and Communication" contacted me again (follow up of the same msg)


    Again I was WTF?? Verify what? :confused: Now I even should give them my shitty video?? :biggrin:

    In shortly, I told them I wasn't comfortable with that and if there is some problem with that source of traffic I could remove the link. They politely replied that there is no problem if I don't want to share the video, they just wanted to see it and there is no problem with that source of traffic.


    I was like .. hmm ok. :confused:

    Anyway... The End Of The Movie, From Then On...

    NEVER MORE GOT A VALID COMMISSION FROM ANY OF THEIR OFFERS - ALREADY 30+ DAYS!

    (Not even free webcams)

    Coincidence?... Maybe , I just Dont Think So :rolleyes:

    So, Is CrakRevenue Scrubbing My Commissions? My Affiliate Manager Became Upset? :motz:What do you think guys?

    PS: Ah Before Finishing, I Want To Say That They Did Pay All My Previous Commissions.
     
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  2. monetizetrash

    monetizetrash Junior Member

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    First time I hear problems with crakrevenue. Could be coincidence.
     
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  3. zenlagor

    zenlagor Regular Member

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    I've not had any problems with them at all.

    Pay/Get a friend to sign up through your video link and see what happens eh?
     
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  4. LordCameltoe

    LordCameltoe Regular Member

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    Hi, could you send me your aff id? I'll look into it. I can't speculate on why your aff asked for sources, but my first thought is they wanted to check up on your traffic to make sure it wasn't fraudulent. It's routine and helps protect us against people who use stolen CC's or email lists.
     
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  5. Web Echo

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    AFAIK, they don't like such traffic even if it's good traffic especailly if you have blank referrer.

    I was sending good quality traffic to them but referrer was blank as I don't want to show them my source. But they told me to stop sending it.
     
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  6. noxon06

    noxon06 Registered Member

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    Thanks for the idea.. it could work ;)

     
  7. noxon06

    noxon06 Registered Member

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    In your case were you also sending traffic to a PPS offer?

     
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    infoasian Supreme Member

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    Crak is not a real program. They are reselling others. As such they are more interested in exploiting methods for their own benefit. In other words, you should be doing much better by promoting cams and dating with real programs.
     
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  9. noxon06

    noxon06 Registered Member

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    Ok, thank you I just PMed you.

    Honestly I think if they would really have doubt on the quality of my traffic/"Paid leads I was sending", after I disagreed on sending my video, they would have asked me to stop the traffic. (Something similar what Web Echo said about)

    Plus, it was me who offered to stop sending traffic (the few I was sending to this offer) if there was some problem with the quality or the advertiser wasn't satisfied, but they told me there was no prob with it.

     
  10. noxon06

    noxon06 Registered Member

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    Hey thank for ur comment. Can you advise me some other good adult/cam aff program?

     
  11. Web Echo

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    No. they were free leads.

    But I know my traffic is mainly from US and highly targeted for adult cam as I know the source and the way I advertise it. Plus recently the other company where I am sending same traffic emailed me to appreciate the quality of traffic and offered more $ per free lead. :)
     
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  12. BIGBIGBIGMamas

    BIGBIGBIGMamas Power Member

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    I suspect something is going on (Like ALL other networks...)
    I've had far too many days where i've sent 8k+ UV's a day (75% US 15% UK/France/Canada rest from other places) and not gotten a single conversion

    Granted this isn't HUGE traffic, but still really?

    Have I made money with them ? YES
    Are they better than most? YES

    Do they scrub? I would NOT doubt it at all...
     
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  13. LordCameltoe

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    You're not wrong, but you're not right either.

    Crak is a platform like other CPA networks, however, the main difference is we create quality offers instead of listing other network's stuff. We also offer EXCLUSIVE offers (good luck getting a PPL account with MyFreeCams or Streamate) and we offer EXCLUSIVE tools. Our video landing pages are 100% unique and made in-house. I know because I'm the one that makes them.

    We also test our pages over our own traffic before making them public, so what is made available to you is what has been proven to work. We have a staff of full time media buyers that spend their entire days a-b testing our pages with different geos to see what works best.

    I could go on and on, but the gist of it is this : We don't hide the fact that you could go straight to the provider, however, you won't have access to our banners, pages, detailed stats, geo re-targetting and 1 payout for all programs at once. We give you access to the same tools that has made us super affiliates : that's what has made CrakRevenue such a success.
     
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  14. LordCameltoe

    LordCameltoe Regular Member

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    Its relative. What kind of traffic? Was it 404, popunder, skimmed or low prod traffic bought from a provider?

    and no, we don't scrub. Why burn our name and reputation for a few leads here and there?
     
  15. BIGBIGBIGMamas

    BIGBIGBIGMamas Power Member

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    I agree why do that? Seems illogical to me., but I have seen MANY networks do this (and i'm talking major networks you would think knew better...)

    All of my traffic is direct from my blogs. It converts. As I mentioned, I've made a lil' something with you guys. But the idea that i could push 8k-10k uv's your way and not see a single conversion for days on end just seems odd.(US traffic primarily)

    i'm not accusing you of being this or that. I'm merely saying I wouldn't doubt it.

    To think that a network doesn't shave just because you've made a few bucks or they say they don't or a bunch of ppl on a forum all get on and say you don't is a bit naive to me.

    Like I said you guys are better than most in the adult sector.

    Nevertheless, i will continue to test...

     
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  16. John.

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    Crakrevenue, on the ball, as always.
     
  17. LordCameltoe

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    The honest truth is you'll never know unless you come visit our offices and see how we operate. Before Crak we we're affiliates as well (we still are) and know all about the potential frustrations of working with another company. I understand how people can be skeptical and I wish there was a definitive way for me to prove once and for all that we don't scrub, shave, etc.

    Until I find a way of convincing you, you'll have to rely on my word and good faith :) Also, you can always hit up your affiliate manager on skype at crak_affiliates anytime between 9am and 5pm east coast time. They will be more than happy to see if there is any way you can improve your blog/site to increase conversions. Sometimes it can be as simple as changing up a banner.

    8k hits from a blog and no conversions does seem very odd to me. I would definitely hit us up immediately to see whats up with that before you spend more time and energy on your own trying to fix things.
     
  18. noxon06

    noxon06 Registered Member

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    Guys thanks for sharing your thoughts and this.

    Although I had good experience with Crak and I was one of those saying they were one of the best. This situation that have been happening to me lately made me change my mind cuz its really odd.

    Its really strange that with the same source of traffic and making regular sales my stats jumped to nothing and were/are so for more than a month already. Time to move on.

    @LordCameltoe I sent you a PM the same day u asked me about, but never got a reply from you.
     
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  19. BIGBIGBIGMamas

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    I've done that a couple of times now.
    And the response has been the same "Nothing peculiar going on from this side.."

    like "noxon66" I've noticed in the past month conversions have been the worst.

    I'm not sweating either way, it's all passive.

    If it doesn't pick up (or I get some constructive input from support...)
    I'll simply move on.



     
  20. g0rdonGekko

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    To be honest, I experienced EXACTLY THE SAME SITUATION!!!!
    I had good conversions for weeks, like 1:14 and after I had contact with support because they wanted to know what Im doing I now have conversions of about 1:200...