Is anyone here actually making money through end-consumers?

yaleinnovator said:
There are people here who make good money. Back in my PPC days I was apart of teams who made 10k-20k+ revenue monthly here on Blackhat. All the tools are here for you to start racking in your cash, just think big and come up with creative ways to realistically make money.
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How were these money made? I mean who paid your team in the end? Was it the end user? Shoutouts?
 
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tinply said:
Botting is bad. Period. Even if you're not breaking ToS per se and getting banned, it will catch up to you. Instagram does NOT like follow/unfollow methods, and almost every single account I've seen botting follow/unfollow gets limited eventually. Which means no explore, you have to keep following/unfollowing. It's a crap method, trash it and get in some Telegram like/engagement round groups.



That's pretty rare afaik. Most people fail and fail hard with OGads. But anyway, I was talking about building accounts, not churn and burn CPA accounts.
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So, If I stop follow/unfollow, how long it takes for my account to appear again on explore page?
 
Jansson said:
How were these money made? I mean who paid your team in the end? Was it the end user? Shoutouts?
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It was a pay per click (PPC) campaign on social media. It was an undercover project called the Phoenix with me and two other well known black hatters here.

Pay Per Click is when you get a very small amount of money per click but you don't have to do PPC or CPA you can use this for making money in real businesses. In your particular question for an online store, you just need to accurately target your target customer, and assuming you have all of the other things right: like good content and a good product in your store, you can start winning.
 
MeatEater said:
Yeah but you could combine botting (in the beginning) with powerlikes/shoutouts, no? For me it looks like a faster way to start with botting than without one.
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That just means your mindset is too narrow, how many people do you think grow their accounts without bots?
 
imGrej said:
That just means your mindset is too narrow, how many people do you think grow their accounts without bots?
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As I said in another thread I am more than happy to pay my way into Powerlike groups. But when I ask you or others I keep getting ignored...
 
MeatEater said:
As I said in another thread I am more than happy to pay my way into Powerlike groups. But when I ask you or others I keep getting ignored...
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Because paying your way would:

1. Only get you into groups that accept bribes, AKA the groups you don't want to be in

2. Would put you in a position where you don't have any of the knowledge the other people have

3. Undervalue the integrity of a lot of "premium" groups if others start accepting payments to let people in.

Just don't pay your way into a group, there's a reason they have requirements.
 
tinply said:
Botting is bad. Period. Even if you're not breaking ToS per se and getting banned, it will catch up to you. Instagram does NOT like follow/unfollow methods, and almost every single account I've seen botting follow/unfollow gets limited eventually. Which means no explore, you have to keep following/unfollowing. It's a crap method, trash it and get in some Telegram like/engagement round groups.
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Forgive me as I'm quite new to this, but isn't the follow/unfollow route like the only way when starting off?I've been in engagement groups a few days now, and all I'm getting is more likes (obviously).
Most of my followers still come from follow/unfollow, so I decided recently to try a bot (MP). Imo, it seems more effective than manual, as I can now specify who to target and so, increase follow-back %.

Would love some more insight on this, as I've seen many both for and against follow/unfollow.
 
imGrej said:
Because paying your way would:

1. Only get you into groups that accept bribes, AKA the groups you don't want to be in

2. Would put you in a position where you don't have any of the knowledge the other people have

3. Undervalue the integrity of a lot of "premium" groups if others start accepting payments to let people in.

Just don't pay your way into a group, there's a reason they have requirements.
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This is advice I can do something with. Thank you.
 
DemiGod100 said:
Forgive me as I'm quite new to this, but isn't the follow/unfollow route like the only way when starting off?I've been in engagement groups a few days now, and all I'm getting is more likes (obviously).
Most of my followers still come from follow/unfollow, so I decided recently to try a bot (MP). Imo, it seems more effective than manual, as I can now specify who to target and so, increase follow-back %.

Would love some more insight on this, as I've seen many both for and against follow/unfollow.
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I guess its the easiest/most effective way ratio, but not the "only way". The question is if you can use it as a way to give you an initial boost, and if eventually does the effect of not showing up in the explore page wear off, or the account is just screwed forever.
 
MIvanov98 said:
I am starting to think the same lol.. I have an account with 110k and another one with 50k and I'm not making anything lol
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People like this, I have to ask. Do you just sit and wait for people to give you money because you have a big account or do you actually try to reach out and put yourself out there?
 
mitussj said:
building accounts without follow-unfollow isn't possible for a complete newbie (who isn't into big groups) and say even if you are a 5k account and you're into few of those telegram groups having 1.5k users you won't see impressive growths. All those do will be like 300-400 likes to your pic with almost none going viral (unless its very clickbait one), you will mere gain +25-50 followers per day. Botting can be done for smaller accounts to breakeven if you know what you are doing. then just ditch that account and grow another baby one.
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I've got a question for you, what is ogads? how do i earn from it? 25k account can be good profitable? thanks for response.
 
Most of my methods / projects involve products and end consumers, albeit some are electronic.

My main PPC campaign right now - an actual product is being sold, but its still CPA for me, getting paid for action, the action is just a CC Sale.

I sell e-books and paperback books on Amazon (small scale), which both involve delivering an end product (a book).

Most of the CPA offers I have plans for involve real products / subscriptions.

However that doesn't mean thats your only option, there are so many legit signup CPAs. When it comes to most content locking spam and IG methods alot of the time it is scammy stuff, but there is a market for everything.
 
imGrej said:
You will never see a successful Instagrammer telling you to use bots. Go figure.
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Just to make sure we are all on the same page - to be in an engagement group of any size and be active in it, you need a bot to deliver that massive number of likes, correct?
 
wookie85 said:
Just to make sure we are all on the same page - to be in an engagement group of any size and be active in it, you need a bot to deliver that massive number of likes, correct?
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No, lots of people do rounds manually
 
Yeah, I'm not going to touch any market that is heavily infested with bot "users"
 
spure said:
People like this, I have to ask. Do you just sit and wait for people to give you money because you have a big account or do you actually try to reach out and put yourself out there?
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I've tried contacting over 100 brands and maybe 1 - 2 replied only. Tried shopify selling items still didn't work.
 
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