I need some advice guys (my competitor is a moron)

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

There’s a person (who is probably also a member of this forum) that made it his GOAL to remove me from YouTube. (I mean my comments that I MANUALLY post).

So we pretty much promote similar offers and he’s on a mission to not allow me to get traffic by simply mass reporting/spamming my accounts nonstop. Everytime I post a comment, there he is reporting me and my comments simply disappear. Also, I think he's using some sort of software to do it...

Now, my thinking is if we both do this then we both lose right? That's clearly NOT what he's thinking tho.

I told him to stop doing it multiple times, and even tried doing things to see if he would reconsider but he just doesn't care... To the point where I'm already thinking maybe I need to do the same to him. I have a developer who's ready to develop a bot for me to mass report/flag him... But who wins in this situation? This is not what I want obviously because I know the kind of money there is out there to get.

I'm just trying to see if there's a way for me to perhaps stop him from removing me, but I can't think of anything at this point. Again, I'm ok with competitors who simply outrank me. It just motivates me to come back stronger, but when they do things to try to remove you from the game I kinda have a problem with that.

What do you guys think I should do?

Deleted member 658642 · Mar 17, 2020

What kind of footprints are you leaving behind that he could use a bot to just take all of your comments down? Are you both trying to use the same video lists?

GringoMonkey · Mar 17, 2020

For some people it is a zero sum game.

If he does not win then he would rather destroy it so nobody does.

You cannot reason with people like that.

BassTrackerBoats · Mar 17, 2020

What country are you guys in?

Daddykins · Mar 17, 2020

greenmusic said:
There’s a person (who is probably also a member of this forum) that made it his GOAL to remove me from YouTube. (I mean my comments that I MANUALLY post).

So we pretty much promote similar offers and he’s on a mission to not allow me to get traffic by simply mass reporting/spamming my accounts nonstop. Everytime I post a comment, there he is reporting me and my comments simply disappear. Also, I think he's using some sort of software to do it...

Now, my thinking is if we both do this then we both lose right? That's clearly NOT what he's thinking tho.

I told him to stop doing it multiple times, and even tried doing things to see if he would reconsider but he just doesn't care... To the point where I'm already thinking maybe I need to do the same to him. I have a developer who's ready to develop a bot for me to mass report/flag him... But who wins in this situation? This is not what I want obviously because I know the kind of money there is out there to get.

I'm just trying to see if there's a way for me to perhaps stop him from removing me, but I can't think of anything at this point. Again, I'm ok with competitors who simply outrank me. It just motivates me to come back stronger, but when they do things to try to remove you from the game I kinda have a problem with that.

What do you guys think I should do?

I don’t know much about YouTube so take it with a grain of salt.

If you know he’s doing it, then spam the fuck out of him. There’s no white hat or black hat when it comes to competition playing dirty IMO.

It’s basic stuff. He’s screwing with you because he thinks you can’t or won’t do anything back.

Report, then negotiate with him. Or just learn to 1 up him so much that he stays away for good.

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

RushingWind said:
What kind of footprints are you leaving behind that he could use a bot to just take all of your comments down? Are you both trying to use the same video lists?

I'm leaving ALL kinds of footprints since I'm not changing ips or nothing. I know he will always be able to see me regardless. And yes we post on the same type of vids.

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

GringoMonkey said:
For some people it is a zero sum game.

If he does not win then he would rather destroy it so nobody does.

You cannot reason with people like that.

I agree with you. It's sad.

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

BassTrackerBoats said:
What country are you guys in?

USA

BassTrackerBoats · Mar 17, 2020

greenmusic said:
USA

If you can prove it is him you have a legitimate federal case.

Leader777 · Mar 17, 2020

What a toxic dude ... I really can't talk even 1 sec to people like thoes. Btw can't u just change and promote on other videos???

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

Daddykins said:
I don’t know much about YouTube so take it with a grain of salt.

If you know he’s doing it, then spam the fuck out of him. There’s no white hat or black hat when it comes to competition playing dirty IMO.

It’s basic stuff. He’s screwing with you because he thinks you can’t or won’t do anything back.

Report, then negotiate with him. Or just learn to 1 up him so much that he stays away for good.

I know for a fact he's doing it. And yes, I think he feels like I won't do the same back.
I'll get through this tho.

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

Razen666 said:
What a toxic dude ... I really can't talk even 1 sec to people like thoes. Btw can't u just change and promote on other videos???

Sadly, not all niches work the same with this method. Also, I do other videos too but the main ones drive the most traffic which happen to be the vids he’s trying to control.

The thing about it that gets to me is this has been happening for about 2 months now.

I’ve been trying to do what I can but at this point I think is time to play the same dirty game he’s playing.

Leader777 · Mar 17, 2020

greenmusic said:
Sadly, not all niches work the same with this method. Also, I do other videos too but the main ones drive the most traffic which happen to be the vids he’s trying to control.

idk what to say buddy ! u reminded me before i had a niche that i was working with since 2017 and last year someone was doing some of my competitors was doing some fagg shit like this so i got the fuck out of it just because i don't like dealing with toxic people... the videos were making me 5k per month. So u don't know where u may find another gem just keep looking.

greenmusic said:
The thing about it that gets to me is this has been happening for about 2 months now.

Are u sure it's not your ex gf

Ruhcoon · Mar 17, 2020

BassTrackerBoats said:
If you can prove it is him you have a legitimate federal case.

Is there a criminal case in the U.S. because of this little thing?

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

Razen666 said:
idk what to say buddy ! u reminded me before i had a niche that i was working with since 2017 and last year someone was doing some of my competitors was doing some fagg shit like this so i got the fuck out of it just because i don't like dealing with toxic people... the videos were making me 5k per month. So u don't know where u may find another gem just keep looking.

Are u sure it's not your ex gf

haha. That’s funny.

I’m definitely trying to move on and find better methods to generate traffic. I honestly just wanted to milk this YT thing for a little longer.

Leader777 · Mar 17, 2020

greenmusic said:
haha. That’s funny.

I’m definitely trying to move on and find better methods to generate traffic. I honestly just wanted to milk this YT thing for a little longer.

I feel you since youtube it's a good method to get good quality traffic

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

BassTrackerBoats said:
If you can prove it is him you have a legitimate federal case.

I know I’m mad about this idiot, but I don’t think I would ever take it this far lol. I mean this is just a temporary “hustle” for me. I just don’t want to allow this person to be the one who determines what I can or can not do.

Belich707 · Mar 17, 2020

Do not give up. He started a dirty game. You have to go to victory. I cheered for you

Finnishhacker · Mar 17, 2020

greenmusic said:
I'm leaving ALL kinds of footprints since I'm not changing ips or nothing. I know he will always be able to see me regardless. And yes we post on the same type of vids.

I might be wrong but, since you're saying that you use same ip, is it maybe possible that youtube is flagging your comments automatically based on your ip/website, and this might not be really a fight with competition. Try to change ur domain/ip/account to see if it still happens

greenmusic · Mar 17, 2020

Finnishhacker said:
I might be wrong but, since you're saying that you use same ip, is it maybe possible that youtube is flagging your comments automatically based on your ip/website, and this might not be really a fight with competition. Try to change ur domain/ip/account to see if it still happens

I know it’s him because my comments stay up on all other vids (where he’s not). Whatever he’s using detects comments and flags them and if you try to dislike his comments (which is one of the things I’ve tried doing to make him stop) then he simply posts new comments within minutes.

He definitely has a software to mass report and to re-Post.

But he replied to a few of my comments where I tried to get him to stop so I know he’s constantly checking on his stuff... He actually finds it funny.

This is very disappointing to say the least. But I’ll make a move soon.

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