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I need everyones opinion on BHW!! please read this thread

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Matzedoon, Dec 12, 2016.

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Would you be interested in a tool like this ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    22.2%
  3. I'm not sure

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  1. Matzedoon

    Matzedoon Newbie

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    I need your opinion if there is any interest in the following software (All in one solution for PBN building and managing) :

    A software that will :

    Scrape for expired domains on any given keyword / website.
    Display the statistics of the domains it found and are available for registration.

    If interested you can just select the domain and it will.

    Create random profile
    Create random email
    Purchase the domain and hosting specified by user input (or selected from scraper)
    configure and set domain + hosting and auto-install wordpress and / or other one click install tool
    Set everything inside your new site (about me / title of site / description etc. of new site)

    third will be a list to see all your credentials it created (emails / profiles and site login credentials / ip's)

    Managing option :

    create new posts / tags / categories form the software and submit to selected / created sites.
    track if new post url's are crawled / indexed in google.

    Basically this is an idea that IF the response here on BHW is good / high we will build it
    we trying to test if there's a market for this, and we are also interested (if there is an interest in this at all) at what price point you would want this to be available.

    What are you willing to spend on a tool that can do this on a monthly basis.
    What are you willing to spend on a tool that can do this on a lifetime basis.


    **Note most captcha's / content creators will work with this trough their API system**
    So this CAN be a set and forget PBN builder.
    Another good thing to note is each new created email / account on most hosting usually have special deals for hosting / domains (example godaddy first .com domains is 1$)
    This basically can already be a return on investment, especially if you don't have to do any hard work. Just import your domains from scraper or self found domains, click a button, and manage your created site through our system.

    Please reply through the poll and add what price you would be willing to spend on this monthly / lifetime basis.
     
  2. dano2

    dano2 Regular Member

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    @Matzedoon of course, if it does the same (if not more) as other software but for a low price.
     
  3. JamesBlake

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    What makes it truly unique?
     
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  4. efastvps

    efastvps Newbie

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    Well,

    Everyone that's into pbn creation knows how much time and effort you need to get it done properly, so from my point of view if this software is able to emulate a human task in a perfect mode why not? I mean, if its a set and forget then its something that i would be prepared to invest in, but when i mean set and forget i mean that it has to do everything without bugs and having to hassle too much, now how much does it cost to ask someone to build a pbn for you? I have seen prices next to 300/400$ for a 20 domain pbn, so according to me the correct price for a similar software would be:

    Monthly license -> Round about 100$, someone will say..you mad? No i am not, just think about the potential earnings? Start a pbn service and charge what 150$?200? per sale, Well, with 2 sales you have paid the software each month.

    Lifetime license -> I wouldn't ask less than 500/600$ for a piece of software like this, with 3/4 sales you have paid it, and the rest is just pure earnings.

    As long as there is support and updates then your good to go.

    There are many software out there that find domains, but 1 tool that does everything? Search...register domains..register hosting...install wordpress ecc...Cmon this is next to fantastic.
    My first pbn cost me 1 week of work just to find the domains, and then hosting and all other garbage, with this tool overnight i would of created it.

    My vote is yes, and please note my profile because if you need beta testers im in 100%
     
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  5. laur.laurix

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    It will leave a huge footprint. Randomizing all the features u mentioned will be a coding nightmare.
     
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  6. shukritobi

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    so this is pbn on crack?
     
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  7. Matzedoon

    Matzedoon Newbie

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    Sure, but can you elaborate on "what" price you think you are willing to pay for such a software?

    Yes, you can say that... could you also please tell us "if interested" at what price point your thinking.. Monthly / lifetime?

    Can you please explain what footprint this will leave ? The person I will work with has already a software online "not sure if I may say which one" but it's already building web2.0's etc.. on autopilot.
    with email creation on auto-pilot, submitting etc.. So the only thing that we would need to do is take part of that software (which in my opinion is already 60% this project) and just change the course to PBN's.

    Anyways more interested in how you think that this will leave a huge footprint? It basically does all the things to avoid footprints. (fake profiles / email creation) on auto-pilot (to avoid a footprint).
    after that it's easy to build a similar feature like EBN where you can select random plugins and themes, to even further avoid similarities (which I didn't mention above).

    And yes, it might be a coding nightmare but the coding nightmare is not that much in the software, it's in the script building (where the existing software already offers a script builder where you can currently learn to register on new web2.0 platforms)
    I think the scripting will be difficult and time consuming. But if the software is there, there will be nothing else left to do than to keep all scripts updated, add new ones (new hosting/domain providers).

    Another thing to add is, if the hosting / provider is using cpanel, that's already half the work if we already have in the database another cpanel provider.
    the unique part will be the register / purchase part, after that it will be the same.

    So what I'm saying here is, the scripting part will be navigating trough the provider and purchasing the domains, if we cover the top panels (cpanel / directadmin / plesk) it's already automatic after that.
    Unless they perform and update, or have different versions running of them, but im sure ones we have all these saved and stored, it could be as easy as selecting what panel they use, at what version and let it run.

    Also to prevent any problems I think the system can easily check if on some platforms it fails to create a purchase or install wordpress. After that we can instantly disable these till there's a fix for it so that it will run smoothly for every other user.
    Anyways.. I don't really see a footprint here that can be caught by the company you try to hide it from, which is google.

    In what step do you think google is on to us? what footprint would this leave ?
    Also if your interested please reply to us what you would be willing to spend on a monthly basis and lifetime basis.

    thanks for all the replies guys, keep them coming so that we know to start on this project or not ! :)
     
  8. somedevil

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    If it actually does all of that, exactly as you describe, without glitches, then I am sure plenty of people will be interested
     
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  9. Matzedoon

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    I bought his software on black-friday to create web2.0's, when i found out about his scriptbuilder and saw how easy it can be to create new web2.0's on it, this idea popped up...
    I already build PBN's and just thought of how easy it can be if this tool he got "which has basically the basics covered by 60%" how great it would be to build PBN's...

    So I already knew that this is wanted by anyone who builds pbn's since i build pbn's myself (and i can't wait to get this software for myself), I just needed to prove the owner of the current web2.0 tool that there is an interest in this and that there is a market for it.

    So please keep these comments coming, and don't forget to vote :)
     
  10. Conor

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    It sounds cool. Personally though I hate monthly fees on software. Rather just charge a lifetime fee of like $250 or something.
     
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    Interesting concept. There are softwares that combined do what you propose, scraping on one, expired domain plugin, etc. So you should probably have a look at existing solutions and improve upon them. It might come out an interesting product. Good luck!
     
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  12. Matzedoon

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    Hey, I totally agree with you on this, I hate monthly fee's too.
    But now that I'm on the other side of the software, i can't imagine what happens if 50-100 or even more people sign up, and we reach a point of "no new users" yet we would still need to update all scripts and build new scripts with new providers, and update the existing ones if they get outdated. So a combination of both would probably be the best.

    Or.. another solution would be to offer 6month / 1 year licenses for a discounted price. but I can only imagine what would happen if we set a lifetime only subscription, and the software is live for several years.. no new signups and you would still need to update and keep it alive for 2-3-4 and even more years. (unless google decides to devalue PBN's too, which will never happen, that's their core algorithme)


    Exactly! I agree totally with you, and I already use a lot of those "scrapers / services who provide lists of expired domains / PBN hosting companies etc.."
    But there's always room for improvement, having a tool that can save you tons of time in finding,registering, purchasing and managing PBN's with a few clicks, is just something that isn't there right now.

    Thanks for the replies all, please keep them coming as the more people have a positive response, the higher chance we will get this project going ! :)
     
  13. Matzedoon

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    what this makes unique is that it's "almost" a set and forget PBN scraper / builder / manager.

    It will find expired domains, register domains for you, (with random profiles / emails etc..) purchase them, set them for you so that you can start right away with posting your articles and links on them (also through the software).
    It's an all-in-one PBN software. combination of scrapers + managers, + the no hassle of creating fake accounts / emails to register them.
    Basically if you would combine these features with random themes / plugins to be able selected from the tool as well, it will be a footprint-less tool that saves you countless of hours...

    I think this is what it truly makes unique. :)
    Please vote, and let us know in the comment section what you think, postive or negative, we need to see if there is interest in it :) thanks all
     
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    Great click bait title, if just a little misleading
     
  15. Matzedoon

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    It's a shoutout for everyone's opinion, and the thread is about the opinion of a tool, placed in the SEO tools section :)

    Not sure what is misleading here, but i was awaiting a comment off-topic like this... it was a matter of time.
     
  16. Matzedoon

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    is IF a typo to it? or is it a real compliment on the title as a joke xD im sorry if it's the second part hahah
     
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    It was a compliment in a sort of sarcastic way LOL!
     
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    I would go for no as my answer. Building good PBN"s means manual work that no software will do for me.
     
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  19. Matzedoon

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    I agree, but if you could build yourself a script / bot / tool, that automated the part where it makes you feel like a robot, you would probably do it. I know I would...
    there's nothing fun on manual creating profiles / emails / setting up sites... (maybe the first 2-3, but when you need to build and manage a 50-100-200 PBNetwork...)
    than keeping them organized in your excel sheet, or whatever software / tool you use to manage your site.

    I would like to know what part you think needs to be done manually in order to build good PBN's.
    thanks for the answer, I think just by communicating these things I could get it one step closer to a improve the idea that I have, rather than just start building it with a team.
    Please keep the comments coming, idea's, why you want it / or why not.. so that we can consider starting it up :)
     
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    Sound awesome, I'm interested
     
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