I honestly see you, W130SN or whatever, skyrocketseo, and T0mmy, on every single thread simply showing arrogance and conveying a sense of disrespect in all of your posts. As you can guess from all of my posts, i dont know a single thing about SEO. Im absolutely shit at SEO, and im still signing as many clients as i want. (People like you when offended, first thing they do is pullup all posts of the newbie). I probably couldnt rank a website named: sfkjhdfhjkdfhjdsjkf. Thats how s*it i am. Still i am getting really big seo clients directly from Adwords, and some other marketing methods. I usually convert a SEO lead within $30-$40 on adwords. In about $40 , i get about 20 clicks, and always atleast one converting. Op, and people like him/her need to understand the United STates / UK/ Canada adwords market is not the only best converting audience. My hint is start looking in other countries. ANd now i will be blamed for trying to sell my shi**y leads/ method. So i want to categorically say that i will never disclose my method, nor will i sell it. For stats i run ads in 6 countries, all tier 2 and 3 countries. And in one day i get about 20 new seo clients on average. Each client pays anywhere between $299 - $999. I just spam their money site with GSA link. No tiering nothing. I also just send a professional looking SEO report weekly with some bs generated from the free SEO scripts on codecanyon. I also send the thousnads of links generated in the SEO report, and it looks like i actually did sh*t. So in conclusion, op and all others alike, dont fall for this retarded bs from these so called forum veterans. I will share a way i used to get about 2-3 clients before i found my new marketing methods. Go to dailychanges dot com. Click new domains, download the CSVs of some random dates ranging 3 months back ish. Download about 5 of these CSV's. CSVs will include domains expiring also, delete the domains that have the word "delete" next to them. NOw you have about 20000 domains all with the text "new" to their right. You have 5 files with 20000 domains each. These are 100000 domains about. Load them up on a whois extractor. You will only get 10,000 emails, which are not protected by whois protection. Now these 10,000 emails , write a decent email , nicely templated, and send a blast . Make gmail accounts about 20 ish. Send 500 emails on each using the atomic email sender, download the cracked if you cant afford it. After this blast you will have plenty of people asking you to remove them , and some people wanting to find out more. I remember about 5 months ago, i used to get about 2 or 3 clients daily with this method. Im waiting for your thirsty comeback netmoney1.