How To Stop Worrying About Using PBN - PERMANENTLY

tiiberius · Jul 5, 2017

Minnehaha said:
Cool, 1 premium domain seems like a better investment of $1000 than stuff like BHW link packages or toolsets like GSA SER

Yep. I personally stopped using automated tools like 2 years ago and never looked back.

I outsource it here and there for some CAB projects but that's it.

For $1000 you could get like 2 very juice ones with 200-400 HQ unique RDs.

Make sure to treat them like family members to reduce the de-indexation rate to minimum. (family members you like)

Good luck.

aadelmalik · Jul 5, 2017

So how do you maintain a good anchor profile? I have a network of 50 PBNs with over 250 - 900RD each. Yes they do work like magic, but I rarely use them because I still need 100+ PBNs with lower metrics just to diversify the anchor text.

Do you have any other methods to diversify your anchor text?

rickydzine · Jul 6, 2017

Don't use exact match, maybe once but you never really need it more than that and it's usually useless beyond the first use. Link like a website naturally would. So instead of "Fatloss pills" a better anchor would be "Get Premium Quality Fatloss Pills With Free Shipping From Fatlosspills.com" It incorporates so much more, looks so very natural and will help you rank for any additional terms that can be picked out from the sentence.

tiiberius · Jul 6, 2017

aadelmalik said:
So how do you maintain a good anchor profile? I have a network of 50 PBNs with over 250 - 900RD each. Yes they do work like magic, but I rarely use them because I still need 100+ PBNs with lower metrics just to diversify the anchor text.

Do you have any other methods to diversify your anchor text?

You can actually diversify with them directly.

It's quite beneficial because using only keyword rich anchors can be dangerous.

Mix of brand, naked URLs and maybe even LSI can do wonders.

The beauty of there sites as you surelly know is that you don't need many of them.

So for example 2x Ema (exact match anchor) + 18 other anchors. That Ema will be only 10% in the overall profile. And it's completely fine (altho some might say it's too high) because the total link count is so low.

The lower you go the more aggressive you can get.

Maybe 1x Ema + 9 other anchors.

Then of course there are other link types that can be used for diversification. I personally like HQ blog comments, web 2.0s and QnA sites like Quora.

rickydzine said:
Don't use exact match, maybe once but you never really need it more than that and it's usually useless beyond the first use. Link like a website naturally would. So instead of "Fatloss pills" a better anchor would be "Get Premium Quality Fatloss Pills With Free Shipping From Fatlosspills.com" It incorporates so much more, looks so very natural and will help you rank for any additional terms that can be picked out from the sentence.

I agree with that anchor text example but how did you come up to conclusion that we should avoid Ema or only use it one time?

Natural = what top 5 guys are doing

And in some niches you simply have to go aggressive or you won't even nudge. Simple because Google treats every single search query differently.

TommyGann · Mar 9, 2018

interesting concept. I wish I had money to actually apply it tho

does this still work in 2018?!

darulez · Mar 11, 2018

Glad I jumped of the PBN route a few months ago. After I learned some methods to get 25€ for related Blogposts links ..

memme · Mar 11, 2018

A questions that is going through my head is how can all the PBN provider on the marketplace here offer such low prices including content?
If you use the coupons on their offers you can get 20 PBN links with 500+words articles for less than 100$.
A article with 500 words costs $5 when you buy it. How can they offer it like this. Maybe they have som bull prices but then they maybe get a article for $3 what is 60$ just for the content. Makes 40$ to pay the hosting, domains, pbn maintenance and someone handling the orders like order content, post the content, giving user support etc...

Can someone clarify?

Unreliable Witness · Mar 11, 2018

memme said:
A questions that is going through my head is how can all the PBN provider on the marketplace here offer such low prices including content?
If you use the coupons on their offers you can get 20 PBN links with 500+words articles for less than 100$.
A article with 500 words costs $5 when you buy it. How can they offer it like this. Maybe they have som bull prices but then they maybe get a article for $3 what is 60$ just for the content. Makes 40$ to pay the hosting, domains, pbn maintenance and someone handling the orders like order content, post the content, giving user support etc...

Can someone clarify?

High volume of sales combined with low cost content. The first few sales (without crazy offers) pay for the domain and hosting. After that, the price can be discounted because the only real cost is content.

T2tkid · Mar 11, 2018

darulez said:
Glad I jumped of the PBN route a few months ago. After I learned some methods to get 25€ for related Blogposts links ..

These are from REAL websites and a one time payment?

memme · Mar 11, 2018

Unreliable Witness said:
High volume of sales combined with low cost content. The first few sales (without crazy offers) pay for the domain and hosting. After that, the price can be discounted because the only real cost is content.

But the costs for content are about min. half of the prices they charge. Then remove the tax, maintenance costs, support etc....they do not offer a order for just <$10 in reward after all costs

tiiberius · Mar 12, 2018

TommyGann said:
interesting concept. I wish I had money to actually apply it tho

does this still work in 2018?!

Yep. And it will be stronger and stronger as the time passes.

darulez said:
Glad I jumped of the PBN route a few months ago. After I learned some methods to get 25€ for related Blogposts links ..

Hey man,

Interesting. Feel free to share more details

(via PM if you don't want publicly)

memme said:
A questions that is going through my head is how can all the PBN provider on the marketplace here offer such low prices including content?
If you use the coupons on their offers you can get 20 PBN links with 500+words articles for less than 100$.
A article with 500 words costs $5 when you buy it. How can they offer it like this. Maybe they have som bull prices but then they maybe get a article for $3 what is 60$ just for the content. Makes 40$ to pay the hosting, domains, pbn maintenance and someone handling the orders like order content, post the content, giving user support etc...

Can someone clarify?

Many one-time cheap PBN link offers I encountered were like this:

- content is spun not written
- domains for the network are expired domains where only cost is registration
- SEO hosting or cheap $0.5-$1 a month hosting
- OBL 30+ per site
- basic setup
- no maintenance
- support can be handled by a hired VA at $100 a month

With this approach 3-4 sites at a maximum OBL will cover the costs.

Only about 15% of posts I ordered 6 months ago are still indexed. I mean the sites themselves.

That's why I do monthly. I wouldn't be able to provide the same quality at one-time.

Let me know if you guys have some "secret" to cut the costs tho

darulez · Mar 16, 2018

No problem. Watch the lab or some other outreach course - bargain for cheap link placements.

I give it a twist to save time. But that only works on DE.

ATM I only do it on recurring high price affiliate offers. No Amazon crap

tiiberius · Mar 19, 2018

darulez said:
No problem. Watch the lab or some other outreach course - bargain for cheap link placements.

I give it a twist to save time. But that only works on DE.

ATM I only do it on recurring high price affiliate offers. No Amazon crap

Interesting. Thanks for the feedback.

Do you mean The Lab? By Matt Diggity?

darulez · Mar 19, 2018

Yes.
His stuff is on point. Rest in the course is just rehearsed bull.

Can believe I found videos of GSA and spinners

jinjardean · Mar 19, 2018

Good advice, thanks.

fleazerbond · Mar 19, 2018

So basically, build fewer but more powerful PBNs right?

Chamdi · Mar 20, 2018

So if I have 10 good domains with high RDs and I link them to mymoneysite.com/buythis, am I not done with those 10 good domains for mymoneysite.com? Or do you keep linking to mymoneysite.com from the same domains over and over? Won't that be a risk?

tiiberius · Mar 20, 2018

darulez said:
Yes.
His stuff is on point. Rest in the course is just rehearsed bull.

Can believe I found videos of GSA and spinners

Thanks.

I guess it's closed now tho right? You bought it during launch?

jinjardean said:
Good advice, thanks.

You're welcome.

fleazerbond said:
So basically, build fewer but more powerful PBNs right?

Yes, and treat them as family members (the ones you like)

Chamdi said:
So if I have 10 good domains with high RDs and I link them to mymoneysite.com/buythis, am I not done with those 10 good domains for mymoneysite.com? Or do you keep linking to mymoneysite.com from the same domains over and over? Won't that be a risk?

I usually links to maximum of 4 pages. Homepage, random supporting page and 2x money page. After that I don't see much effect from the same RD

p4ppy · May 1, 2019

does this still work in 2019? i heard some big nettworks here got hit

tiiberius · May 6, 2019

p4ppy said:
does this still work in 2019? i heard some big nettworks here got hit

I know about one, not sure how are other holding up.

The method still works of course. Even more so now actually.

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