How To Grow On Youtube 2018

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So I've been on the is forum for months seeking the answer to effectively growing my youtube. I know celebrities from where I'm from that literally came from nothing to something almost over night due to youtube (2011 to current).

Now I have good content that I'm ready to upload on YouTube but there's conflicting errors that I'm sure everyone is aware of (YouTube Update Mid October 2018 Early November 2018) which is deleting views, likes, comments etc. literally hours after they've shown up. I've watched multiple channels in the niche of music that post during that update and after the update who views, likes, comments, etc. didn't drop or anything. In which one of the artist is where I'm from and caught a buzz from nothing. Meaning youtube put him where he is today and I want to know how.

Tried Method

I uploaded my video and instantly sent 5000 HR USA Views 1000 Likes and 15 Comments which started within minutes. The video rank #3 and #5 for the main keyword (which was a high search volume and mid-high competition keyword info via VidIQ) for about 24 hours. Then the video disappeared.

Confusion

So looking at different small and big channels that are ranking for KW's, I'm wrecking my brain because I can't figure out how they're ranking and staying ranked. It's so much info on here that its hard to tell what works and what don't. So can someone please point me in the right direction.

SN (Side Note)

There's been some people on here saying use backlinks to get to the point where you no looking have to buy services for your video (thats it'll be organic). I've yet to see that actually work. I spent enough I'm just looking to spend effectively.
 
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TMac88 said:
So I've been on the is forum for months seeking the answer to effectively growing my youtube. I know celebrities from where I'm from that literally came from nothing to something almost over night due to youtube (2011 to current).

Now I have good content that I'm ready to upload on YouTube but there's conflicting errors that I'm sure everyone is aware of (YouTube Update Mid October 2018 Early November 2018) which is deleting views, likes, comments etc. literally hours after they've shown up. I've watched multiple channels in the niche of music that post during that update and after the update who views, likes, comments, etc. didn't drop or anything. In which one of the artist is where I'm from and caught a buzz from nothing. Meaning youtube put him where he is today and I want to know how.

Tried Method

I uploaded my video and instantly sent 5000 HR USA Views 1000 Likes and 15 Comments which started within minutes. The video rank #3 and #5 for the main keyword (which was a high search volume and mid-high competition keyword info via VidIQ) for about 24 hours. Then the video disappeared.

Confusion

So looking at different small and big channels that are ranking for KW's, I'm wrecking my brain because I can't figure out how they're ranking and staying ranked. It's so much info on here that its hard to tell what works and what don't. So can someone please point me in the right direction.

SN (Side Note)

There's been some people on here saying use backlinks to get to the point where you no looking have to buy services for your video (thats it'll be organic). I've yet to see that actually work. I spent enough I'm just looking to spend effectively.
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Backlinks and also embeds as well are needed for videos to stick in their rankings.

Press releases probably work short term too.

Social signals give a big boost.
 
lbhbochc said:
Backlinks and also embeds as well are needed for videos to stick in their rankings.

Press releases probably work short term too.

Social signals give a big boost.
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Where do I get good backlinks from?
 
TMac88 said:
Tried Method

I uploaded my video and instantly sent 5000 HR USA Views 1000 Likes and 15 Comments which started within minutes. The video rank #3 and #5 for the main keyword (which was a high search volume and mid-high competition keyword info via VidIQ) for about 24 hours. Then the video disappeared.
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So, you can't find what's wrong with this? You answered it yourself. You instantly sent something, and then nothing. Think what happens when you publish a post to Instagram, or Imgur. You use #hashtags, you earn visibility with it, and post is done after a certain time, gone. So, you can't just instantly send boost and say I'm done with this shit, right. You need to slow it down. Add 50k views over one month, find slow views offers, and add 200 comments at least. If your video is interesting, it will receive enough of attention. If YouTube sees good view retention, engagement, your video will stay ranked for a long time. So, depending of a niche, you will have to push it for a month (example) to stay ranked good. That's it, good luck.
 
Depends also on the niche - ex. a local SEO niche for plumbers wont have nearly enough likes or views as some niches, so if the count or velocity is off it's gonna draw some red flags - what do other videos in your niche have in terms of likes, views, comments and dislikes?
 
I just started a YouTube channel over a month ago and it is doing pretty well. I have not sent any views, likes, or comments yet but I wanted to see how it would do on its own first. After your keywords and title is optimized are you sharing the video on other forums and social media platforms. Thumbnails can be the reason someone clocks on your video. Sending views and likes to a new video will get the video ghosted or repeated fast because that is unusual behavior for a new video to receive so many views, likes, and comments if that hasn't been the prior history. YouTube is a marathon not a sprint but it can pay big dividends if you exercise patoence.
 
Ok so I'm getting the patience part. But I can't find
BbHhWwVM said:
So, you can't find what's wrong with this? You answered it yourself. You instantly sent something, and then nothing. Think what happens when you publish a post to Instagram, or Imgur. You use #hashtags, you earn visibility with it, and post is done after a certain time, gone. So, you can't just instantly send boost and say I'm done with this shit, right. You need to slow it down. Add 50k views over one month, find slow views offers, and add 200 comments at least. If your video is interesting, it will receive enough of attention. If YouTube sees good view retention, engagement, your video will stay ranked for a long time. So, depending of a niche, you will have to push it for a month (example) to stay ranked good. That's it, good luck.
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So I know a provide that offers 50K views over a one month but the likes system is tricky as well as the comments system. The views even drop after a while but I'm sure people may know about the views in which I'm talking about which is NRV. I guess now what I want to ask is are the NRV views worth spending the money on?

AlejandroAbroad said:
I just started a YouTube channel over a month ago and it is doing pretty well. I have not sent any views, likes, or comments yet but I wanted to see how it would do on its own first. After your keywords and title is optimized are you sharing the video on other forums and social media platforms. Thumbnails can be the reason someone clocks on your video. Sending views and likes to a new video will get the video ghosted or repeated fast because that is unusual behavior for a new video to receive so many views, likes, and comments if that hasn't been the prior history. YouTube is a marathon not a sprint but it can pay big dividends if you exercise patoence.
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I understand you saying that Youtube is a marathon and not a sprint but I was just on youtube this morning and I see Tekashi 6ix9ine just did a interview on the breakfast club and the video is already at 3 mil views and 72k likes and 25k comments in 1 day. I guarantee that the video will never drop in anything. Can that you explain that?
 
The Curator said:
Depends also on the niche - ex. a local SEO niche for plumbers wont have nearly enough likes or views as some niches, so if the count or velocity is off it's gonna draw some red flags - what do other videos in your niche have in terms of likes, views, comments and dislikes?
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I create music so I'm assuming that this is a broad niche. What I'm trying to figure is how to begin growing and gaining a buzz either locally, nationwide or on a worldwide level. I can't seem to find that answer.
 
The days of chucking views etc at YT and hoping it will rank are long gone.
Second pass count will bin off most of the views and kill the video.
Throwing views is a churn and burn technique.
Views can help improve a videos retention but the video needs it's own organic multiple source views to gain long term traction.
View velocity will not help if 99% botted views.
 
N00bby said:
The days of chucking views etc at YT and hoping it will rank are long gone.
Second pass count will bin off most of the views and kill the video.
Throwing views is a churn and burn technique.
Views can help improve a videos retention but the video needs it's own organic multiple source views to gain long term traction.
View velocity will not help if 99% botted views.
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There needs to be a niche viewing service - I'm sure algos think it's strange that someone liking so many random niches is the only type of viewers viewing a particular video - just like google reviews, an account making random reviews for various zips around the country/world wont stick...
 
Ok now that I'm gaining a idea of what to do when I upload a new video, I kind of still feel like there's a few missing steps. @BbHhWwVM suggested that I add 50k views throughout the course of a month along with about 200 comments but what about the other factors until the video starts to gain organic traction. Or are you saying just focus on view as comments.

Then I want to ask whats to these backlinks and embeds that @lbhbochc posted about. Is that something I should look into or surpass. I'm just trying to narrow down to things I should focus on and things I shouldn't because honestly I'm super tired of spending so much money and not getting anywhere. I have great the talent compared to the stuff that being put out here. Just trying to obtain a buzz or something.
 
Exactly....
The Curator said:
There needs to be a niche viewing service - I'm sure algos think it's strange that someone liking so many random niches is the only type of viewers viewing a particular video - just like google reviews, an account making random reviews for various zips around the country/world wont stick...
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Without seeing your videos or your retention it's hard to say. In reality, a lot of the time when someone says they have a well edited video that engages people, on point titles tags and description etc it turns out they have not.

TMac88 said:
Ok now that I'm gaining a idea of what to do when I upload a new video, I kind of still feel like there's a few missing steps. @BbHhWwVM suggested that I add 50k views throughout the course of a month along with about 200 comments but what about the other factors until the video starts to gain organic traction. Or are you saying just focus on view as comments.

Then I want to ask whats to these backlinks and embeds that @lbhbochc posted about. Is that something I should look into or surpass. I'm just trying to narrow down to things I should focus on and things I shouldn't because honestly I'm super tired of spending so much money and not getting anywhere. I have great the talent compared to the stuff that being put out here. Just trying to obtain a buzz or something.
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Or they are targeting keywords their channel has no history for and no likelihood of ranking for.
What are you using to do your keyword research?
 
N00bby said:
Or they are targeting keywords their channel has no history for and no likelihood of ranking for.
What are you using to do your keyword research?
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I'm using VidIQ and Morning Fame
 
TMac88 said:
Ok so I'm getting the patience part. But I can't find

So I know a provide that offers 50K views over a one month but the likes system is tricky as well as the comments system. The views even drop after a while but I'm sure people may know about the views in which I'm talking about which is NRV. I guess now what I want to ask is are the NRV views worth spending the money on?

I understand you saying that Youtube is a marathon and not a sprint but I was just on youtube this morning and I see Tekashi 6ix9ine just did a interview on the breakfast club and the video is already at 3 mil views and 72k likes and 25k comments in 1 day. I guarantee that the video will never drop in anything. Can that you explain that?
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Look, it's about view retention on 1st. So NRV = garbage, of course, do not spend money on such offers. You must have almost full retention. Means, if video is 4min long, your viewers must watch at least 2:50 of it, and YT will reward you with rank. Comments and likes are not so important, but they obviously play some role. Add them slowly as views.

YouTube is giving almost equal chances to all videos uploaded. Think, if YT doesn't give a f for new videos, new creators, they can't do shit, and they just quit their journeys. There is a difference, because old accounts have already uploaded content, subscribers. Do you think that YT gave them anything specific? No. They earned their fame. So, if Conor McGregor decides to open his YT channel, what you think, how fast he would earn a few M of subs? Also, again, the main factor is view retention, fans of 6ix9ine will watch 15 min long video of him. That tells YT to push the video up. They can all dislike it, but still, YT cares about attention, commercials flow, not about positive or negative comments, etc
 
All very true.
Retention relevant to your niche or competitors.
Paid for likes don't stick after the Sept/Oct update.
Its all about the behaviour of the viewer.
So how does a bot behaviour look to Google?
Watches YouTube 24 hours a day.
Likes every video
Comments on every video
Multiply x every type of niche.
Easy behaviour to spot.

There are other ways. Complicated but work.

BbHhWwVM said:
Look, it's about view retention on 1st. So NRV = garbage, of course, do not spend money on such offers. You must have almost full retention. Means, if video is 4min long, your viewers must watch at least 2:50 of it, and YT will reward you with rank. Comments and likes are not so important, but they obviously play some role. Add them slowly as views.

YouTube is giving almost equal chances to all videos uploaded. Think, if YT doesn't give a f for new videos, new creators, they can't do shit, and they just quit their journeys. There is a difference, because old accounts have already uploaded content, subscribers. Do you think that YT gave them anything specific? No. They earned their fame. So, if Conor McGregor decides to open his YT channel, what you think, how fast he would earn a few M of subs? Also, again, the main factor is view retention, fans of 6ix9ine will watch 15 min long video of him. That tells YT to push the video up. They can all dislike it, but still, YT cares about attention, commercials flow, not about positive or negative comments, etc
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Tekashi69 is a well established artist so he has built his following up over time. Social media agencies know that controversy sells and he is known more for his antics than his music. Its true that these artist do get inflated views, likes, and comments but they are well established and it took time to gain that online presence. A regular everyday person is not going to come out the gate with that kind of fire power but if you have quality content that your viewer wants and know how to optimize, your channel can grow very quickly very fast.
 
I see people with huge followings on social media struggle to gain traction on YouTube sometimes.
They all start off at 0, some with 100k plus followers only get a few thousand subs initially and tens of thousands of views.
It takes YouTube a while to pick even that up and start to push that content out to other people who watch similar content.
Once that happens they grow very fast.

One reason is people engage and use the platforms in different ways.

AlejandroAbroad said:
Tekashi69 is a well established artist so he has built his following up over time. Social media agencies know that controversy sells and he is known more for his antics than his music. Its true that these artist do get inflated views, likes, and comments but they are well established and it took time to gain that online presence. A regular everyday person is not going to come out the gate with that kind of fire power but if you have quality content that your viewer wants and know how to optimize, your channel can grow very quickly very fast.
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I think then one good investment is get one cheap and good smm panel and get the first 1k subs, because the youtube show with more frequency videos of channels with more then 1k subs, in my case of my channels this works with me, I had one big increase in views in compare with channels then I not had use smm panels.
 
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