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How is this competition?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by triggershot, Oct 6, 2009.

  1. triggershot

    triggershot Registered Member

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    If I have the keyword.com domain, do you guys think i can rank 3rd. Not looking to rank 1st or 2nd, because that seems VERY difficult, but I think I can beat the number 3 result if I do on page SEO.

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  2. _Austin

    _Austin Junior Member

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    Are you asking a question?

    You should be able to hit top 5 for any keyword, this is a black hat SEO forum after all.

    _Austin
     
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  3. reqd

    reqd Junior Member

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    You can do anything you set your mind to. ::cliche::

    CAN you? Yes of course you CAN. You can potentially rank #3 for any keyword.

    But do you have it in you to scour the board for information on HOW TO and then, most importantly, EXECUTE.

    Personally...Yes. - I think you CAN.

    Go out there and give em' hell buddy.
     
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  4. triggershot

    triggershot Registered Member

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    Thanks guys, couldn't have asked for better answers.
     
  5. THUNDERELVI

    THUNDERELVI Elite Member

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    What keyword tool did you use in there Market Samurai?
    Also guys according to you which is the best and most accurate keyword tool?
    Is it MS(market samurai) or KE(keyword elite) or MNF(michro niche finder)?
    I find these rank the top 3 in my opinion, excluding the google keyword tool since it's free.

    Also triggershot I think you CAN DO IT if you work hard enough and do all things right!
    And even if you don't do them right the 1st time then do it the 2nd time and so on just learn from your mistakes after all we're all humans. Don't ask if you feel like you can do it just DO IT! And fast! Do not let some other guy(not talking about you BHW) steal your idea or your solid niche(if you have found one) and get all your money! Time is MONEY!
     
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  6. mccullum

    mccullum Power Member

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    yes you can.first hit the third position and then try to get the 1st position.Do not get intimidated by the keyworded domain - make sure to analyze the site's backlinks and see how their anchor text varies.You can get more inlinks with the target anchor text and beat them.But that would be a long term strategy.Just do it and you are sure to beat everyone.It is all about FOCUS,links and anchor !
     
  7. TheBHCat

    TheBHCat Junior Member

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    It appears that the other ranking pages aren't very customized to this keyword, so you should be able to rank for this specific keyword. Judging by the fact that half of the other websites are Yahoo! directory and DMZ listed, coupled with large amounts of page backlinks, and decent/good PR, I would assume that those are the homepages for some pretty well known websites? It shouldn't be too hard for you to move some of them out of the way.
     
  8. poisonsembrace

    poisonsembrace Registered Member

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    Lets see..

    Domain age of those listed is greater than a couple of years.
    Almost all of the sites have a high PR.
    They all have a truckload of backlinks to the domain and pages on their sites.
    Quite a few gov/edu back links as well and most are listed in the dmoz directory.
    On page factors are poor to average.

    Why waste your time on something so competitive? Move on and find something else. I wouldn't even bother with this one.

    Here's a comparison of the top 10 i'm trying to rank for at the moment, been working on it for the past 2 weeks and not in the top 10 yet.

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    My site is the top one (don't confuse that with being ranked first). I'm confident i can crack the top 10 within 2-3 months.

    I'm not saying this to be rude or critical, but forget about the keyword you have found. Far too competitive. Go an download the free 30DC training videos that cover how to use market samurai to it's full potential and how to identify a good matrix from a bad one.

    If you want to pursue it, by all means do so, but it's going to take you forever and ever ranking in the top 10 for whatever keyword it is. All the sites seem to have major authority which gives you little chance.

    This is spoken from a white hat perspective so i can't comment on blackhat techniques so keep that in mind (and that's why i'm here in the first place).
     
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  9. THUNDERELVI

    THUNDERELVI Elite Member

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    So it is indeed Market Samurai...
    What do you think poisonsembrace is MS accurate enough?
    I have used google keyword tool in the past to analyze the competition and rank for some sites in some micro niches I found and almost gave me good results. Do you think MS is more accurate than GKT?
    I want to hear your opinion from your white hat experience and want to know what Keyword tool did you use?
    Would thank you if you help me plz...
     
  10. plateau

    plateau Regular Member

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    MS and GKT should get the same results as MS gets their data from google. With MS, it's not about the keyword research that i like. You get to analyze your competition in detail from the seo competition tool.
     
  11. THUNDERELVI

    THUNDERELVI Elite Member

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    Really? I didn't know that, but it makes sense. So what SEO competition tool are you talking about to analyze our competition?
     
  12. poisonsembrace

    poisonsembrace Registered Member

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    plateau is right, they both get their results from google.

    Something to keep in mind is the data can differ depending on which data centre MS gets it's information from.

    Usually the difference is so tiny it doesn't matter but i've had one instance where information from one data centre said 25k SEOC and from another data centre it said 300k (a month later). Major difference but that rarely happens so it's not worth worrying about.

    MS kills GKT for dead and it's using the same information, but you can always double check your keyword in GKT if you want to be certain before starting a project.
     
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