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How Does This Guy Ranking So Damn Fast?!?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by bradman, Nov 4, 2011.

  1. bradman

    bradman Newbie

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    Hey guys.. check this out. google 'acai berry diet' and you will find this guy - beriultimate4u.com

    He basically came out of nowhere and now has over 7000 backlinks in the last 2 months. They look as though they are from scrapebox blasts.

    Any idea how this guy is doing this?! Can anyone recommend and blast services that can achieve similar results?

    This shit is crazy.. especially considering his page has 0 content. lol
     
  2. m0nster

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    bradman so close to bartman careful.

    not sure about links
     
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  3. Expertpeon

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    I have seen this exact guy in about 5 diff diet niches lately
    He ran about 7 diff domains and all of them got crushed and de-indexed in one niche I watched.

    His scrapebox blasting is very easy to do, good luck having it work though.
    Out of all of the "4u" websites this guy makes, 90-95% of them are crushed by the algorithm.

    He has one "success" operating atm... the rest are off the map.
    If you want to try it it's pretty easy to do
    http://slimlipoplus4u.com/

    He also buys up a huge amount of aged domains in random niches, and attempts to rank them via the same method. The effort is moderately successful, though brief.
     
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  4. reinie

    reinie Elite Member

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    don't...out...people's...sites...
     
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  5. SuperLinks

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    Off the map likely as a Google dance right?

    I mean you mention that he got deindexed, is that 100% sure? Site:domain.com produces no results?

    Looking at his links my guess is that this current domain won't last long. I won't go into the details as I don't want to "out" someones strategy, likely a member on here's as well. But i forsee a Google sandbox in the near future.
     
  6. drogon

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    I have seen this guy too in quite a few niches. Always uses the 4u at the end of his domain name for each keyword he targets. I believe it is a combo of Scrapebox and special Xrumer config. His sites always seem to rank around no. 5 or 6 but not seen any actually rank no.1 or 2 yet.

    Also with the number of sites and links, looks like a team.....or someone with multiple dedicated servers.
     
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  7. Expertpeon

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    Well some are sandboxed some are actually de-indexed.
    Some were #14 to drop to page 10 (on a 2.5 million in exact quotes search)
    One of his websites still remains in the niche I saw him in, but the rest are below top 100. I wouldn't consider this to be a google dance, as this particular niche if this ever happens to your website, it means you're gone forever (from my experience)

    This is similar to the result I generally see going after any competitive niche with scrapebox blasts (especially d0follow ones)
    You almost never make it to page 1 if there's any real competition before disappearing entirely... acai berry diet is far less competitive than you'd think it is.

    Nothing about this is hard to do, and I have personally tried it.
    It works great on terms that are <$300/day profit margins... though his d0follow lists are truly, truly awful. There's a ton, a literal ton, of porn domains he's using.
    If you did large d0follow blasts + lots of large link pyramids, his strategy would work a lot better. The issue is, he doesn't know how to do the latter obviously.
    His thin content probably gets him 1-2 sales before the sites are crushed. If he simply built authority sites and ranked them he'd make a lot more.

    I know at least one of his websites, his top performing one in the niche he was trying to rank in, was completely deindexed. It does not show up when you type: site:domain.com

    I assume there's a lot more than that which have been deindexed though, that's just the only one I'm totally sure of. This was his first and oldest site... according to majestic SEO (from early august).
     
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  8. bradman

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    Thanks for the feedback!

    Seems as tho i'm not the only one who's been keeping an eye on this guy lol. I know of all his other sites as well.. and they are sticking with his blasts. He's usually top 5 and stays there.

    Can anyone suggest a scrapebox package that would achieve similar results??

    Cheers
     
  9. Expertpeon

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    What niches are you seeing this guy "stick" into?
    The sticking is a byproduct of google's recent algorithm change that has seemingly frozen all results for competitive keywords not his sites.

    I could do this for you, as could any moderately decent SEOer... at least I imagine so.
    Just don't be surprised when it doesn't work... at all
    The guy has a footprint the size of a house...
    Page 3: colon cleanse fibradetox4u.net and getcolocleansepro.net
    leanmusclex4u.net is targeting a keyword that gets <5000 exact/mth (he is ranked #6 though?)
    You could get #6 for that term inside a week with 2 pyramids. Not that you would make any money if you did it.
     
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  10. jon_xx_x

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    I've been using a service doing this, I'm sure those sites are using the same one. Been a couple weeks but I'm still ranking. I'm working on sending high quality links so hopefully it sticks. But I'm not gonna be surprised if they get penalized.

    I'm #5 for a 650k exact term. (wasn't ranked)
    #4 for a 165k exact term (wasn't ranked)
    #5 for a 110k exact (was #13 to start)
    #15(last I checked) for a 165k exacts (was #227 to start)
    And five more with minimum 90k exacts.
     
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    What service is that?
     
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    His site is not pretty thats for sure, i was thinking about scrapebox but some of the comments are putting me off. I guess it would take a while to be able to use it without risking getting de indexed.

    Expertpeon - why would he not making any sales for this kewyword on page one, I thought with 5000 searches a month even at six you should get something > guess it would mean you ahve to targetting No 1 ?
     
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    (No offense, but I'm not giving you this guys high PR back link pages directly. I don't know him and don't necessarily have an issue with him ranking fast. If you want them, you'll need to do the legwork yourself.)

    High PR page back links.

    I ran only about 10% of the available back links (full report 3~ hours) and some are pretty high PR pages with exact anchor text. The domain is fairly new, but so are a few of the other domains for that term.

    For other domains less than 3 years, he outperforms in BLP (except for acaiberriesdiet.com), BLD, RDP, RDD... No domains have an extraordinary PR (of age 3+/-)

    So it's not a very competitive niche... Sounds kinda normal, low competition terms usually don't take long to rank in. That's a very young domain also, Sep 2011.
     
  14. liquidx

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    Yup...thanks for outting sites man
     
  15. Johnny GotPaid

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    I think you answered your own question
     
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    I saw something similar happen in an extremely competitive niche with a bunch of pr5-6 sites dominating the top. This young site (couple months, couple pages) came out of nowhere to #1. Here is how it was done:

    1. 301 redirect from an unrelated domain with high pr
    2. A massive amount of high pr homepage backlinks - MASSIVE
    3. all your other standard seo - onpage, BMR links, comments, etc.

    Assuming you have all the basics in place, I think it really comes down to how much money you can spend for high pr homepage link networks. Oddly, this site had a pr 7 link coming from a site in Chinese.

    Didn't know you could get credit for links coming from sites in a different language.
     
  17. meatro

    meatro BANNED BANNED

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    Sure you can. And yes, high PR home page links will put just about anything on the first page of Google. So long as you have the cash to cover for them.
     
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    Without a doubt its the high PR links, notice though that you don't see extremely high PR (PR5+).

    To be honest I didn't dive as deep as you did.

    I think that its the "diversity" of links as well, he doesn't just have SB spam, but XR, blog posts, comments, image hosting sites, etc....

    Interesting diversity for sure.. The other interesting thing is that the site is rather "thin", and the on-site is horrible, goes to show the power of backlinks to those that haven't seen something like this before..
     
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  19. deusexmachina

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    It's possible he's doing 301 redirects to his domains??

    Vinnecurto does that for his own website
     
  20. meatro

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    Eh.. All that I've seen so far are SB comments. Relatively low links on the pages, though. He did some good scraping and found a few high PR, fairly bare do-follow blogs. Kudos. :)

    A lot of them are very close to the homepage, too.. As in, they aren't site.com/user/blog/comments/11/2011/04/story-title/comments/p5

    They're just site.com/user, site.com/feed, etc.