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How do i get around flippa duplicate ban

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by exclusivewebsites, Dec 12, 2011.

  1. exclusivewebsites

    exclusivewebsites Newbie

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    Hello everybody,

    I have been recently banned from Flippa due to potential shill bidding. Let's say I pushed things a little more than I should have. I've been trying for over a month to create another account but without any luck.

    Here's what I tried and I still get banned so please help!

    1. I use Tor Browser with noscript and disabled javascript and no flash and no cookies.
    2. I use secure and anonymous VPN/Elite Proxy
    3. I use google voice to verify my phone number
    4. I use a stealth account with PayPal.

    And everything is good till the moment I make my first auction and then, at the same time everyday their secure system triggers a ban for my account saying either " banned for guideline violations: duplicate accounts" or "linked to multiple accounts banned or suspended for guideline violations".

    So I tried other VPNs, other proxies, tried sonetel, I basically tried everything there is and everyday apprx. at 10:30 GMT+00 I get banned for the reason above and for the life of me I can't think of why that happens. There must be something that triggers their system regarding my accounts at that time. Any ideas?

    Please help me with this. I really want to play nice with flippa but they won't let me work with them anymore.

    Best Regards,
    Ivan
     
  2. usama18

    usama18 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Hello Ivan
    You just have to mail them that I have created this new account. Previously i mistakenly done this and not know the rules. Now i have learnt all the rules and things arround so it will not happen again. therefore kindly restore my account.
    Most probably they will re-open your account. otherwise there are three things which triggers there system
    1) Same payment system
    2) Same IP
    3) I forgot.

    Best of luck
     
  3. exclusivewebsites

    exclusivewebsites Newbie

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    Unfortunately they won't do that and they don't want any business with me.

    I'm not using the same paypal nor paypal address and details. I'm not using the same IP or a similar IP at all. So it must be something else! Please help guys...
     
  4. imlol

    imlol Regular Member

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    Have a look in your flash cookies and see if you have one.
     
  5. boom1

    boom1 BANNED BANNED

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    could you do a JV with someone that has an account? or if you are trying to sell an account there is a thread where someone sells your site for the best prices, search it here
     
  6. exclusivewebsites

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    I just need my own account that works, not an exchange for just one sale.

    I don't have flash installed so no cookies. I also tried to reinstall my O.S., I use Tor Browser as I read somewhere browser leave digital fingerprints. I also have disabled IPV6 protocol and yet they detected me again. How is that possible at all? There must be something that I'm missing guys, please help...
     
  7. exclusivewebsites

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    I also am aware of their Telesign system for phone verification that it can detects Voip non fixed numbers forwarding to the original number so I'm just sending an sms to my voice number from google so there can't be that. Nor it's my PayPal for sure. I always use different identity for the WHOIS information. So what's left is the IP but I tried so many VPNs and Proxys that I just don't know anymore...
     
  8. AndrewAU

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    Hi Ivan.
    I can tell you a fool-proof way to avoid Flippa's duplicate account ban: don't create a duplicate account.

    We will ban users for serious offenses - usually repeated offenses. For the account to be banned means there was a serious problem - and most likely one that posed a risk to our website buyer community.

    If this was the case, your account is banned and we continue to invest an incredible amount of time on manual and technical processes to keep you out of the marketplace.
     
  9. sirgold

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    Use a VirtualMachine with a different OS inside if you wanna go the extra mile and tunnel through a LEGIT IP address not those of over-(AB)used TOR/public VPN. A cheap VPS located in another country will do, for instance...

    While there are ways to detect it from an executable if you're inside a VM or real hw, there's no way whatsoever to detect it from the web with the kind of setup you posted.

    HTH!
     
  10. exclusivewebsites

    exclusivewebsites Newbie

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    sirgold, I have a question. When I go to vmware website there's a ton of software that I can install, there are many applications. What exactly do I need to be anonymous with it? Can you point out what should I use.

    Thanks for the advice so far!
     
  11. sirgold

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    For the sake of clarity. VMWare (pick VMware Workstation...) will JUST provide the hw emulation on top of which you're supposed to install a real operating system. This is not by any means anything like HideMyAss... By default you'll share the same IP (NAT or bridge) of your REAL MACHINE so this alone WILL NOT make you anonymous in any way, it'll only show up for your target website as a totally different machine according to the OS/browser you're going to install inside VMWare.

    At the same time appearing as a different PC is the 1st step if you wanna look like another PC. There are other ways but this is a good cost/benefit compromise since the other attempts you were mentioning failed.

    In order to look like an ENTIRELY different visitor you still need to use (tunnel through) a CLEAN IP address by buying a VPS, rDSL or anything that will look like a legitimate IP on a legitimate 3rd party operating system.
     
  12. Oliver1

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    Interesting discussion here. :)
     
  13. metalan1

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    Just use an entirely different computer, with an entirely different identity along with that computer. If that means a vps, a neighbor, etc. You can easily verify through someone else as well.
     
  14. AngryBirdsFlock

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    There is actually a pretty good eBook out there called "Flip Stealth."

    It shows you how to create a new stealth account without being linked or banned again!

    Sales Page
    Code:
    http://flipstealth.com/
     
  15. AndrewAU

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    Sure - Flippa bought it too. Most of the advice won't work and we closed up the few ideas that may have worked. Sorry.