Hooligan Media, Adsense, Or WordAds?

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Use HM when all doors are closed to show Google ads on your site.
Recently I came to know about one popular network that can screw you anytime, that one is Adplus ( also cut 25% revenue at the time of payment )
Beware from Adplus.
 
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BassTrackerBoats said:
But Adsense is not and the owner of Hooligan Media had a chance to make things right and did not.
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And what would be the right thing? E.g. you as an advertiser paid someone to show your ads and your ads were shown to bots - you still want to pay for those? The reason for ban states ‘refused to pay back’, mod who wrote that doesn’t understand the process and how the networks pay, which doesn’t look like the issue with the network but the user.
 
Jennifer lopez said:
And what would be the right thing? E.g. you as an advertiser paid someone to show your ads and your ads were shown to bots - you still want to pay for those? The reason for ban states ‘refused to pay back’, mod who wrote that doesn’t understand the process and how the networks pay, which doesn’t look like the issue with the network but the user.
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I have no dog in that fight... I only Mod this site and not the entire internet.

BTW, the owner of Hooligan said that if we thought a ban was in order he would be fine with it.
 
Jennifer lopez said:
If Adsense would be a user here it would have forever updated shitlist from the users who weren’t paid, just check their support forums. Saying network is bad because it has shitlist here from the user who had $200 cpm is silly, as it’s obvious some kind of scam you cannot have this cpm. I’s like saying pecan pie is bad because someone on Reddit said so, two completely unrelated things.
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If I'm to risk my money, why would I choose a 6 year old network over Google? Yes, sometimes Google ban your account for an unknown reason and we cant do anything about it. As for the case of HM, they are actually providing a support where a publisher can talk to them directly. As far as I remember, the op of the shitlist is providing proofs about the legitimacy of their traffic. They are even giving access to their analytics where HM can verify. If they think that op's traffic is fake, then they should also provide a proof about it since OP claimed that their traffic are real and they have proofs to back up their claims.
 
limez said:
If I'm to risk my money, why would I choose a 6 year old network over Google? Yes, sometimes Google ban your account for an unknown reason and we cant do anything about it. As for the case of HM, they are actually providing a support where a publisher can talk to them directly. As far as I remember, the op of the shitlist is providing proofs about the legitimacy of their traffic. They are even giving access to their analytics where HM can verify. If they think that op's traffic is fake, then they should also provide a proof about it since OP claimed that their traffic are real and they have proofs to back up their claims.
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If we agree that banning without notice is normal among all networks, why argue? Don’t send fake traffic/clicks and you’ll be fine. Just because network provides support doesn’t mean your safe from anything, you still can get banned if you doing blackhat, it’s not like you get a warning and still get paid.
 
Jennifer lopez said:
If we agree that banning without notice is normal among all networks, why argue? Don’t send fake traffic/clicks and you’ll be fine. Just because network provides support doesn’t mean your safe from anything, you still can get banned if you doing blackhat, it’s not like you get a warning and still get paid.
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Jennifer lopez said:
If we agree that banning without notice is normal among all networks, why argue? Don’t send fake traffic/clicks and you’ll be fine. Just because network provides support doesn’t mean your safe from anything, you still can get banned if you doing blackhat, it’s not like you get a warning and still get paid.
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No one is telling you that it is safe if they provide support and you do blackhat. It's pretty obvious that they will get banned soon. That is why the op of the shitlist provided a lot of traffic proofs. Yet, HM keeps on claiming that they are sending fake traffic without any proof but words. Even if you bring it to court, words are not just enough to win a case. Of course, everyone will get banned if they're doing blackhat. That is why they provided proof to get clear their account and get their earnings from HM. But again, HM can't provide proof and all they do is talk that the publisher is fake traffic. If you want to use HM and are willing to risk your money to them, go ahead and put their ad codes on your website. But in my case, I will never go to that kind of network based on what I read from the shitlist. I don't like how they handle things so I'd rather stick with Adsense and send traffic.
 
limez said:
No one is telling you that it is safe if they provide support and you do blackhat. It's pretty obvious that they will get banned soon. That is why the op of the shitlist provided a lot of traffic proofs. Yet, HM keeps on claiming that they are sending fake traffic without any proof but words. Even if you bring it to court, words are not just enough to win a case. Of course, everyone will get banned if they're doing blackhat. That is why they provided proof to get clear their account and get their earnings from HM. But again, HM can't provide proof and all they do is talk that the publisher is fake traffic. If you want to use HM and are willing to risk your money to them, go ahead and put their ad codes on your website. But in my case, I will never go to that kind of network based on what I read from the shitlist. I don't like how they handle things so I'd rather stick with Adsense and send traffic.
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You’re right, but it makes sense to get your facts straight first, as your points are practically baseless. I wouldn’t engage in this conversation if I wouldn’t work with them and other ad networks for a while and was paid without problems. The same situation is with every network, but to make it case specific I compare my stats that I see on the dashboard and the ‘proofs’ shared on the shitlist - it’s clear they were manipulated, but who cares? Compare yours, so you see the same stats? You cannot have such CPM, you can bring any proof, it’s impossible. When whole internet is working with rates below $10 (and 90% is happy with $1-$3) you cannot claim that anything beyond that is normal. You can think that only if you have never ran ads. What you saying sounds like a personal grudge, if you apply the same method of choosing a network, or anything in life, you would find bad reviews on anything.
 
Personally maxbounty, but you can do this also, it works , adsense can **** u very easily i dont suggest it, but it's the most secured.
 
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