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[Help] PBN backlink Building suggestion !

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by metafser, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. metafser

    metafser Regular Member

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    I need to know about PBN Baklinks Building. Such as, How to create safe Private blog network ? Which method will be best for building it ? How many blog will be best for networking ? Is any problem there, if i use single cpanel for creating PBN ? Which Hosting provider can give me best effort by reasonable price ?

    Moral matter that, I need a clear concept, that concept can safe from Search Engine. Advance Thanks. :)
     
  2. LinkSearching

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    You need to buy expire domain with minimum 20+ PA / DA. Must you need to check there backlinks. Use different IP for hosting those website. That will be better if you host those website in different c-class ip. That's the basic.
     
  3. metafser

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    Thanks for your nice info. :)
     
  4. zimmerseo

    zimmerseo Newbie

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    No back-linking is completely 'safe' but building private blog networks isn't any worse than any kind of back-linking. This is my personal list of what you might consider doing.

    1. Scrape the net for broken links to expired domains with scrapebox from pages with a minimum PR of 5. This will give your expired domain an instant PR of 3.

    2. Try to find domains from the same niche. If you can't, build relevant links to them and 'convert' them. One link from a relevant PBN niche site is worth many irrelevant PBN links.

    3. Use a PBN as part of your link-building not as a method in itself.

    4. Ignore all these trust factors from Ahrefs, Majestic, Moz etc. Thay can be very inaccurate so ONLY use PR. This is Googles measurement of quality and is the only one that counts as far as Google is concerned. You will find many page rank calculators online.

    5. C class hosting isn't good enough anymore, use different A class hosts.

    6. I use nonameinternet hosting. They use different A class providers and companies from all over the world and you can manage all your domains in one place. They don't own any of the hosting, they are simply middlemen and charge $2 per month per domain.

    7. Keep your PBN's active by drip feeding content and comments to them with article builder and/or scrapebox automater addon.

    8. Add one out bound link from the root domain, surrounded by relevant text and use a brand name/site name or naked URL. Keep exact match to under 1%.

    9. Backup all your PBN's as sometimes cheap hosts can disappear along with your site's content.

    10. Hide your PBN's from all bots except Google and bing by using Spyder Spanker or Link privacy. This way your network wont get ratted out by competitors.

    11. Manage all your PBN links with Inspyder Backlink Monitor. It will let you know if any tiers get broken. If one does, you simply replace it.

    If you need anymore information, just ask me or checkout my post on the subject on my blog at ZimmerSEO.


    Good Luck!

    Frank Zimmer
     
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  5. metafser

    metafser Regular Member

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    Many many Thanks buddy for helping me. I think, i will follow your guideline. :)
     
  6. seosky

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    Better way to build a Good PBN is to hire some expert who already working in similar field.
     
  7. zimmerseo

    zimmerseo Newbie

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    Best of luck. Hope it works out for you.
     
  8. asap1

    asap1 BANNED BANNED

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    Its so much information on this already.

    Search for it and you will find it.
     
  9. jo080711

    jo080711 Regular Member

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    Yeah, definitely take some time to look around this forum and Google for some more info. PBNs are definitely NOT safe if you don't know what you are doing. (Even if you do they can be risky) - Take the time now - so you don't end up wasting time and money.
     
  10. asap1

    asap1 BANNED BANNED

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    I have to disagree with you on the above quote.

    Pagerank has not been updated in over a year, go find a PR 3 domain and I bet its a shit domain.

    Use metrics to filter the list of expired domains you scrape then manually check the ones that pass the metric filter.
     
  11. metafser

    metafser Regular Member

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    If i hire a expert, so what about me ? I know about PBN, that's why asked here.But i want some suggestion. That suggestion will be good to me for creating safe PBN. :)
     
  12. veboo

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    PR is no longer updated publicly So relying only on it, is insane, Seems you are not very familiar with the new Metrics :D :D Backlink profile should be spam less and have a goof Tf/CF ratio
     
  13. ShahidMian

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    If someone build PBN by buying drop domains, do you guys really think its good idea?
    Lets suppose if you buy drop domain and Google already hit that domain then what to do?
    I think you waste your time and money and indeed you need more money and time to revoked penalty against this domain.
     
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    Never mind about the PR of the domain.. Just give importance for the backlink profile.. Pick them if the backlink profile and referring domains are good.. Concern more about the spammy links and stay away they're high in PR..
     
  15. zimmerseo

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    PR is updated all day long, every day of the week. If Google decides not to show it, that doesn't mean they don't use it as their main quality metric.
    The reason I say 'ignore' the other trust metrics like citation and trust flow, is that they ONLY take into account the number of backlinks and the number of domains they come from. They don't use any kind of metric to measure quality or relevance like Google and it's extremely easy to manipulate them. It's not hard to find heavily spammed sites with great trust and citation flows.
    If it's good enough for Google, it's good enough for me.
     
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  16. zimmerseo

    zimmerseo Newbie

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    All a drop means is that the owner failed to renew it. Google doesn't penalise that. Personally, it doesn't matter to me if it's been dropped at all. If the inbound links are natural, come from quality domains, are not over optimised and Wayback shows a spam free history, I'm happy.
     
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    zimmerseo Newbie

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    It might not update very often but that doesn't mean it's not a valid metric. I find it odd that people trust the metrics of a third party tool and not the metrics used by Google themselves.
    Yes, PR is just a guide but it's Google guide that they use and all I care about when ranking a site, is what Google thinks about a site. Any other metric is just an opinion and pretty worthless in terms of a ranking websites.
     
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  18. TheRealMassBlack

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    Thanks for all your replies and help here in this thread.
    I just found your website and although I am not a candidate for your services I am finding your build a PBN article fairly detailed..
    Respect,
    TheRealMassBlack


     
  19. zimmerseo

    zimmerseo Newbie

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    These new metrics have nothing to do with Google and if you want to know about the QUALITY of a site, they are worthless. Their metrics are based on backlinks...nothing else. This is why 99% of sites with thousands spam links have insanely high metrics for a sites that are pure garbage.

    It's actually impossible to get a PR of 3 using spam links alone because Google's PR algorithm is pretty solid. In order to get PR, the inbound links must have PR in the first place. Spam links don't have PR, simply because they cannot attract links.

    If an expired domain has a PR of 3 and Wayback shows it was a real site, with real content and the links that gave it a PR of 3 are in place, there is no reason to assume it's PR will have dropped.

    Actually, it's PR will probably have increased because the legitimate sites that are still alive will probably have attracted more links over time and in turn that PR will be passed onto your domain.

    If you are buying old domains based on those 'new' metrics and expect them to be an accurate reflection of how Google rates them, then you might as well throw darts at a list of sites.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Google does not use third party algorithms, it never has and it never will. So if you expect Google to look at a domain and say, "hey, Ahrefs and majestic rate this site with their clunky metrics higher then we do, we better move it up." your gonna be waiting a long time.