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[Guide] How to post on FB groups - a different perspective

Discussion in 'FaceBook' started by BizFx, Jun 12, 2016.

  1. BizFx

    BizFx Junior Member

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    [Guide] How to post on FB groups - a different perspective


    Is this a free guide?
    Yes. I'm not selling or promoting anything here, just giving out free advice.


    Does this guide include a story about bears?
    Yes, it does :)


    Is this guide for beginners or for experts too?
    It's also for experts. Even if you've been spamming groups for years now, it will let you see a different perspective. You might like it and you might not. You might agree with it and you might not. But it will definitely make you think.


    Why did I write this guide?
    One of the threads here mentioned MassPlanner's post on how to post to FB groups without getting penalized:
    http://www.massplanner.com/how-to-post-to-facebook-groups-without-getting-penalized/
    The info in that post is good, and will teach you exactly that, but I believe they missed the point.


    So what is the point?
    I'll answer it with a story:
    John's wife asked him to go hunting in the forest, to get some meat for dinner.
    John took his rifle and went to the forest. On the way there, he used his smart phone to read a post called: "How to use your rifle to shoot many shots in the forest without getting eaten by a bear".
    That was a great post, with many good tips and examples. He followed all the tips, and succeeded: He used his rifle and shot hundreds of shots and he wasn't eaten by a bear.
    When he got home his wife asked him: So, how many animals did you get, John?
    And John proudly said: I shot a hundreds of shots, and I wasn't eaten by any of the bears there. But I was so focused on not getting eaten by bears and just shooting and shooting, that I didn't actually kill any one of the animals.
    They went to sleep hungry that night.
    John slept on the sofa :)


    I didn't get the moral of the story. Could you explain it without talking about bears?
    Yes.
    If you're marketing on FB, your objective ISN'T to post on as many groups as possible without getting caught.
    No, really, it's not. Read that again and make sure you understand that.
    Because that would be like shooting many shots in the forest without killing an animal.
    Your real objective is simple: Get as many people as possible to see your post.
    That's it.
    Once they see it, you next objective will be to make them convert (buy your product or click on your link or whatever). But that is not your objective now. Right now you just want to make sure that as many people as possible see your post.


    But if I want more people to see my post I need to spam more groups, right?
    No, wrong.
    In order to kill more animals, you don't need to shoot more shots. You just need to aim...
    Most BHW threads talk about spamming more groups, spamming faster, choosing larger groups and not small ones etc.
    My tactics are totally different.


    But, wait. Why do you need a different tactic?
    Because when you post in a FB group, most members of that group won't see your post.


    How can you be sure of this?
    1. I tested it a lot, so you can just trust me on this one :)
    2. Test it yourself in a small group: If you post in a small group (<250 members), you can see the exact number of people that saw your post.
    3. Test it yourself in a large group: post on your FB PAGE, then SHARE that post to a group. Now, any person that sees your post in the group will be counted in the post reach that you see on your FB page, so you can see the exact number.


    So how many people see the post?
    There is no exact number or percentage, but it is a very low figure.


    Wait. So you're saying that if I post on a group, only a small percentage of its members will see it. So if I post on MANY groups, I will get more people, right?
    Not really.
    If you post on many groups, you will most likely get caught by FB, or get your link banned etc.


    To solve this, ask yourself a simple question:
    When you post on a group, WHERE do people see your post?
    It sounds like a dumb question, but if your answer was "inside the group" you are only half right.
    Indeed, some people will see your post in the group, especially if it's a quality group that has a lot of discussions/comments in it.


    But the full answer is this:
    When you post to a group, a member of the group can see it:
    1. Inside the group.
    2. On his news feed.
    3. By getting a notification.
    (If it's a PUBLIC group then other people can see it as well.)


    And if you do a lot of testing (don't worry, I did that for you...) you'll see that if a member of the group is also your FB friend, the chances are much higher for #2 and #3 to happen. I'm not going into all the details of why this happens, since this guide is already way too long, but just trust me on this one or do some testing and you'll see that this is true.


    So how do you aim?
    1. Pick a group in your niche.
    2. Set up 1 or more accounts that will post to that group.
    3. Add the group members as friends (either manually or using a bot to scrape the list and slowly send them friend requests).
    4. Post to the group.
    5. Rinse & repeat. Choose another group, assign an account to it, etc.


    These are all very basic things to do.
    But try to understand what I did here...

    I made sure that account1 will post to group1, but when it does, more people from this group will see the post, since they are friends with account1, and will therefore have a better chance of seeing it in their news feed or getting a notification about it, and not just seeing it inside the group.

    And account2 will post to group2, etc.


    That's it.
    Sorry for the long guide, but I hope it will make you think about your group spamming tactics.
     
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  2. xbryan

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    awesome story, but still not helpful.
     
  3. monnoname

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    Thanks for great post op!
    I totally agree with you. If someone spam to groups, most of them will be blocked by admin approval, and if the group is not active, no one will see it.
    It's very good tactic to add group members as friend!
     
  4. Gommie

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    Not many people accept friend request from strangers. And even if they do, they will remove it once they find out that they dont know 'you'.
     
  5. monnoname

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    My case is so different. I'm adding 5000 to each accounts without any problems.
    It's all up to how to do. ..
     
  6. Gommie

    Gommie Newbie

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    And how do you do it? ;-)
     
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    Well written, and nice story.

    The best thing about this 2 years ago fb groups had no spam and created a bot to do exactly this, made a ton and moved on. But still fun to post to targetted groups every now in then to test out new ads.
    However, many many people are leaving facebook because its being spammed too much lately.
     
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    Easiest is put beautiful women's profile :) they will even call u, like every posts of yours haha this is what everyone is doing.
     
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    How you get away with Security check (recognize your friends)?

    I try that with 5 profiles, and each of them easy get 500 friends (in 1 week) , and than I get Security check. Is there any why around that.
     
  10. Gommie

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    If you stick to the same IP you used for the account, you'd not get locked out, isnt that the case?
     
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    Try posting the articles / blogs / posts as questions for comments. Ask people what they agree or disagree with and you'll find more responses and clicks.
     
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    Sex sells. Men wanna get laid. Bottom line is that although 'we' are all wise to the fact that a FB profile that uses a pic of horny chic is usually a guy looking to get friends for his FB profile but it works because there will always be the type of guy who is desperate for a little 'female' attention and that shit easily leads to ewhoring which is an oldie but goldie :)

    Shez
     
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    how many friends can you add per day without getting blocked etc? and is it any restriction on how many friend request you can accept? Great guide btw.I dont understand people that spamming thoose making money groups that nobody clicks or convert.
     
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    Some great info here, thank you.
     
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    I only read the post because it included bears as I think FB is just a passing fancy and not worth any of my time or effort but I took from this that your friends will be your post extensions and increase your reach and that just spamming in groups is only going to get you a limited audience.

    But, like I said, FB is not worth my time or effort so my hands on experience is negligible at best.
     
  16. BizFx

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    If you elaborate on what was not helpful, maybe I can answer your question or write a 2nd guide with more info (and another bear, yeah!)
     
  17. BizFx

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    Thanks.
    And just to make it clear, the problem with what massplanner suggested (spamming your own wall/timeline with some rss feed at the same time you spam groups) is that if you spam your own timeline, your friends will see some of those posts (which are just rss feeds, and not your real selling posts) in their news feed and will see less of the posts you post to the groups.
     
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    from what you are saying is, post only on a few groups but get alot of traffic, NOPE.... the traffic you will get is just enough to make few bucks maybe 300 - 500 clicks max from a few groups. you WILL NOT make alot of Money if you do this method, it's like make money for coffee or a meal for today. that's what i see in my opinion because when you get 3K - 4K clicks on your website, only 500 - 600 people will click your offer or click buy button from this amount and you will make like $50 - $80 from this.

    the only way to get traffic is SPAM but there is something wrong with facebook and it looks like alot of people Have NO IDEA how to bypass or fight against the algorithm of facebook.there is alot of Vietnamese spammer on facebook groups that Never had issue, they get 300k - 500k bitly clicks everyday from facebook group spamming and making money with Adsense while posting to like 50k+ groups, THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO and THEY DO IT. this is why they BANK. i don't know how they do it but soon, im sure i will also learn how to do it, actually i already know how but i just need funds and a javascript developer, maybe in a week or so i will test the method.

    if you want to make low money but EASY, then go to this method that BizFx wrriten, if you want to bank but also work hard & get stressed... do SPAM
     
  19. BizFx

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    As some people already mentioned here, open your account with a girl's name.

    I can add 3 small but important tips:

    1. Make sure not to put a photo of a model or naked girl, as most people will recognize it's a fake account.
    Just put a photo of a girl-next-door average looking girl.

    2. If you join many groups, make sure to set the privacy of your account to NOT show your list of groups.
    This will make it harder (but not impossible) for people to see your list of groups.
    If someone sees an account with hundreds of groups, they know this account is probably used to spam groups...

    3. You said that they will remove the friendship once they find out that they don't know you.
    Well, people won't remove you after accepting your friend request if they see that you are liking/commenting on their posts.
    That's what people like (I mean real people, not spammers LOL).
    So just use a bot to like/comment on your friends posts, and they will have no reason to give up this wonderful friendship :)
     
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    Thanks.
    Where did you move on to? Instagram?