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I have finally received the notice and it was expected.


So my question is what now ? and suggestion.

I understand most will say stop using the domain. And it is expected, however I am hoping for some innovative ideas


I thought about forwarding the domain. Is this the best?


Any other suggestions ?


I read on the forum "one guy" sticking it to a dating site :)


And yes, I am not looking to pay $000,000.

Do I sell the domain?where -is that my only option?



I hope for some innovative ideas?
and I expect the jokes | and smart cracks.



How about if I am out of the USA ? but still NorthAmer (south)



-------- Original Message -------- Subject: FWD: - Notice of Facebook Trademark Infringement [******[email protected]]Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:00:27 UTFrom: [email protected]ly-To: [email protected]:


We are writing concerning your registration and use of the domain name ---------.com, which contains the famous Facebook trademark.

As you undoubtedly know, Facebook is the leading online social network service. Facebook adopted the name and trademark Facebook in February 2004 and, since that time, Facebook has actively used the Facebook name and trademark in connection with its online social network service, including maintaining the web site http://www.Facebook.com. The term Facebook is one of the most famous trademarks on the Internet. Facebook owns exclusive trademark rights to the Facebook name in the United States and internationally, including related common law rights. Accordingly, Facebook enjoys broad trademark rights in its name.

Facebook has made a substantial investment in developing and providing its services. As a result of Facebooks pioneering efforts and devoting substantial effort and resources to providing only high quality services, the Facebook name and trademarks are widely known among the consuming public worldwide, and the name and trademarks embody substantial and valuable goodwill.

Accordingly, we were concerned when we learned of your registration and use of -----------.com. As we hope you can appreciate, protection of its trademarks is very important to Facebook. Your registration and use of -------.com violates the Lanham Act (15 U.S.C. 1051 et seq.) because it infringes and dilutes the famous Facebook trademark.

Infringement occurs when a third partys use of a companys trademark (or a confusingly similar variation thereof) is likely to confuse consumers as to the affiliation, sponsorship or endorsement of the third partys services. Trademark dilution occurs when a third partys use of a variation of a companys trademark is likely to lessen the distinctiveness of the companys famous trademark.

We have filed several proceedings before the United Nation's World Intellectual Property Organization's arbitration panel. Facebook has prevailed in each case and the domain names at issue were all ordered to be transferred to Facebook. Facebook is concerned that your unauthorized use of the Facebook name may cause confusion as to whether you or your companys activities are authorized, endorsed or sponsored by Facebook when, in fact, they are not.

We understand that you may have registered --------.com without full knowledge of the law in this area. However, Facebook is concerned about your use of the Facebook trademark in your domain name. As you may know, the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act provides for serious penalties (up to $100,000 per domain name) against persons who, without authorization, use, sell, or offer for sale a domain name that infringes anothers trademark.

While Facebook respects your right of expression and your desire to conduct business on the Internet, Facebook must enforce its own rights in order to protect its valuable and famous trademark. For these reasons, and to avoid consumer confusion, Facebook must insist that you immediately stop using -----------.com and disable any site available at that address. You should not sell, offer to sell, or transfer the domain name to a third party and should let the domain registration expire.

Please confirm in writing that you will agree to resolve this matter as requested. If we do not receive confirmation from you that you will comply with our request, we will have no choice but to pursue all available remedies against you.

Sincerely,

Ethel

Legal Dept.
Facebook, Inc.
 
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I doubt they will waste their time sueing you. If your outside of US it makes it even less likely. Just sell the domain. But don't quote me on any of this, I'm sure there are people who know a hell of a lot more about it than I do.
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Generally when you run into a trademark problem you're fucked. In most cases they make you surrender the domain. I know it sucks, but there really isn't anyway around it.
 
There really is no point fighting the man on this one, unless your hosted offshore and are "invisible". I would just sell the domain and be done, they have huge legal teams that will make mincemeat of you if it comes to it.
 
Would be pretty stupid to get into a fight with Facebook.
Let it go and forget about any BS "innovative ideas"
 
I would just sell the domain


what about this ?
http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/domain-names-parking/130856-how-much-do-parking-networks-pay-average.html

I am not sure if DOMAIN PARKING , DOMAIN FORWARD, or Google Domains would work, but it is "innovative"




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A friend of mine was dragged through the legal system by Matel, because he used "barbie" in a domain. He fought them for 5 yrs in court.

Finally on the last day of the last court appearance the judge sided with him
and told Matel to go piss into the wind and pay all court costs.

But he had to wait 5 yrs for that decision and spend over $100k in legal fees to get it.
 
slicer has a good point, unless you have time and funds get rid of that badboy.
 
I think offshore hosting would not protect the domain name from being turned to facebook. If they file a UDRP, you're screwed. You can try selling it, but anyone aware of trademark violation would not buy. Well, if I had to give in anyway, I'd give them a hard time first. Say you'll comply in 3 days, do nothing..keep saying you will..etc. I dont really know how much time it'll take them to get the domain if they file a UDRP but if you're outside the US, you may have a much better chance of pissing them off big time before they get the domain. But eventually, it'll probably be theirs if you do not comply. But since I'm in Egypt, and it's only like $9 for the domain, so I'd prefer an honorable death..LOL
 
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You'd have to be in one of the few countries that does not enforce American Trademark laws. Then, you can keep it or sell it to them at any price.

But you obviously aren't, so you're fucked.
 
I had the same shit happen to me with State Farm Insurance.....godaddy took the domain name away from me and gave it to them
 
Actually if you are not using the domain for the exact same service that FaceBooks supplies there can not be brand confusion.

Since you obviously don't have facebook.com :)

Something like facebooksecrets.com they'd have a hard time getting any
judge to agree with them on. That's only my no legal personal oppinion.
 
IMHO, Just say sorry to them, that you didn't knew, and offer them the domain-name in good faith. :) Just consult your lawyer for the right legal advice though.

What's the use in avoiding the inevitable? There'll always be another great day tomorrow if you don't want to fight those biggies.
 
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I had the same shit happen to me with State Farm Insurance.....godaddy took the domain name away from me and gave it to them
i didn't know they could do that. arent they supposed to buy it from you?

lets say im selling a book that is about fuckfaces, and if I get a domain like fuckfacebook.com and promote the clickbank mafiawars ebook along with the fuckface book that I have, would that be illegal too?
 
I agree with srb888.
Let them think you didn't know about this copyright infringement. Tell them that you'll make domain expire but you have spent money for buying it, try to sell them your domain but with a lot of diplomacy.
Their lawyers like to kick poor guys ass.
 
i didn't know they could do that. arent they supposed to buy it from you?

lets say im selling a book that is about fuckfaces, and if I get a domain like fuckfacebook.com and promote the clickbank mafiawars ebook along with the fuckface book that I have, would that be illegal too?


If you use hyphens I think they couldn't do anything. fuck-face-book.com should be safer.
 
Dump it. If you built something on it that was stupid since you said yourself you expected to be contacted. You can't hide or run from a UDRP, they will take the name unless you respond and convince the panel you have a right to the domain.

FB could potentially sue you although it is more likely they would file a UDRP first before doing that. Either park the domain and wait to lose it in a UDRP or just take it down and let it expire, probably the easiest way.
 
I had a company file a UDRP against me for trademark infringement and godaddy stripped my domain privacy. Domain Privacy is not as private as most people think, and anyone can file a dispute, even if its frivilous or nonsense, and easily strip you of domain privacy (read the small print when you sign up for it).

I don't know how your registrar will handle it, but Godaddy locked the domain so that it couldn't be transfered or renewed, but it is still technically mine and usable until the company proves their case and gets a court order stating they have a right to it, or I agree to transfer it to them by signing papers stating I am giving up control.

From my understanding and experience trademark infringement is a very gray area and most companies with deep pockets use the threat of legal action from expensive lawyers as a means to indimidate people into complying with their demands. Most people who receive domain dispute letters from lawyers just dont want any trouble so they immediately transfer the domains or shut down the site.

I spoke to a lawyer about this and his advice was that unless you are blatantly infringing on a trademark, that is, you have the facebook logo plastered all over your website or are trying to give people the impression you are associated with Facebook or working with/for them, it will very hard for them to prove infringement.
 
By *'s sake people, stop using that Godaddy crap. For those who don't know them yet, please read this: http://www.forevergeek.com/2006/07/godaddy_sucks/

Also, what the hell is that Godaddy CEO? I'd kick the ass of that prick if I had the chance.
 
I tend to agree with the consensus OP. I would let them have it and cut your losses. move on and rebuild. We already know from past examples that FB won't hesitate to protect their name.
 
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