Google's getting better...

well, Google is indeed getting better in spreading BS. That top SEO guru can be one of those that got bought by Google to spread BS all over the place.
 
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peterngo91 said:
well, Google is indeed getting better in spreading BS. That top SEO guru can be one of those that got bought by Google to spread BS all over the place.
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This is exactly what this thread looks like.
 
Just do the opposite of whatever Matt Cutts says in his videos and you'll rank high enough to earn some decent cash.
 
Heraclitus said:
SEO seems turn into creating value rather that link building at the end.
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Linkbuilding isn't SEO, it is a component of SEO.

SEO is about optimizing a web presence for search engines. It has nothing to do with anything else.

SEM is creating value, and SEO is a component of SEM.
 
The Blackhat/Whitehat SEO discussion is for forum morons that don't make money.
 
Please keep spreading this BS far and wide. The less people who do seo the more clients there is for me!!
 
Heraclitus said:
Yeah I know but Blackhat SEO has turned to Whitehat, you have to have unique content, diversified anchor... It's not blackhat anymore..
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its not White hat also. SEO is Just SEO. from the single moment you start link building, its not white hat anymore.
White hat means create a website, add articles and hope someone will find your articles and link you..... while others getting rich and richer....
And FFS people, stop making threads of this type. Seo is dead, blackhat seo is dead, G wins, we loose, we are screwed etc etc.......
If it works for some people it should work for you too, you are just making something wrong.
In that case, whatever you are doing, try something else :)

Best wishes.
Leobar!
 
Mr.Fox said:
how is unique content whitehat ? me and many others rank high for very competitive kws with 100% unique spun content that makes no sense at all.
google is fighting a losing a battle, unless they manually monitor every niche and every kw or fill 1st page with paid ads they can never stop blackhatters from ranking.
not everything you hear the "Guru's" say is true and not everything you read on forums is true and most important of all : Not every method is on forums and especially not on free open to public forums anyway.
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I've been browsing and learning for a long time before actually finding a method that actually works consistently and I will NOT reveal it, even on a paying squeeze page...agree with Mr.Fox.
What forum do you recommend Mr.Fox?
 
Google getting bettet!??? B.S!

I will prove:
(Suppose) I want to buy a black hat in London. I use the Google search. I get these sh!t results! What does Google give me? Try these two search strings in Google... let me help you there: Click:

(First string is a general search string, while the second is more focused.)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=i+want+to+buy+a+black+hat

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+can+i+buy+a+black+hat+in+london?

The organic result sets, at least on the first page, are all BS -- 100% useless!

Google has a become more B.S.-quality SE imo.


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Interestingly: See those Adwords ads! They are all to the point! Natural!In the example, I will get fed up with the conventional (organic) results and move to those Adwords sections (PPC section) on the side and the top of the result page... that's OK for me as a buyer, but why those organic results are having gays cabarets, foods and pubs, domains, guides and books, video and audio, SEO(!), etc. are thrown at me! My search string simply and plainly tells Google that I want to buy a black hat (a kind of head-wear)!

Is, therefore, Google purposefully killing the conventional results (Organic results) so that readers go to the advertisement sections (PPC results) when Google detects that the person using the search string is a potential buyer???

Proof 2: Google is thus black-hat'ing the gullible, unsuspecting potential online buyers! Now will Google admit it that it is misusing/abusing its advance SE technology??
 
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Blackhat can work if you have the right mindset -- i.e. churn and burn. Building a brand around spam will fail -- no ifs, ands, or maybes.
 
If Scroogle is getting better, then Lucas Braydon is always going to be better than them
 
I will come back and agree with you when I am making no money and signing on.
 
UrsuAke said:
What a load of BS!

Who's the top SEO wanker who said that?

1) Google isn't getting better at finding spam, google fixes bugs in the algo but by doing that it opens doors for other ones (strictly blackhat). The process of "spam"
a) blackhatters identify resource for fast ranking
b) blackhatters spam the shit out of that resource
c) google picks up this trend
d) google devalues that particular resource (sometimes with harsh negative effects)
That's it. Jesus.

2) "Google started counting time of visits to results on serps" yes, google relies on analytics metrics as ranking factors and so should them. They don't look only at the time on site, they look at the bounce rate, pageviews etc. This is the way it should be, if you have a webpage that's ranking for a term I search and I visit that page but your content is shit, how can that be helpful to me as an user?!

3) Whatever.

SEO is a marketing tool which should be intergrated in the global marketing strategy of a company (big or small doesn't matter). The more channels you target effectively via marketing, better the chances you have at a conversion + branding (which is the end game really). Yes, SEO has become a tad more expensive, it has become more time consuming to rank with safe techniques but SEO is not dead. And for the people who know their game and can adapt, SEO today has been a eye opener to other channels.

For example:
- very few SEO's pushed Social Media to their clients 3-4 years ago. Now, without Social you can't rank.
- 3-4 years ago, we didn't consider having good content on our sites or having content marketing strategies, now that's a must.
- 3-4 years ago we didn't worry about usability or user experience improvements, now it's a must as well.

All of those improvements have positive effects in the ROI of a company, in many cases better than the classic SEO and shitty sites we all did.

Step up people, keep up with the knowledge and stop believing any BS a "guru" said at some point in his shitty existence.

Top SEO, pffht....
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Your process of spam is exactly how it goes, and some other parts of your post I can agree, but there are also some things you get wrong.

First of all, answer number 2, wasn't about Google Analytics or pageviews, but it was about how Google now tracks if users actually find what they are looking for or do they come back to search something else, and how quickly they come back.

Also, 'without Social you can't rank' is total BS. Google can't even read most of the social links, only their own. And yes, those works well in some niches, but without Social you can still rank easily.

Same goes with the next part. Good content or content marketing strategies are not 'must' like you say, it might be viable part of building authoritative websites, but not a must.
 
These "SEO Gurus" follow a new tactic these days. They belive if they stick their fingers far enough up Matts arse, and use their blogs to preach Googles message, they believe Matt will give them brownie points and leave their websites alone.
 
srb888 said:
Google getting bettet!??? B.S!

I will prove:
(Suppose) I want to buy a black hat in London. I use the Google search. I get these sh!t results! What does Google give me? Try these two search strings in Google... let me help you there: Click:

(First string is a general search string, while the second is more focused.)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=i+want+to+buy+a+black+hat

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=where+can+i+buy+a+black+hat+in+london?

The organic result sets, at least on the first page, are all BS -- 100% useless!

Google has a become more B.S.-quality SE imo.


----

Interestingly: See those Adwords ads! They are all to the point! Natural!In the example, I will get fed up with the conventional (organic) results and move to those Adwords sections (PPC section) on the side and the top of the result page... that's OK for me as a buyer, but why those organic results are having gays cabarets, foods and pubs, domains, guides and books, video and audio, SEO(!), etc. are thrown at me! My search string simply and plainly tells Google that I want to buy a black hat (a kind of head-wear)!

Is, therefore, Google purposefully killing the conventional results (Organic results) so that readers go to the advertisement sections (PPC results) when Google detects that the person using the search string is a potential buyer???

Proof 2: Google is thus black-hat'ing the gullible, unsuspecting potential online buyers! Now will Google admit it that it is misusing/abusing its advance SE technology??
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Thanks, that's my plans for the weekend sorted.

Jx4qi40
 
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