Google Sandbox - Does it exist?

Smeklinis said:
Yes right.
I will register new domain with almost same name (if .com), or same name but different TLD for this test.

As i told, with 301 i solved 4 results index penalty for 2 sites (of course on a new domains i changed a little bit content to not get penalty again).
On 1 domain which was not ranking on homepage and brand - still no success - but redirect made about 1 month ago only.
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In my webmaster dashboard there were 2-3 days with like 40 clicks each day from Google. Does that means something since all other days were 1-4 clicks a day. Maybe those days the strange "penatly" has been lifted? Do you have time to talk about this via Skype? I am ready to pay for a solution as I mentioned before.
 
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onlinework said:
In my webmaster dashboard there were 2-3 days with like 40 clicks each day from Google. Does that means something since all other days were 1-4 clicks a day. Maybe those days the strange "penatly" has been lifted? Do you have time to talk about this via Skype? I am ready to pay for a solution as I mentioned before.
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We can talk here via PM.
I do not need any money - i am not SEO expert, also learning it.

I already told known solutions for me.
I have talked about 4 results index penalty with other members here - no one recovered without domain changing.
I am wondering how you was able to recover from it without domain change.
 
Smeklinis said:
We can talk here via PM.
I do not need any money - i am not SEO expert, also learning it.

I already told known solutions for me.
I have talked about 4 results index penalty with other members here - no one recovered without domain changing.
I am wondering how you was able to recover from it without domain change.
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Many of them have recovered but none is telling the true and don't share info like that. That is the problem. My website was like that for 5-6 months at least and I haven't changed anything. Just new casual posts and that penalty has lifted. That's why I don't want to change anything right now but 2 years is simply too much.
 
onlinework said:
Many of them have recovered but none is telling the true and don't share info like that. That is the problem. My website was like that for 5-6 months at least and I haven't changed anything. Just new casual posts and that penalty has lifted. That's why I don't want to change anything right now but 2 years is simply too much.
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My penalty has come due:

-Translated content (sites was not english).
-Banner ads and popunders.
-Couple of nofollow affiliate links in navigation menu.

I fixed all them and waiting will rankings come again as was.
As i recovered - i mean sites ranking on target keywords, but not i the same positions as was before penalty.
I should wait more time.
 
Bing and Google behave differently, I've experienced many time, although I optimise sites for Google but many times they don't work but get decent traction from Bing.
If you posting regular, disciplines content with proper KW research and onpage, for low competition , getting out of sandbox shouldn't be tough. You just need a couple of good KW/Pages to get your site out of sandbox.
 
rankjacker said:
Bing and Google behave differently, I've experienced many time, although I optimise sites for Google but many times they don't work but get decent traction from Bing.
If you posting regular, disciplines content with proper KW research and onpage, for low competition , getting out of sandbox shouldn't be tough. You just need a couple of good KW/Pages to get your site out of sandbox.
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Thank you for your response but I guess you haven't read the information posted.
 
Smeklinis said:
My penalty has come due:

-Translated content (sites was not english).
-Banner ads and popunders.
-Couple of nofollow affiliate links in navigation menu.

I fixed all them and waiting will rankings come again as was.
As i recovered - i mean sites ranking on target keywords, but not i the same positions as was before penalty.
I should wait more time.
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Mate, just checked and I have a lot of excluded pages in the webmaster. Please see the images below. Why some of them are classified as redirects? That might be the reason for no ranking the urls at all.
 

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onlinework said:
Mate, just checked and I have a lot of excluded pages in the webmaster. Please see the images below. Why some of them are classified as redirects? That might be the reason for no ranking the urls at all.
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I have a lot of excluded pages on all my sites too.

Yes of course it is a reason - not indexed page = no page at all.

As my excluded pages are mostly duplicates or without content, i do not paying attention to this. These pages for me is "Discovered - currently not indexed".
But if your pages are unique and with content - something wrong.

You should check "Pages with redirect" manually to find a reason.

Google now acts like slut :)
I made one new site 5 days ago - currently only homepage.
Made on-page SEO very good, added unique 1500 words well formatted content.
So after these 5 days after submitting it everyday to index in GSC and adding sitemap:

Status: Excluded
Discovered - currently not indexed
 
Smeklinis said:
I have a lot of excluded pages on all my sites too.

Yes of course it is a reason - not indexed page = no page at all.

As my excluded pages are mostly duplicates or without content, i do not paying attention to this. These pages for me is "Discovered - currently not indexed".
But if your pages are unique and with content - something wrong.

You should check "Pages with redirect" manually to find a reason.

Google now acts like slut :)
I made one new site 5 days ago - currently only homepage.
Made on-page SEO very good, added unique 1500 words well formatted content.
So after these 5 days after submitting it everyday to index in GSC and adding sitemap:

Status: Excluded
Discovered - currently not indexed
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So why the hell Google is doing that? Is the structure similar as your previous websites that were affected? It might be a theme problem, plugin problem anything.
 
onlinework said:
So why the hell Google is doing that? Is the structure similar as your previous websites that were affected? It might be a theme problem, plugin problem anything.
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I am using some html theme which i used on 1 site some time ago.
 
onlinework said:
I have 2 years old website which is performing pretty well on Bing but not on Google. I got like 2-3 clicks a day from Google so I believe it got hit by some kind of Sandbox for a longer period of time. All pages are indexed and all that stuff is good. Checked the domain history and everything looks clean. I still cannot figure it out. I taught to make a 301 redirect to a new domain but I am not sure if that will affect the Bing traffic as well. Anyone that has similar problems in the past please give a solution. The website is already monetized so I don't want to put it on risk and lose the Bing traffic as well. P.S This happened to only one of the websites I own.
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It’s a CWV problem that’s why you’re not ranking on Google,nothing to do with Sandbox
 
ProNo said:
It’s a CWV problem that’s why you’re not ranking on Google,nothing to do with Sandbox
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You mean on the Core Web Vitals reports in the webmaster tools? I don't have any errors there actually if you mean on that.
 
Internal links and nofollow links are safest bet.

Next is disavowing high power main keyword as anchor backlinks or make it generic keyword or remove or nofollow them.
 
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adsn said:
Internal links and nofollow links are safest bet.

Next is disavowing high power main keyword as anchor backlinks or make it generic keyword or remove or nofollow them.
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Internal linking is almost perfectly made. Most of the backlinks are nofollow and completely clean. We are talking about any other problem here but still can't figure it out.
 
onlinework said:
Internal linking is almost perfectly made. Most of the backlinks are nofollow and completely clean. We are talking about any other problem here but still can't figure it out.
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From this it sounds like you only need do follow links.
Or it may be panda which may be needing more translated content from other sources.
 
I don't think the do follow links are problem for getting 1-3 clicks a day with a lot of content. The problem is showing those 4 pages indexed. I checked now with site:domain.com and only 4 pages are indexed again.
 
6 ways to stop Google Sandbox from affecting your SEO efforts

1. Index your website
2. Make sure you have no penalties
3. Focus on content
  • Do keyword research
  • Avoid keyword stuffing
  • Prepare some long-reads.
4. Build backlinks step-by-step
5. Buy an already active website
6. Drive traffic from social media
 
linkhoney said:
6 ways to stop Google Sandbox from affecting your SEO efforts

1. Index your website
2. Make sure you have no penalties
3. Focus on content
  • Do keyword research
  • Avoid keyword stuffing
  • Prepare some long-reads.
4. Build backlinks step-by-step
5. Buy an already active website
6. Drive traffic from social media
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Mate, thank you for giving some tips but you haven't read the post.
 
I can tell you that it absolutely exists.

I had a website that was basically dead for a year and a half.

Lo and behold, after several months of not touching it or posting a single word, it came alive all of a sudden.

The first month, I had 200 visitors.

The next month, I had 300 and so on and so forth.

Google Sandbox exists.

This is actually good news.

Because, if you publish something and it appeared on the SERPs, immediately, then everybody and their dog would start publishing shit online.

That's the bottom line.

When Google put this "damping" effect, where you have to basically wait months to see your content appear (assuming that it will even appear in the first place), it discourages a lot of fly-by-night operators, get-rich-quick scammers, and other non-serious people.

So, this is good news.

Use this time to properly reverse-engineer your competitors and comer up with content and an overall website experience that beats your competitors.

Remember, when people type in keywords into Google, they're actually looking for something.

They're not doing it for their health.

They're not doing it because they have nothing else better to do.

If you're one of the few that understand the kind of value and experience that they are looking for and go out of their way to deliver it, you will continue to make money, hand over fist, for a very long time.
 
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