Googles SEO warning - Are you Ready for the next update?
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Blubb, that will not have the impact he wants to have. Google is good, but the algorythms they use, still doesn't work like the brain of a real human that's looking onto your page.. everything is based on the informations they gather, and we actually know which informations they gather..
LinkMaister
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"level the playing field" - i will believe that when i will stop seeing wikipedia ranking first for any term , or the algorithm won't be based on domain trust. Put the worst unreadable content on NY times, wikipedia, BBC, CNET, etc. and see how well it ranks. I find myself using advanced search operators more often than ever just to get rid of these big sites and find the real quality content i am interested in.
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beauxesprits
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This thing is really going to hurt the Freelancers... because I have come across a lot of freelancers who just do directory submission and bookmarking and get the website to rank, but now... watch out freelancers you have been kicked in your tummies.... Either learn to make genuine links or May your soul rest in Peace...
Nigel Farage
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They can count which sites get the most clicks from the results page, and they they can count bounce rates. They see links to deindexed sites. They see domain history.
When contemplating "What Google Knows", I think it would be a good idea to assume that they know more than you can imagine. In my life, I've found that it's human nature for people that are ignorant of a thing to minimize it's nature; to make the unknown small and therefore manageable, yet if you think about all the things that ARE known, they are always very complex and inter-related. It naturally follows that the unknown is also complex and inter-related, and people that think they can define the unknown with a few glib sentences are doing so as a defensive reaction, an alternative to squarely facing how frighteningly complex the unknown actually is.
This is not news. Already since over a year I found scrapebox backlinks (no matter how you do them) to not be of much use even with autoapprove lists. I found senuke campaigns in 90% of cases to not bring any positive effects. Also with AMR it seemed to be useful only on about 20-30% of runs.
Talking direct results only with indexing or even blasting those backlinks. I have ~ 50 sites so I know what I am saying.
Some of my authority sites for certain niches were de-ranked after promotions from page 1 to page 2. And they did not come back stronger. If at all they got to the same first page ranking (like position 8 or 9 for example) again.
In another case, I have a site that is in top3 but the content is 100% stolen from another similiar site with only a few minor changes and that site has like 1000 visitors/day still , here I only did light promotions.
So the point is.... from now on...
All you have to do is copy successful sites steal their content and place only a few backlinks and you will probably kill that other site.
What will happen now is that people are just going to clone websites, steal the unique content, modify it a bit, but keep the website infrastructure , design the same to get the same bounce rate and returning visitors.
Talking direct results only with indexing or even blasting those backlinks. I have ~ 50 sites so I know what I am saying.
Some of my authority sites for certain niches were de-ranked after promotions from page 1 to page 2. And they did not come back stronger. If at all they got to the same first page ranking (like position 8 or 9 for example) again.
In another case, I have a site that is in top3 but the content is 100% stolen from another similiar site with only a few minor changes and that site has like 1000 visitors/day still , here I only did light promotions.
So the point is.... from now on...
All you have to do is copy successful sites steal their content and place only a few backlinks and you will probably kill that other site.
What will happen now is that people are just going to clone websites, steal the unique content, modify it a bit, but keep the website infrastructure , design the same to get the same bounce rate and returning visitors.
beauxesprits
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Whatever they do or whatever they have done..... Google Bot cannot beat the human mind... It is Google Vs BHW members and everyone knows who the hell is the BOSS..... 
Barbarossa
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Hey Matt, why not just scrap the whole organic serps shit and use that space for paid listings too?
CashFlowGuy
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To keep bounce rates low add videos. Most people will stay for a bit if they see a videos on your website. Picture and graphs also help out alot.
shapsp
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Google has to rely on some kind of metric/data to rank your site. and there 200 ranking factors, these factors are varying importance and backlinks play a big part, slowly google is paying more attention to what social media is recommending, and soon it will be all about google+ once google+ gets bulk of it's users logged in and it will start recording the CTRs and time on site and what creates interest. so seo will change but the initial ranking will have to be still relied on meta tags and backlinks. becoz, a 10000 sites can hire the best copywriters and write a content, how can google choose which is the best to rank within the elusive 1st page of google? it got to be backlinks and meta tags to give the initial push and all other factors will slowly influence your stay in the 1st page of google, if you make it there.
Smart SEO
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LinkMaister is so true I think Google should actually focus on high authority sites before us. I mean think about it when I search pretty much anything I automatically scroll half way down or go to page 2 without looking at the top 5. the top ones are always wiki or some news site. yes they do have original content but its always bullshit that never helps what your looking for. these sites should be given punishment not us!!
theadultsplayground
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Hey look it like this.... in near future you dont need to do backlinks at all!!! you save alot of money when it comes to tools and backlink services
I'm actually glad you brought this up as I never understood why some people just don't buy or pay someone to write original unique content for their websites.
For example when I was using Senuke X, I was paying the monthly fee of $147 plus expense of captchas, plus VPS hosting, indexing service, etc which totaled over $250.00 a month. Think about how many articles you can have written for that amount.
Smart SEO
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that would be good but why I all the top 10 had 20000 unique words each the how would Google rank them? it wont be first one to do it gets top spot. its more likely gonna be then based in backlinks
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Exactly!
I have a site that I'm having 20 high quality articles with 700+ words written for it each month and Google doesn't seem to care until I start throwing backlinks at the pages.
SaraJ
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This is because much of what Matt Cutts says isn't true.
