Google is *CHANGING* and so should you.

nice thank you

Well said and exactly why I don't come here much anymore.

so the bottom line here is that content (unique) is still king right?

Micallef said:

Now I have had to adapt in order to get around Google's pretty impressive supposed new ability to evaluate the quality of web 2.0 content. Web 2.0 networks are now a serious investment of time and energy, and I take every measure to ensure that Google will be deceived into thinking that my properties contain genuinely worthwhile content. It's a lot of work, but the results are still worthwhile - when applied to the correct money site.

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So the question is, then, how long will it take Google to make it so hard for us to deceive it that just creating (or outsourcing) true unique content is cheaper/easier? I'm sure that's the goal for them. Or are we already getting to that point? There are some pretty cheap sources of content writers around here, and I can get a whole lot of unique articles for the same price as the monthly subscription fee of SeNuke.

What you all have to remember that as google gets smarter so does
the internet marketer. as they evolve so do we

remember years ago we used to keyword stuff our sites then google evolve
everyone was like "boo hoo what shall we do now" we just have to step up

as one method or loop hole closes another one open's. and plus there are
many secrets we do not shear.. like i know how to get to the top of the most
published category in EZA am a sharing it??? NO!!!!

The trouble is... with all these millions of modern day monkeys using content spinners instead of typewriters how soon will it be before everything newly written will not be unique? I can see it happening at the current rate of 'progress'.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone has already spun the entire contents of the Oxford English Dictionary. Just kidding... maybe.

I've noticed this change as well...just put up a wordpress blog with 100% unique content for a business and my digg showed up on big G before the site did....it has been 3 days and my site still isn't indexed

and I didn't spin anything...paid a content writer

I agree that something is up with Google but what I think they want is to drive everyone into insanity with trying to rank so as to push them deeper into adwords. It's a plot I tell you. Google is an advertising company disguised as a search engine. The real money is in advertising. If they own search (which they do) and control SERPs (which they do) they can push and pull on both ends driving you towards media buying.

In the end it's still more interesting than anything else out there ...

I'll drink to the "slice-n-dice" of being a Blackhat Brain Surgeon...

Just my 2 cents...

good post , and useful 2. thanks

tonlilaz said:

i honestly was *this close* to buying senuke. but i've learned the hard way of the dangers of blind automation. There is nothing better than building and designing your own link wheel and backlink system that people wouldn't have considered possible because they're used to a computer to do the thinking for them.

for example, i used to use speedppc for doing ppc stuff....but the minute I started to think about what I was doing, and plan my ppc campaigns...my traffic started to improve and my conversions got better.

people tend to think that more is better....imo ONLY THOSE PPLE WHO'VE BEEN IN IM FOR A WHILE can live by that because they know the ins and outs of the net and understand/know what to do when something changes. but w/everybody else....the more is better philosophy is about as good as banging your head against the wall over and over and over again. At some point, you're just going to wind up with a bad headache.

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then again you can use SeNuke for just the registration process and write unique articles each time.

Back to the original thread - Great OP now you saturated my idea and we're gonna have people submitting mindful comments and then Google will find away around that too... I'm really sick of saturation buddy.

nvcowboy said:

I think they want is to drive everyone into insanity with trying to rank
so as to push them deeper into adwords.

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Google is no different than any other business out there trying to perfect their model in order to remain
relevant and competative. You can't fault them for that.

Once upon a time the internet was a new frontier and almost everything being published was fresh and unique.
First came the keyword and title stuffing that google eventually invalidated, then came the next generation of
spinners, the random content generators, the link farms, the autoblogs, the automated directory spammers,
article submitters etc.

And it all worked great for a while, and to some extent it still does when done correctly by those who know
what they're doing and have the experience to do it correctly, but the effort needed to produce results is
becoming greater and greater as google adjusts and tweaks their algorithms. As one poster said it's a cat and
mouse game, where for every move google makes one must adjust their own strategy to match, which boils down
to finding what they are valuing most at any given moment by continually testing and probing them. Instead many
people are simply content to create the same threads over and over about how to create a linkwheel, how to
submit to a link/article directory, yada yada..

There's a lot of good information on these forums by some very intelligent posters who occasionally take the time to
talk about more advanced concepts and new ideas. The other day one of the new mods SEO20 shared a beautiful
script on here that could easily be embedded on your site and silently redirect traffic to a handful of other websites
to increase views on those pages, without the visitor even leaving the initial page or realizing he had visited the other pages.

Things like that are a work of art, but many times after a few posts the threads end up spiraling out of control when
the monkeys get out of their cages and the conversation inevitably turns to 'blasting' and 'nuking' or new posters
demanding every last step be explained in detail. It's a shame really. :crazy:

This is exactly why the future of successful Internet Marketing is in Social Networking sites.

Of course having your place in the search engine is definitely worth spending some time doing things right, but if you need money now then you need to think out of the box, and trying to dominate the first page of schmoogle off the beat is not going to happen right away..

The thing is, any timeyou use a method that automates a process... and thousands of other people are doing the same thing... you can rest assured it is not going to continue working for long..

For me BHW is like a love/hate relationship... I love all of the things i have learned from here, but at the same time, everytime someone shares an invaluable secret I'm like - great now that is gonna be saturated too...

Here is a tip ... not that i want BHW to loseit;s value.. but next time you comeup with a great unconventional way to get money online, just sahre it with the people you know and love.. dont ruin it for everyone by saturating it. If you wanna share.. share the concept.. not the exact method .... for your own good..

just my $0.02

TopHat777 said:

For me BHW is like a love/hate relationship... I love all of the things i have learned from here, but
at the same time, everytime someone shares an invaluable secret I'm like - great now that is gonna be saturated too...

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This is true to some extent unfortunately. The more I do this the more I appreciate the need to stay elastic and adaptable at all
times, otherwise you just end up going the way of the yahoos, netscapes, and myspaces of the world, who couldn't change fast
enough to stay relevant and were content to keep doing what they were doing until it didn't work anymore.

Personally I could care less about Google changing. It FB + YT that I'm more worried about.

-MarketerX-

bobbys said:

If you are so lazy and unoriginal that you cannot come up
with a unique 10-20 word spun phrase to post out of the nearly 200,000 words in the English language, then you really
should not be using scrapebox or programs like it in the first place because believe me when I say that you will get absolutely
no benefit from it.

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As of October 2009 there are a million words in the English language lane:

grayhatman said:

As of October 2009 there are a million words in the English language lane:

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Well then there ya go, even more reason to be original

why we have to put some duplicate content i don't understand ?

nice post.

You're absolutely right, it's SO MUCH more worth your time and effort to get or create unique content for your sites, or for content to be used on authority sites for backlinks, than it is wasting your time spamming.

That being said, if you can create a unique article, and spin it VERY well for use with SENuke, by not only spinning but by using double or nested spinning, which means you are using multiple stories within the spin, you can do VERY well in terms of getting your content indexed.

Google gets smarter, as always, but there will always be a way

It has already been said here that google is an advertising company that practically owns search and serp for the internet.

Don't forget for a moment that they are a commercial enterprise whose overriding business aim is to make money for the shareholders. Clearly advertising is their biggest key to this.

At the moment they are encouraging businesses in to get listed on the free business listings which (depending on the kw phrase used) will always appear on P1.

Businesses that can get ranking in this way will become accustomed to the exposure they get... Do not be surprised when the big g turns these listings over to the Adwords paid format!! Probably in the next year or two.

a good read time to look for changes....changes are good for those who can adapt