creatorsaurabh001
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msadax
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It's funny that you posted that, I was just scanning the, "Most Active" listings and like Aty stated, those are FAKE BIDS.
They are using the same tactics Car Dealers use at auctions where the public is allowed to bid.
The Car Dealer selling the vehicle stands next to the auctioneer trying to pump up the potential PUBLIC buyers who typically have no clue of the true value of the vehicle.
While he's in the auction booth, he has FAKE BIDDERS planted in the crowd.
Their job is to start the bidding if there are no initial takers. Next, they create FAKE buzz by inciting a bidding frenzy.
Their overall mission is to inspire the un-knowledgeable public to engage in over bidding.
Take the domain j26.com, which is currently listed at: $4,750.00. The stats say, there has been 63 bids.
Now, examine the facts:
If you search the archive.org database, you will find that the domain was registered with a registrar called Easyspace in 2000 and was essentially parked for years.
In 2013, it was redirected to: rubyjelly.co.uk, which was a failed online shop that eventually went defunct.
Around 2017 it was redirected to 4787.com, which is a Chinese site that takes forever to load.
Now examine the Backlink architecture:
What??? No backlinks
The ONLY thing that domain has got going for it - is its AGE.
In summation, there is NO viable reason ANY domainer would pay $5k for that domain name, even if it is only 3 characters.
That's why those bids are FAKE!
They are using the same tactics Car Dealers use at auctions where the public is allowed to bid.
The Car Dealer selling the vehicle stands next to the auctioneer trying to pump up the potential PUBLIC buyers who typically have no clue of the true value of the vehicle.
While he's in the auction booth, he has FAKE BIDDERS planted in the crowd.
Their job is to start the bidding if there are no initial takers. Next, they create FAKE buzz by inciting a bidding frenzy.
Their overall mission is to inspire the un-knowledgeable public to engage in over bidding.
Take the domain j26.com, which is currently listed at: $4,750.00. The stats say, there has been 63 bids.
Now, examine the facts:
Code:
WHOIS search results
Domain Name: j26.com
Registry Domain ID: 25811955_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Updated Date: 2019-05-27T20:35:15Z
Creation Date: 2000-04-27T18:34:17Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-04-27T18:34:17Z
Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLCIf you search the archive.org database, you will find that the domain was registered with a registrar called Easyspace in 2000 and was essentially parked for years.
In 2013, it was redirected to: rubyjelly.co.uk, which was a failed online shop that eventually went defunct.
Around 2017 it was redirected to 4787.com, which is a Chinese site that takes forever to load.
Now examine the Backlink architecture:
What??? No backlinks
The ONLY thing that domain has got going for it - is its AGE.
In summation, there is NO viable reason ANY domainer would pay $5k for that domain name, even if it is only 3 characters.
That's why those bids are FAKE!
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Upon further review, there are things going on in the backdrop.
First, Estibot gives provides this evaluation = $39,000
The keyword Research Volume is as follows: 18,100 searches p/m with a $0 CPC.
And, then there is THIS! TWQ is the acronym for The White Queen. It was/is a popular British Drama that launched back in 2013.
https://www.tumblr.com/search/show: twq
So basically, people are bidding on that 18k per month traffic with a ZERO CPC, hoping that they can bait, switch and convert???
P.S. This is another reason why you do not trust Estibot's valuations UNLESS you own the domain and their evaluation says potential buyers have struck a goldmine.
First, Estibot gives provides this evaluation = $39,000
The keyword Research Volume is as follows: 18,100 searches p/m with a $0 CPC.
And, then there is THIS! TWQ is the acronym for The White Queen. It was/is a popular British Drama that launched back in 2013.
https://www.tumblr.com/search/show: twq
So basically, people are bidding on that 18k per month traffic with a ZERO CPC, hoping that they can bait, switch and convert???
P.S. This is another reason why you do not trust Estibot's valuations UNLESS you own the domain and their evaluation says potential buyers have struck a goldmine.
Akuchi
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Yeah, GoDaddy and all the other domain name providers have a habit of artificially making all of their domains appear really expensive. When you check to see how much your domain is worth, it gives you these artificial prices to temp you to use GoDaddy to sell your domain. What a scam lol.
Badboy Enterprise
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it must be working for them since there are so many doing this for so longIt's funny that you posted that, I was just scanning the, "Most Active" listings and like Aty stated, those are FAKE BIDS.
They are using the same tactics Car Dealers use at auctions where the public is allowed to bid.
The Car Dealer selling the vehicle stands next to the auctioneer trying to pump up the potential PUBLIC buyers who typically have no clue of the true value of the vehicle.
While he's in the auction booth, he has FAKE BIDDERS planted in the crowd.
Their job is to start the bidding if there are no initial takers. Next, they create FAKE buzz by inciting a bidding frenzy.
Their overall mission is to inspire the un-knowledgeable public to engage in over bidding.
Take the domain j26.com, which is currently listed at: $4,750.00. The stats say, there has been 63 bids.
Now, examine the facts:
Code:WHOIS search results Domain Name: j26.com Registry Domain ID: 25811955_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.godaddy.com Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com Updated Date: 2019-05-27T20:35:15Z Creation Date: 2000-04-27T18:34:17Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2019-04-27T18:34:17Z Registrar: GoDaddy.com, LLC
If you search the archive.org database, you will find that the domain was registered with a registrar called Easyspace in 2000 and was essentially parked for years.
In 2013, it was redirected to: rubyjelly.co.uk, which was a failed online shop that eventually went defunct.
Around 2017 it was redirected to 4787.com, which is a Chinese site that takes forever to load.
Now examine the Backlink architecture:
What??? No backlinks
The ONLY thing that domain has got going for it - is its AGE.
In summation, there is NO viable reason ANY domainer would pay $5k for that domain name, even if it is only 3 characters.
That's why those bids are FAKE!
otherwise they would have stopped faking it already
right?
Kilterman
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I think the domain age is the detail most are missing.
The age may not be seemingly "Worth it" but I have seen a competitor purchasing "aged" domains to simply 301 them assumingly passing the trust of the aged domain on?
20 year old domain might be doing nothing other than passing 20 years worth of "Trust"
The age may not be seemingly "Worth it" but I have seen a competitor purchasing "aged" domains to simply 301 them assumingly passing the trust of the aged domain on?
20 year old domain might be doing nothing other than passing 20 years worth of "Trust"
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I concur, with an addendum...
That site was previously used by 2 different sites as a redirect to pass on trust.
BUT, that current price of $6,000.00??? One can EASILY find domains with much better metrics at a fraction of the cost of twq. I typically keep eyes on such domains to see where it ends up and how they use and why, and I'll be watching this one.
That site was previously used by 2 different sites as a redirect to pass on trust.
BUT, that current price of $6,000.00??? One can EASILY find domains with much better metrics at a fraction of the cost of twq. I typically keep eyes on such domains to see where it ends up and how they use and why, and I'll be watching this one.
Kilterman
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Some random domain park-er told me the value is in collectible domains.
The smaller the domain name the more collectible and valued.
I don't know if true.
This was told to me by a random a long time ago through Skype?
ScaperMarket
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I guess if they have a few letters, they are worth more because of how rare they are.
EmotionalKnapsack
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This is all about brevity. Shorter domains generally receive more traffic. Just like how shorter keywords get more hits than long-tail keywords. Shorter domains are easier to remember and thusly are able to carry more brand-weight. Companies see commercial use in these domains especially for acronyms. Especially if they are webmasters themselves and know they can build a small brand around a domain and for whatever reason can benefit by redirecting it to their brand/business which already has traction but uses a longer domain. A domain name like ARL dot come could apply to thousands of companies and projects but a very specific URL like AmericanResourcesLimited is only going to appeal to 1 single buyer looking for that exact domain. Also, since there is only 1 buyer there is no competition to leverage so you're literally holding the domain hostage praying the buyer has enough discretionary budget to pay a high premium.
This perceived commercial use turns into "commercial intent" for top-level domain flippers. Top-level domain flippers know that commercial entities posses more capital and have access to many sources of funding. So they can afford to pay more and are more likely to do so. These top-level domain flippers source their domains from mid-level flippers. Top-level flippers are more keen to what qualifies as a domain with high commercial intent, they have established methods of reaching commercial end-users, and have the time to wait on a classified listing/sale to close. Such as if all 4 letters are vowels or consonants. Those would be less likely to have commercial intent (I'd assume) because there would be less acronyms that use 4 vowels or 4 consonants. Mid-level flippers know some of this information but lack some understanding and do not have established channels for finding commercial buyers, also they are less willing to wait for a $20K sale. They would rather compromise with more volume and lower sales. So a mid-level domain flipper might buy up a bunch of 4 letter domains and then pump the bids hoping one strikes a chord with either a commercial entity or a top-level flipper.
Mid-level flippers may have the highest profit margins as I'd imagine they source their domains from bulk buyers.
This perceived commercial use turns into "commercial intent" for top-level domain flippers. Top-level domain flippers know that commercial entities posses more capital and have access to many sources of funding. So they can afford to pay more and are more likely to do so. These top-level domain flippers source their domains from mid-level flippers. Top-level flippers are more keen to what qualifies as a domain with high commercial intent, they have established methods of reaching commercial end-users, and have the time to wait on a classified listing/sale to close. Such as if all 4 letters are vowels or consonants. Those would be less likely to have commercial intent (I'd assume) because there would be less acronyms that use 4 vowels or 4 consonants. Mid-level flippers know some of this information but lack some understanding and do not have established channels for finding commercial buyers, also they are less willing to wait for a $20K sale. They would rather compromise with more volume and lower sales. So a mid-level domain flipper might buy up a bunch of 4 letter domains and then pump the bids hoping one strikes a chord with either a commercial entity or a top-level flipper.
Mid-level flippers may have the highest profit margins as I'd imagine they source their domains from bulk buyers.
Good post. A year or so back I bought an aged (1990s) domain from a godaddy auction. The domain was three words, but could be used for many different purposes. Had a good backlink portfolio. Was going to setup my own PBN with it. After a few months of working on the site, slowly, I received an email from godaddy out of the blue. Somebody offered to buy the domain for $1k (I paid about $500). I chuckled and countered their offer with 10k. To my surprise the buyer offered $5k. I graciously accepted and sold the domain for 10x profit.
This experience taught me there is money to Be made in domains. You just need to have patience and the ability to buy good names.
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EmotionalKnapsack, you pretty much summed up the domain name game in a few paragraphs. If a person is going to flip domain names at a high level, having a (dogged - razor sharp) domain name Broker is a MUST! Anyone who consistently monitors domain name sales will concur with that statement.