German people, how do you play IM?

Vindancur

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I've recently moved to Germany and honestly the insane rules towards websites is throwing me off.
You need to provide your full name and address on every activity online that you plan on making money with, I don't know what I'm supposed to do as I don't want my name tainted with stupid tests when people google my name (i.e. when applying for a job).

How do you guys do it? I feel like i'm stuck..
 
If you mean domain owner etc. Business name? Random name?
If you mean affiliate and CPA networks etc. its pretty normal to know at least name and adress of you business partners eh?

Its almost impossible to stay anonymous if you do any serious legal business, especially in first tier countries like Germany...
 
If you mean domain owner etc. Business name? Random name?
If you mean affiliate and CPA networks etc. its pretty normal to know at least name and adress of you business partners eh?

Its almost impossible to stay anonymous if you do any serious legal business, especially in first tier countries like Germany...

I mean just trying to rank a website with Adsense, opening a Shopify store, a Youtube channel... everything requires your address which is pretty ridiculous. Otherwise they track you down with fine letters.
 
That's not public information, so why would you care too much about it? You can also rent a PO postbox for where info is public, not everywhere its accepted though.
 
That's not public information, so why would you care too much about it? You can also rent a PO postbox for where info is public, not everywhere its accepted though.
Because it's not about whether the information is public or not. Those sneaky rats are trying to control everything and everywhere. They want to know what you eat for breakfast and what hardness is your poo in the evening. OP doesn't want that.
 
Yes that exactly stuck me too, I was trying to find a way to register DE domain without being a Germany lol
 
who said it got to all be real (( wink wink ))

think out the box ...

with a vps csn be in any country

what rules (( rules are to be broken .

learn about stelth accounts good luck .
 
Because Germany is a piece of shit. But some people (me) are stuck here and cannot move that easily!
lucky sod all your car tools and cars are perfect....

use a vpn
 
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well check the answers by @redarrow ... you still wonder why?
Well that would be Tax Evasion, and again. If the "Finanzamt" gets behind this, then you are literally FUCKED. Tax Evaders get treated like a murder here. Also, the German Finanzamt has a tool which is called "XPIDER" - It is a tool developed by Deutsche Börse which crawls over 100.000 Stores (including Amazon and Ebay) which collects data. And based on that it is used to track down people that do tax evasion.
There are some news that big sellers on eBay got caught by this tool doing tax evasion, so i wouldn't take this risk..
 
Also every Selbständiger is treated like a criminal by the Finanzamt

The one nice thing is that you can opt out of the German equivalent of social security and buy private products backed by stocks. Considering the German demographic trend that backs this ponzi scheme I don't understand how Germans who pay into it don't have daily panic attacks. They will never be able to retire if they have to count on this money.
 
Germany is strict but thats the reason why they are No. 1 in Europe by huge margin. I am not german but have huge respect because of their law practices
 
I know exactly what you mean. Its a big problem and really annoying. Like they want you to provide them with every kinda information, also you have to make your name, address etc. public on your website. Its ridiculous.

Someone told me before: You have to know how far you can go, until you come up their "radar". In other words: Of course you can build some websites, do CPA, try some Shopify stores and also make sales etc., but only until a specific level. Its like a "grey zone". There is no such thing as being "in" or being "out". There is a very big room inbetween, in which you can operate. I am not talking about any illegal activities tho.

One way to stay anonymous is to use a hosting which will hide your identity. Don't use a german one. Someone shared a list of offshore hostings on BHW. Don't register a .de domain. A .com is safe mostly. Also register your domain with an American or other foreign registrar. not with the german ones. Make a foreign PayPal account (for example I made a Thai one while I was staying in Thailand), which I use for small transactions such as for buying domains. Don't use your real address (american companies and others don't give a fuck anyway, I never got any message to verify my identity, especially not on $1 hostings)

Your goal should be to create a "smoke screen", which won't lead directly to you. As long as you are not into super illegal activities such as selling drugs or weapons online, nobody will care about you. As from what I wrote above: They don't even know you are german or living in Germany.

I know all this stuff above won't guarantee you being 100% anonymous (there is no such thing anyway), but it will protect you a little and keeps you under the radar if you just want to test things.

In short:

Don't use any german companies for hosting or domains.
Don't use a german Paypal account for buying them.
Don't use your german address

No shit, ONE TIME IN MY LIFE I used my german address and I ended up being accused for something I didn't do. Why? Because the attorneys couldn't make the different between two different domains.

Also you have to know how german police/attorneys etc. is working: "Charge against anonymous! Oh, we couldn't figure out who it was, because they use fake information..HMMM....CHARGED DROPPED!!!"

BUT, if you want everything to be "official", then you will have to do what is legit.
 
Germany is strict but thats the reason why they are No. 1 in Europe by huge margin. I am not german but have huge respect because of their law practices

No, its because Germany is the biggest LOW-WAGE SECTOR in Europe, but at the time the richest country in Europe. Now think about it. You provide your workers with a shitty salary to get bigger margins....but great, strongest economy in Europe..awesome. Its not because of the "laws". The laws are totally counterproductive in terms of business.
 
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