First article on iwriter rejected, should I continue with them?

jbilyj42 said:
Whats your English level? What niches you like to write for?
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Not exactly sure but I believe its higher than my douche level. Seriously though pretty high, its my first language and I read a fair amount. I'm a keyboard player so I have decent, but I wouldn't say great, knowledge about that stuff. I have a very strong background and extensive knowledge in the online real money gaming space, specifically poker, online casinos and sports betting. That's probably my strongest niche in terms of readily available knowledge. I guess I have somewhat wide interests after that but those are my areas of strong expertise. I can also read, write and speak spanish pretty well. I have to point out again though that I have absolutely zero experience writing anything on a professional basis.
 
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The research and writing side of things comes with practice. However, the quality of your work is more than good enough. I've seen and bought much worse content for much more money than you were getting for that.

As someone else said, for the quality of what you wrote, the cost was criminal. Don't undersell yourself.
 
Yesterday i rejected 5/25 articles because of bad grammar and because of writers don't read instructions.
 
I guess I'll keep going here and kind of make it a "journey" thread, even though the consensus seems to be that its a lousy way to make money. So far its not going well. I had one article accepted though, so I guess that's good. Had another article rejected. I'll get to that in a second but first today's utter catastrophe: I had just completed almost 2000 words, which took me four hours and quite a lot of research. I decided, "oh shoot, I haven't saved this at all and if the window closes my work will be lost". So I press "save as draft". Poof, gone. Nice feature morons. That alone has me close to quitting right now, I was gonna try to get to 10 articles and reevaluate but this is starting to look like a big fat zero. Here's the rejected article

2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Introduction
Lincoln's venerable luxury workhorse will continue into its 20th year of production for the 2018 model year. Lincoln unveiled a radical concept version for the 2017 model year, representing the fourth generation of the Navigator, which featured a significant exterior redesign including gull wing doors and automatically extending steps. While Lincoln says the latter two features won't make it into production the rest of the concept should give a good indication of what's likely to change for the fourth generation Navigator, which is quite a lot and not for the worse. In many ways the Navigator of 2015 is the same SUV as the first units that drove out of the Michigan Assembly Plant in 1998 and led to incredibly strong sales continuing through the late 2000's. If it's not broken why fix it? But the clock eventually runs out on even the greatest designs and that's especially true in the ultra-competitive luxury automobile market. With strong competition from Cadillac, Nissan and Land Rover, Lincoln has risen to the occasion with what may be one of the greatest vehicles ever to leave it's drawing boards. The 2018 Lincoln Navigator may prove a knockout blow to its competitors.
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Exterior
The 2018 Navigator will carry over the dramatic exterior revisions from the 2017 model year. The vehicle will appear completely new to those accustomed to prior generations. It will feature a new MKZ-inspired fascia with an over-sized mesh grill, giving the front profile an imposing, swanky quality lacking in its predecessors. The B and C pillars of the concept are virtually non-existent, and combined with the gigantic polished aluminum windmill rims and low profile tires gives it a decidedly high-end feel. The designers were clearly aiming to be the Rolls Royce of SUV's and they may well have succeeded.
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Interior
If there's one word to describe this interior its "stunning". The concept features a total of nine, you read that right, nine widescreen, multi-function monitors. The beautifully crafted leather seats appear lifted straight out of a corporate jet. In naming their flagship "Navigator", Lincoln showed a willingness to own the normally insulting label of "land yacht", a tradition proudly continued with the extensive use of teak wood which gives the titanic truck's cabin a decidedly nautical feel.
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Engine
The 3.5L EcoBoost V6 will continue powering the Navigator although its rumored the output will be bumped from 380 to 400HP.
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Performance
Expect the 2018 model's performance numbers to be slightly improved over 2016 due to modest overall weight reductions. For 2016 the 0-60mph time is 6.5 seconds. It will get to 100 in just under 18 seconds. Top speed is governor limited to 101mph and it will burn up the quarter mile in 14.9 seconds, impressive for a vehicle of its size with only a V6. It will stop from 70mph in 184 feet, significantly outperforming the Escalade's 194 feet.
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Gas Mileage
Barring significant aerodynamic improvements it will likely achieve the same 14/19 city/highway EPA rating of past models.
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Release Date
The 2018 model will be almost identical to the 2017 overhauled model. That will be available at dealerships starting in the fall of 2016.
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - MSRP
$65,000-$80,000 (est)
2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR - Value
The 2018 Lincoln Navigator will be an impressive machine in every way and in most objective categories it easily ties or surpasses the competition. But it's greatest achievement may be esthetic. It is a movingly beautiful car. Overall it's hard to argue that the 2018 Navigator is anything but a superb package for the price.
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The weird "2018 LINCOLN NAVIGATOR -" headings are just me trying to follow the requester's instructions to the letter. It was rejected citing the following "Sorry cannot accept this. The reason > too many grammatical issues in the text." Perhaps I should have sprinkled more greater than carrots throughout the article. Actually in all seriousness I would kind of like a critique if possible. If there are genuine grammatical errors I'm not seeing what they are other than maybe non standard use of quotation marks or other decisions which are primarily stylistic and some of it stems from not being able to use bold or italic. edit: guess there are two it's that should be its.

The thing with the save as draft erasing work is just totally inexcusable though. If it just happened to me its happened 100 times before, it appears to be due to the system requiring me to log back in, but I haven't even seen an internet forum with that issue in years much less a professional writing service with a built in text editor that requires you to use the web interface.

I'm also getting the uncomfotable feeling that it may be possible for these people to reject your article, not pay you, then use it anyway but not sure how that works.

Edit: I also attempted to write reviews of the requesters but they don't show up. The support guy told me it's because I probably forgot to rate the requester but I just tried writing a second review and there is no option to rate them. I've been around the internet a while and this site has scam written all over it.

Double Edit: The rating thing is a gigantic problem. If new accounts can't rate requesters those requesters can steal all the material of the new signups and maintain their five star rating.
 
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You need to get on Upwork and:
1. Optimize your social media profiles (fb page, g+, LinkedIn, Twitter) and link to your upwork profile (majority of upworkers dont fully utilize linking to their profiles). (1 day)
2. Get on Contently and keep it updated with your portfolio. (1 day)
3. Spend your time bidding on work and sending in proposals. (1 hour a day)
4. Have no more than 5 samples of various types of content and/or niches. You can send someone in a proposal.
5. Build more than 100 hours of work and work towards 1,000 and stay above 90% satisfaction rate.
6. Have a nice smooth website with various portfolio pieces of every niche/type of content you have written for. (1 day-1 week)
7. Be available, agencies and employers want to see your skype, email etc.
8. Have a process, and communicate that process within your profile and website.
9. Educate your clients on your capabilities, put a sample customer avatar together in a blog post on your site, of the types of clients you work (or want to) with; while explaining the concept of a customer avatar.
http://www.digitalmarketer.com/customer-avatar-worksheet/
Also have a sample content brief blog post on your site, like this pdf I found on a search to educate your clients and help them zero in on what they want. 50% of rewrites. and disappointmenta can be avoided if the clients knew and understood what a content brief and customer avatar was.
10. Find all the other big and medium digital narketing services agencies and shadow them on social media and see if they are in need of a freelancer.
I write on behalf of a national company that does biz with some big brands and not only contract with other agencies needing high end content, but also have to hire out various other forms of content for ourselves for various projects. Just letting you know what would make you stand out in my book. Good luck with your writing journey!
 
jbilyj42 said:
You need to get on Upwork and:
1. Optimize your social media profiles (fb page, g+, LinkedIn, Twitter) and link to your upwork profile (majority of upworkers dont fully utilize linking to their profiles). (1 day)
2. Get on Contently and keep it updated with your portfolio. (1 day)
3. Spend your time bidding on work and sending in proposals. (1 hour a day)
4. Have no more than 5 samples of various types of content and/or niches. You can send someone in a proposal.
5. Build more than 100 hours of work and work towards 1,000 and stay above 90% satisfaction rate.
6. Have a nice smooth website with various portfolio pieces of every niche/type of content you have written for. (1 day-1 week)
7. Be available, agencies and employers want to see your skype, email etc.
8. Have a process, and communicate that process within your profile and website.
9. Educate your clients on your capabilities, put a sample customer avatar together in a blog post on your site, of the types of clients you work (or want to) with; while explaining the concept of a customer avatar.
http://www.digitalmarketer.com/customer-avatar-worksheet/
Also have a sample content brief blog post on your site, like this https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://images.template.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/20052811/Example-Content-Marketing-Brief-Template.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiw3fDV2rXPAhXDPz4KHUNYBo0QFgg3MAM&usg=AFQjCNH5T1txTTkct9-zo3GPnB9TKmgExg&sig2=7nvbSQSQmsKzrukvCfdLgw I found on a search to educate your clients and help them zero in on what they want. 50% of rewrites. and disappointmenta can be avoided if the clients knew and understood what a content brief and customer avatar was.
10. Find all the other big and medium digital narketing services agencies and shadow them on social media and see if they are in need of a freelancer.
I write on behalf of a national company that does biz with some big brands and not only contract with other agencies needing high end content, but also have to hire out various other forms of content for ourselves for various projects. Just letting you know what would make you stand out in my book. Good luck with your writing journey!
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Thanks man that looks like really good stuff but a little intimidating at the same time. I did sign up at upwork though so gotta start working on the next steps.
 
Col_Kilgore said:
Thanks, what is a good keyword density? I've literally not wrote a single article in my life, only internet posts of various sorts. Will sites like that accept someone with zero experience and an empty porfolio?

Edit: ok I get the gist of these now, thanks a lot, looks very interesting.
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I suggest that you keep your keyword density to 1%. Anything more than that is spammy already.
 
Ok, looks like this is at least a confirmed partial scam. The guy above who rejected my automotive article (ddrastrovac) is back, calling himself a slightly different spelling of his name. Under his name there are four glowing reviews, two by someone called elchapo202 and two others by someone calling themselves guzman4050. So that's supposed to be two people? El chapo guzman, the famous mexican drug kingpin, with a number that has a zero in the second spot? And those are the only reviews under this Drastovac's name even though he has almost 200 requests. I can't believe a site that deals in real money transactions openly allows shenanigans like this. Now I can only assume the first account I wrote the Lincoln Navigator article for, ddrastrovac, probably had no intention of ever paying.

At a minimum iwriter has major integrity issues. It looks like this site has no safeguards in place to prevent fraud or article theft.
 
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I've ordered more then 500 articles from iwriter and my approval rate is somewhere around 80%. Stopped using the site since quality is not up to my standard anymore, not even for PBN's.
 
your article was pretty good but you had some big misses. one wasn't exactly a double negative but it was close.

i could maybe see it if it were a very selective/ high paying job, but with what you proposed it should have been accepted.

i would wonder if the dude just copied it and then didn't pay you for it
 
onlineonly said:
I've ordered more then 500 articles from iwriter and my approval rate is somewhere around 80%. Stopped using the site since quality is not up to my standard anymore, not even for PBN's.
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I'm getting the impression that its just kind of the wild west. There are clearly legit requesters but it looks like they also have fraudsters of various stripes operating more or less openly. Guess it is what it is. If you got on a lot of favorite writer lists it could probably work because people that like you aren't going to be randomly stealing your stuff, rejecting and giving low ratings. Just looks like the initial phase might be a real slog.
 
galavance said:
your article was pretty good but you had some big misses. one wasn't exactly a double negative but it was close.

i could maybe see it if it were a very selective/ high paying job, but with what you proposed it should have been accepted.
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In one I mixed never and or and I've done similar stuff, but yeah for $2 it seems like it shouldn't be getting rejected. The first one I shared itt was kinda BS heavy but I actually thought the content in the Navigator article was pretty good. I mean, come on, two freakin dollars.
i would wonder if the dude just copied it and then didn't pay you for it
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Pretty sure he did, he can probably just open source code and copy away right? If not I know there are OCR solutions.
 
After deliberating further and reading additional things on the net I must conclude it looks like the site is a wide open scam. The most disturbing thing I am seeing is that they will arbitrarily ban accounts for no reason before reaching the minimum payment threshold so that the writer never gets paid and iwriter keeps the money. My scamdar is well honed from years of dealing with shady businesses and I have to admit I felt uneasy about this site from just about the first moment. After the first rejected article I suspected something was off but by the second one there was little doubt I was at least scammed by the requester. Now I'm reading tale after tale of the site itself engaging in all types of unethical behavior including banning people so they don't have to pay. My gut tells me if I keep writing I'll never make it to the $20 withdrawal threshold. I've only spent maybe 8 hours or so on it so I think I'll cut my losses and wrap it up.

My final verdict is that the site is a likely a wide-open, conscious scam with probably no redeeming value for perspective writers.
 
I don't think your english is broken .It's was well structured and written in correct grammar .But I think you should write for Iwriter .they pays slave wage there and too picky.Go for constantcontent or textbroker instead .
 
I'm going to second Upwork. There are plenty of shit jobs but there are enough diamonds in the rough for a talented writer to land a good job with enough effort. More than I can personally say for iWriter.
 
I order from iwriter. I have more than 400 orders and successful jobs. For 3$ for 500 words, i don't expect to get high-quality articles. So I just accept articles that are well researched, have all the info I need, and that follow instructions.

I had several bad experiences where I got copy paste articles and paid for it. Thankfully they give me money back and banned users.

I tried Fiverr and several upwork writers and some of the forum writers, and I must say that they want more money than those writers on Fiverr but their quality is lower.

On Fiverr a guy with I don't know how many thousands of reviews with 5 stars is worse than mediocre iwritter writer. I m proofreading a writer that write 1000 words for 12$, and his writing is not bad, but for that money, he need to provide quality which he doesn't provide. He has grammar mistakes and all other mistakes that I need to go trough and fix.

Here are my stats:
Approved: 413, Rejected: 216 (Approval rate: 66%)
And trust me I accept any article that is readable and well researched and all other mistakes. Not one of those 413 articles was without mistakes.
 
@Col_Kilgore Article in your first post would be approved by me. It is well written without mistakes. But maybe you didn't follow instructions. Articles I decline are those that did not follow instructions or articles without paragraphs that are not readable.
 
Content producers will always be frustrated with content buyers and content buyers will always be frustrated with content producers.

I've come to believe that's the way of the world.

When you find something good make sure you appreciate it.
 
Yea, if you wish to give me more details about your self you can contact me too, maybe we can go in some joint ventures or you can maybe write for me.
 
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