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First article on iwriter rejected, should I continue with them?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Col_Kilgore, Sep 27, 2016.

  1. Col_Kilgore

    Col_Kilgore Newbie

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    Apologies to mods if this is the wrong subforum or even the wrong forum but I was turned onto iwriter on BHW and really don't know where else to post this. TLDR; at bottom.

    So I signed up for iwriter a while back and yesterday finally decided to take a crack at writing content. I chose to write a home page article for some kind of small directory page of reverse number lookup sites. The keyword was reverse number lookup and I ended up with a 5% keyword usage, or whatever the term is, is that good?

    The content they had on the page was maybe 150 words but this guy wanted 500, which I thought was really a lot for such a simple page. But I managed to get to 505 words. The instructions were skeletal at best, in broken English but the client had a 5 star rating and a low rejection rate so I wrote the following. It contains an errant apostrophe at the end on "guy's" which I couldn't remove, but that was not cited as a reason for rejection.

    It was rejected outright with the flimsy criticism that the article "needs to have parts like real front page but with different content". Gosh, thanks, that explains everything.

    I fired off a support ticket writing

    I got back lazy boilerplate with a link to an FAQ page that stated, in broken English, on a site supposedly providing high quality web content "While this doesn't happen often unless poorly content is written" the client may arbitrarily reject what's submitted at any time for any reason or none.

    My first question is, is the content I wrote good/bad? What can be improved? What should I focus on while writing content for websites? Is the 5% keyword occurrence rate good, what's optimal?

    My second question of course is if iwriter is a good site to be doing this or if there are better options for someone who wants to get started writing web content. Between the instructions and the explanation I was left with unsettling feeling that the article may have actually been rejected because the client couldn't understand the words which were used in it. If that's a regular occurrence it would be a tough call to continue on that site.

    TLDR; I'm a total noob content writer, should I continue using iwriter? Their platform seems shady and unprofessional. Are there better options for someone looking to get into and polish their content writing abilities while making a little money?
     
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    Yup it's pretty much normal.. I get like 90% of my articles approved. Some people who order articles are just outright dicks and will decline your article even if it's a really good one.
     
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    Article sounds good, but maybe the guy just didn't like it. That's why I writer sucks. You can get rejected even though your article is good
     
  4. Col_Kilgore

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    Ok, thanks guys. I may try a couple more then. 90% would certainly be an acceptable approval rate for me.
     
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    How much was be paying for the article
     
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    Well 90% is not bad for me either.. but it's kinda frustrating when you realize that your article got declined,even though it's a good one.. on the other side, some days for example you may not be into writing and you send a bad article.. and the person is super happy, like you wrote a Guardian article or something haha...
     
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    Is there another option you would recommend?
     
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    $2.43 lol
     
  9. JasonXDC

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    I still have nightmares from last year when I ordered 200 articles from iwriter.That platform is rife with shitty writers that makes the good scribes look bad.

    You seem like a decent chap who should probably try better sites like up work(at least where prices are concerned).

    If I were you, i'd give iwriter a miss and explore other options.
     
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    I would also be interested to know if anyone has an alternative to iwriter.
     
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    Funny that you mention that, why does it feel like so many people hired to manage writers can't write a damn? Few things as painful as getting grammar tips from someone who can barely string together a coherent sentence.

    Also, $2.43 for 500 words? That's fucking robbery. At least you're learning about the assholes in the business, I figure you have to account for getting screwed over between 10-30% of the time.
     
  12. The Curator

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    I found one of the top writers off of iwriter on a different platform, just horrible writing.
    I wont bother with that site, even getting 100% satisfactory writers with 2k hours off of upwork doesnt have the best quality.
    If someone wants quality from a writer they need 4 things, 2 examples, a client brand summary for voice etc., a detailed brief of the assignment (one keyword doesnt cut it), and a customer avatar to target.
    I wouldnt want to write for anyone without those 4 things, and often reject jobs for those requirements (write for a national award winning content provider)..
     
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    Thanks I'm checking out up work now. Is e lance similar?
     
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    So accounting for risk you might reasonably assume the job's expected value is equivalent to $1.50 or so. I was kind of figuring that but willing to spend a little time up front if climbing the ranks on iwriter has any value.
     
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    A keyword density of 5% is way too much. Anyways, if you are into writing, then why bother with these low paying gigs? There are hundreds of sites that pay anywhere from $50 to a few hundred for an article. Listverse, for an example, pays $100 and Toptenz pays $50.
     
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    Elance was bought out by up work. I was an Elance freelancer a lifetime ago.
     
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    Something like that. It's one of those things you'd have to feel out.

    Some places it's worth working up the ranks, but it feels harder and harder to find them since they can get saturated with writers willing to work for pennies who gobble up work even if they write for shit. That all said, I don't know specifics about iwriter these days so I can't tell you whether it's worth the grind, though you can ask yourself how long you're willing to work at Foxconn rates for a chance to make an Anglosphere minimum wage.
     
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    I've gotten myself into a bit of a third world morass of late. $2/hr would be nice work if I could get it. Thanks for all the great replies!
     
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    Thanks, what is a good keyword density? I've literally not wrote a single article in my life, only internet posts of various sorts. Will sites like that accept someone with zero experience and an empty porfolio?

    Edit: ok I get the gist of these now, thanks a lot, looks very interesting.
     
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  20. The Curator

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    Whats your English level? What niches you like to write for?