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[Example] You Want to Know Why You Aren't Making Money?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by SEO, Jul 9, 2017.

  1. SEO

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    I see so many posts on here asking how to make money, or why can't I make any money?

    The answer: most people are lazy.

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    I see answers getting spoonfed on here every. single. day. and very few people take action. Many times I don't care simply because I take joy in the people who do succeed because they work hard. Why waste any time on the complainers?

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    But, I'm sure there are still some complainers still sitting around scratching their head wondering "why aren't I making money?"

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    So, I thought I'd check up on one of my spoonfed posts from a few months back to see if any progress has been made. The Answer:

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    And now I present: An example why many people on here can't make any damn money!

    https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/how-could-my-site-not-be-ranking.943638/

    Read that, realize that the person took no ones advice, they'll continue not ranking, not making any money, then get to work. Go on!

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  2. shephard

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    So how much money have you made ?
     
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  3. zepita

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    Truth is that all my passive income i built it while I was employed. Now that I have all the free time in the world I'm stuck and can't do anything.
     
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    Recession has made things really bad.
     
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    I think it's understanding and knowledge. If anyone knew how to make money for certain they would do it.

    But if you don't know how then you can't do it. Or you think you know how and you convince yourself it's too hard (because really you don't know how).

    So you have to have faith and just keep heading for your goal.

    As a great man once said, if you aim yourself at a goal, and keep working hard enough you'll surely achieve it.
     
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  6. SEO

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    More than enough to support my family. I'm not here to impress anyone with my numbers though. I'm hoping to motivate people to take action and show them that you can be spoonfed until your liver turns to foie gras, but without action, you're just wasting your time.

    I started my business while I was working a normal day job too, and I'm very happy I did it that way. Just keep building and don't rest on your laurels. You never know when an income stream might get wiped out.

    No doubt, but that doesn't change the fact that you still have to keep trying. This all underscores the importance of building things when times are good.

    I think that is the excuse a lot of people use to not try. When I started out, I had no idea what I was doing, but I was doing. A lot of people spend all their time "learning." The best learning that can be done is doing and screwing up. I've screwed up so much in this business. You just keep moving.

    Also, I'm not trying to hold myself up in some high-esteem as the end-all-be-all example. There are many people on here that probably trounce me in monthly earnings, but I don't care. I'm happy for those people. I care about being able to provide for my family and save for the future. Good luck to anyone who chooses to take action.
     
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  7. uncutu

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    So true. I see these people all the time just like you do, complaining of not earning. Ask them what have they tried and turns out they are half-assing some method, putting in the least amount of effort in. If you're lazy....if you're afraid of failure...you're not going to make it here.

    Another thing...The dirty secret with “passive income" businesses is that they all initially started out as “active income" businesses. All of them.
     
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    Because of this, 99.9% of all people ever see is the tip of the iceberg

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  9. SEO

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    I completely agree with you. The bulk of my income is fairly passive (mostly display ads). I'll never forget when I first started out. My wife thought it was a waste of time for me to be writing all of these articles each day when I was making $0.10 (on a good day!). Now, she is fully on board and helps in basically every part of our business. She gladly admits to being wrong about my idea of making money online.
     
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  10. SEO

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    I want to make this part clear if this post offends you:
    • Either your attitude is wrong,
    • or you might not be cut out for running your own business.
    I also want to make clear:
    • There's nothing wrong with failure. There is no shame in failing. But don't let your failures define you, or keep you back from progress.
    • There is also nothing wrong with not being an entrepreneur. Some people flourish as entrepreneurs, and others flourish in a more controlled environment such as traditional employment.
    I didn't write this post to brag, or to shame. I wrote it to motivate people who think they want to do this, but just aren't sure why they aren't making progress. I just happened to have a living, breathing example that shows that learning and asking questions is meaningless without action.

    I would love for every person who reads this to succeed. But many will just be spectators:

     
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  11. SEO

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    For anyone wondering what I consider my biggest screw up to be. To date, I believe this was my biggest screw up in online business:

    It took me like 1.5 - 2 years to discover this thing called "keyword research."

    Imagine spending nearly 2 years of your life writing articles daily after coming home from work, and only like 5%-10% gaining any kind of traffic (and I'm not even talking good traffic, I'm meaning any traffic).

    Is it any wonder that in a good month I made $30? I remember one family member quipping "hey! That's a tank of gas!" I think they were trying to be kind, but it felt like a dagger to the heart because I knew how much work I put in to generate that $30/month.
     
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  12. Simox123

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    The problem here is that in tutorials , people just say shit like :
    -Do your keyword research
    -Find the best keywords with no competition

    and then they show you their salary to "hype" you.

    The truth is that the majority of tutorials here are 90 % bullshit , sure , there're 5 to 10 % max of good tutorials and that's what people should look for and use.

    With that said , can you show your monthly income ? (I'm also working hard for 30 $ / month , shieeet)
     
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  13. SEO

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    Ironically, it took me two years to learn of keyword research when I started. That information is gold, albeit basic and fairly well-known now. Keyword research is so dead-easy with tools like KWFinder that this information alone can make you a lot of money if you take the time to learn it and write the content. There are tons of resources to learn how to execute proper keyword research, so don't be upset that someone doesn't lay out a 10,000 word post on how to research keywords.

    Are there a bunch of tools running around posing as experts with this type of basic advice? Yep! That part sucks, but those people are pretty easy to identify. The unsexy truth of this business is that the bulk of the money people make come from very fundamental things. Mine certainly does. Sure, there are some clever methods, but most of it boils down to this:
    1. Make good content.
    2. Put appealing offer inside good content.
    3. Get people to your good content. [This is where black hat and white hat comes in]
    4. People click on offer.
    5. ...
    6. Profit.
    I can understand some of your frustrations. There are a lot of salesmen on here. I also see a lot of great information. I think your frustration stems from the fact that a lot of detail is left out. I don't think 90% is bullshit, I imagine a much smaller percentage is bullshit, and the balance just lacks the detail you want. This is one of my pet peeves with newbies: they want a sure thing. I can't count the number of "is this safe?" or "how can I make a guaranteed $100/month?" threads I see.

    Someone could provide a step-by-step method to how they made $1k/month and you might not experience anywhere near the same success. That's because:
    • Niches are different.
    • Your link building or content writing skills are different.
    • You targeted the wrong audience with the wrong offer.
    • You chose the wrong social platform to pimp your content.
    • They used paid ads, and you didn't want to spend any money.
    • There are a ton of variables.
    In addition to that: if you worked in an obscure business, would you willingly hand another competitor your entire playbook? Sure, you might be willing to mentor someone new to the game, but you certainly wouldn't hand them all of the secrets you spent years learning. I say "competitors" because while we're all friendly on here, we're all competing for spot #1 on Google. You know there has to be some keyword overlap between members on here.

    Not to mention the fact how many people will half-ass their attempt at your method, then rip on your method for "sucking." An intelligent saying springs to mind when I see this situation occur:
    Getting to your last point:
    I will point out the irony that you rip on people for "showing their salary to 'hype' you", but then request I show my income. Not being a dick here, just wanted to point out that you're requesting the distraction that people use to distract you.

    Considering this is the second request I've had in this thread, and I imagine it may become a recurring theme, I'll oblige (tagging @shephard since I s/he also requested this info). I won't show my entire income because it would take way more screenshots than I care to take the time to make and censor (and quite honestly, it's no ones business but my own). I get paid into a lot of accounts and from a lot of different sources. This is from one of my PayPal accounts.

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    Now, stop being distracted and get to work. I hope I've helped in some way.
     
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  14. JaxPozzy

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    I love this picture!
     
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    This guy.. Porn is the main reason?? LMAO
     
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    Anyone wanting to earn should have daily routine and use timer for each task. Fast money can happen, but is very hard. Hard work pays off though and methods take weeks to show results.
     
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    Yeah, I can completely relate to this and unfortunately will have to disagree with my buddy @ SEO this time.

    You need to first understand how things work before you take any action.

    When I started, I lost one and a half years (almost 2) because I was just doing without really knowing how things worked at all. Lots of failures, frustrations, questioning if this was really something real (pun), etc. Until one day I just stopped and asked myself why I was failing and failing while other people where so successful. What do they have tat I don't? I asked myself. Knowledge: they know how things work and how it's done.

    That's when I decided to stop doing and start learning DEEPLY what was needed to build a product from scratch. Turns out, it was not a walk in the park as I have thought when I started my project. There was A SHITTON of stiff to learn. I spent the next two and a half years learning without taking action.

    Guess what happened? I no longer fail at what I used to. I now achieve. All my past fears are no longer a concern. I'm quite an expert at my field.

    But yeah, it is also dangerous because once you start learning you want to learn more and more and you may find yourself in a loophole, though, so you need to be very careful to know when to stop.

    I'm a software developer so this may not apply the same to, say, an SEo guy.
     
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  19. SEO

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    No offense taken :). So long as you take action, that's where the success is. I had a similar situation as you, I was doing a lot with little success and dug in a bit deeper to learn why. I continued working while learning.

    I don't truly care how anyone chooses to do things so long as they take action eventually. Like you said, it's dangerous because you don't want to just "learn" indefinitely. If a person chooses to not take action, or half-heartedly take action or learn indefinitely, that's fine. But don't come on here blaming people and pointing fingers. We are all responsible for our own actions.

    On a side-note, didn't realize you were a developer. Nice! I've dabbled in PHP and I'm slowly learning Python. I know HTML, CSS and Javacript pretty well. I have Ubot to help me prototype projects quickly and possibly turn out some products in the future. If you ever open a marketplace thread, shoot me a PM, I'd be happy to take a look :).
     
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  20. IPlease

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    I agree that most want to make a quick buck and think that they can easily make it online. But it does take some effort and time.