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Email Submits - Do it yourself !

Discussion in 'CPA' started by Angelus_1984, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    Hi everybody,

    since this is so obvious I am sure there might already be a post about it. So obviously I did not come up with this "method".

    Nevertheless I think it is great for noobs (like myself) to be reminded how easy things can be if you just take action NOW!

    The idea is to fill in email submits in lots of different cpa networks and hide your tracks by using proxies and fake traffic to lower the CR.

    Now step by step:

    1. Get accepted to at least 20 cpa networks. In the CPA section of the forum you can find a list of lots of cpa networks as well as posts on how to get accepted.

    2. In each network pick 2 email submit offers. Make a list (wordpad/ excel spreadsheet/whatever) of the affiliate URLs and then you need to blank the referer. You can either do a DMR or, and this is what I prefer, use referer.us/hide-http-referer.html
    It will "transform" your affiliate URL to a new URL, which blanks the referer. Copy and paste these URLs to a new list.

    3. You also need fake traffic to lower your CR. Because if you have a CR of 100% you are busted. There are lots of companies, offering junk traffic. I use visitorboost.c0m (not affiliated) because they have proofed to be very reliable and their traffic actually shows up in your stats (unlike the traffic of many other companies).

    4. In order to spread the fake trafffic evenly between the different email submit offers of the different cpa network you need one domain (.info is good enough) and install the URL rotator attached. Simply unzip the files, open the links.txt in wordpad and copy and paste your affiliate URLs with the blanked referer. Save it and upload both files (links.txt and index.php). Use your domain as the target URL of your fake traffic.

    5. Last but not least you need different proxies. You can find a lot of free ones just search the forum. Use one proxy go to offer1/network1 fill in your email address (you can buy 1000 email addresses for next to nothing here in the forum). Then go to offer1/network2... rinse and repeat. Just make sure you do not fill in offer1 and 2 of the same network at the same time. Make it random.

    6. After you have done every offer of the 20 networks, delete your cookies use a new proxy and rinse and repeat.

    So if you make around 50 bucks per month per network (remember you should be accepted in 20 networks by now) you will make $ 1000/ month. And best of all you shouldn't need to spend more than 1 hour per day.

    Some side notes:
    Don't overdo it! You could use only one offer per network but I like to be on the safe side. If you use 2 offers and make 50 bucks, that means each advertisers only pays you 25. And this is no amount they care about.

    I also suggest to use different offers each month. There are plenty of email submit offers. So this shouldn't be a problem.


    If you have any questions feel free to ask. And now open a new window and get started!!!!! Good luck!
     

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  2. arbydee2

    arbydee2 Regular Member

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    Pretty nice method.

    But most networks shave a lot of leads due to this exact same reason. Fraudulent leads.
     
  3. zen19

    zen19 Elite Member

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    OP - I appreciate that you may have taken quite a lot of time and effort to write this detailed post.

    However.

    Its a really bad idea that will see you not get paid, have your accounts banned, and is nothing more that fraud. Its not that difficult to have real people fill out the offers becuase they are interested in whats being offered.

    I strongly suggest that people dont follow this method.
     
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  4. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    Hmmm... I admit I have used this method only for a few months but so far I have been paid except for 2 networks.

    Problem with paying others to do that stuff is that
    a.) the profit is smaller and
    b.) I actually had bad experiences with those network, where you can offer a few cents for people filling your email submits. When I wanted a few hundred submits I got only a few people to do it (even at .20 per email submit)

    So if you have any recommendations I will gladly try them.

    And referring to fraudalant leads... this is still a blackhat forum... and I have read lots of posts about tricking people in to filling in email submits, whereby there is no value provided to the advertiser.

    I guess everybody has to find his or her own point of crossing the line.
     
  5. Haspel

    Haspel Power Member

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    Still there is a huge difference between tricking people to fill an email submit and filling them yourself. In the first case the advertiser actually gets a real person on his list that he can email for as long as he wants to till he makes his money back while when you are doing the email submits the only thing he gets is an unattended email address.....
     
  6. zen19

    zen19 Elite Member

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    When I say have real people fill out your offers - I dont mean paying them to do so - thats also gonna run you into problems, as soon as you get caught - and you will get caught after a while.

    Technically this is a BH *SEO* forum, its not a BH fraud forum.

    The BHSEO method of doing this for the lazy person would be

    • Autogenerate and populate a site with content relevant to a niche
    • Generate lots and lots of backlinks to get good search placement
    • Build the next 100 sites
    Of course thats incredibly simplified, and by no means the only way to do it.

    Check out the money making subforum for quick ideas and methods.
     
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  7. dnreg

    dnreg Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I'd rather you people do NOT defraud the cpa companies, as that's what is leading to fewer and fewer email/zip submits being found on affliate networks these days, compared to how it used to be. It's so easy to do it legitimately -- just do that.
     
  8. brookshire

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    I agree, doing this will only hurt you in the long run. I know this is BHW, but.....

    BlackHat doesn't mean illegal..
     
  9. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    I totally agree with you that blackhat does not mean illegal.

    However we day by day violate the TOS of networks. Many of the threads here deal with really illegal issues such as violating copyrights, tricking people into spending money on supposedly free offers and so on...

    However I won't defend myself here or argue any further about definitons and point of view. No hating or being pissed from my side.

    Let's just agree to disagree.

    But I agree that this forum is awesome and that there are lots of great threads about money making. So good luck to everybody.
     
  10. brookshire

    brookshire Junior Member

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    Yep, I can certainly agree that this forum is downright awesome. Lots and lots of money making potential.
     
  11. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    @OP, so your method is to steal from the networks that is paying a lot of us?

    I'm amazed that people not only think this is fine but advertise it as a way of making a living.
     
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    VirtualN3t Newbie

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    If you can't honestly, legitimately monetize a simple zip/email submit, you need to seriously reconsider your career path.
     
  13. spsfinest

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    OP getting people to fill out CPA offers for e-mail submits or zip submits isn't that hard especially if your traffic to those offers is targeted.
     
  14. edvoltage1

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    lol the leads dont even have to be targeted. Nice method but if you cant get real leads to email submits you...failllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
     
  15. zaedell

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    This is a bad idea and personally I disagree with this "method". It hurts the CPA companies and advertisers in the long run. There are more effective ways of generating leads without defrauding CPA companies.

    Please don't do this.
     
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    I won't repeat anything that's already been said here because it's pretty obvious that anyone doing this knows it's fraud.

    I will add this: Sure, you might make a couple of bucks here and there doing something like this until you get caught and blacklisted from every network in existence. But, you're not really learning anything. You're not building a real business, and you're certainly not going to advance yourself in this business or in life by stealing commissions at $1.25 a pop.

    I think it's natural for people who are new to internet marketing to gravitate toward the path of least resistance. After all, this isn't easy to do. Not these days. And I think it's that common misconception that leads people to seek that sort of "instant gratification".

    Think about what your ultimate goals are, and then ask yourself if you really believe something like this is going to help you to reach them. If this is the extent of your aspirations, you might as well go back to your day job.
     
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    ebikerz Regular Member Premium Member

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    Plus I think it's against the forum rules to even discuss it.
    Where is that ban hammer Zen?
     
  18. g111k

    g111k Regular Member

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    Honestly... with the time and effort it took you to write that fraudulent method you could have promoted any offer a legitimate way, make more money in the long run, and actually learn something useful.
     
  19. Angelus_1984

    Angelus_1984 Registered Member

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    I agree that this is not a business and the only point was making some fast money to reinvest in bigger projects not to make a living of it.

    I still disagree with the whole steeling thing because it is my opinion that tricking people into filling an email submit if it is not explecitely an incentivised offer does not provide value at all. Sure the advertiser gets an email (if it is a real one) but come on... considering the low potenital of these prospects I don't thing the advertiser gets even close to break even if he might sell one guy while paying for 50 leads or so.

    So if this post really is against the forum rules i do apologise but I'd appreciate to just delete this post, if it is the most dangerous post this forum has ever experienced, instead of threating with "the ban hammer" :D
     
  20. jdem02

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    Well.. black hat or whatever... its people like you who are lazy... Yea use BH techniques but that is just lazy as shit... dont get me wrong yea auto blog is lazy but atleast its legit. What your doing will ruin it for everyone and then what? You won't be filling out them offers no more will ya.. I make 50-90 a day EASY... If I can do it you can and its all legit what I do.. tard cart