Email Submits - Do it yourself !

Look...

If you can't perform medical surgery, you can't be a doctor...

If you can't paint a house, you shouldn't be a painter...

So why the hell are you in this industry if you can't get real leads?

It's people like you that mess it all up.

No, you're not going to mix your shitty leads with real leads, you're going to pull a flat out fraud operation...

Get a job at McDonalds.

People like you are pissing the advertisers off and putting less money in MY pocket.

Fuck off. (i want to feel sorry for you, but then again you haven't read the rules)
 
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I'd rather you people do NOT defraud the cpa companies, as that's what is leading to fewer and fewer email/zip submits being found on affliate networks these days, compared to how it used to be. It's so easy to do it legitimately -- just do that.
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Yep, we members on this board effect more things then we think we do! You may not think so, until you get to see the effects of peoples actions trickle down and effect how you are promoting offers when CPA's "all of a sudden" change the rules on you!

I won't repeat anything that's already been said here because it's pretty obvious that anyone doing this knows it's fraud.

I will add this: Sure, you might make a couple of bucks here and there doing something like this until you get caught and blacklisted from every network in existence. But, you're not really learning anything. You're not building a real business, and you're certainly not going to advance yourself in this business or in life by stealing commissions at $1.25 a pop.

I think it's natural for people who are new to internet marketing to gravitate toward the path of least resistance. After all, this isn't easy to do. Not these days. And I think it's that common misconception that leads people to seek that sort of "instant gratification".

Think about what your ultimate goals are, and then ask yourself if you really believe something like this is going to help you to reach them. If this is the extent of your aspirations, you might as well go back to your day job.
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Beautiful!

Sure the advertiser gets an email (if it is a real one) but come on... considering the low potenital of these prospects I don't thing the advertiser gets even close to break even if he might sell one guy while paying for 50 leads or so.
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Really? I've been doing this exact thing you are preaching against for about a year now and my leads for DAMN SURE convert for my advertisers! I've also had about three bumps in offer payouts. BTW, my leads were ALL generated using BH methods! Go figure eh?

This lets me know that you have a LONG way to go in the ART of marketing! Its not what you do that gets you the results you and people like you are seeking, its HOW you do it!

Just understand the risks you are taking when you implement stuff like this. This is the main reason why most CPA applications have gotton tougher and alot of really lucrative offers have went underground. Know what you are getting yourself into!
 
Fkin tard carts man... This shit pisses me off.. Thats fine if you want to go BH but do it legally and dont fuck it up.. All my leads are legit and I do little zip/emails ... I MAKE almost $100 a day off this... Yea... its possible
 
Angelus just shares his method. People were blessed to have his own capability to think if its right or wrong. If you think its not right, then leave it. I was a bit happy for the first two replies that doesn't flame the OP for sharing his method. But as I scroll down, I see people arguing with each other trying to be the more blackhat professional.

@Angelus_1984: Nice method - Nice guts. Its a nice thing you've been paid by this already. Honestly I don't have the guts to type email addresses myself. So goodluck on your campaigns. :cow_yello

PS: People screaming "yeah its easy as pie to make $100 with legit leads" but they didn't give a single shit of advice.
 
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I learned my lesson and I will never do this thing again... no and never...

If you want to get your account banned or earnings frozen, do it...
 
LeadsProvider said:
Angelus just shares his method. People were blessed to have his own capability to think if its right or wrong. If you think its not right, then leave it. I was a bit happy for the first two replies that doesn't flame the OP for sharing his method. But as I scroll down, I see people arguing with each other trying to be the more blackhat professional.

@Angelus_1984: Nice method - Nice guts. Its a nice thing you've been paid by this already. Honestly I don't have the guts to type email addresses myself. So goodluck on your campaigns. :cow_yello

PS: People screaming "yeah its easy as pie to make $100 with legit leads" but they didn't give a single shit of advice.
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The methods for making good money with legit leads and sales are already available all over the web.
 
The advertisers will see that these leads arent converting and you'll get shit on by the networks.
 
Actually talking about fraudulent, CPA companies themselves are fraudulent. They automatically rebill their customers from most of their offers. Although there's TOS statement but it's usually in small text and in footer. If everybody reads the TOS, of course nobody would want to sign up with those advertiser offers, isnt it? :P
 
wokaka said:
Actually talking about fraudulent, CPA companies themselves are fraudulent. They automatically rebill their customers from most of their offers. Although there's TOS statement but it's usually in small text and in footer. If everybody reads the TOS, of course nobody would want to sign up with those advertiser offers, isnt it? :P
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CPA companies do not rebill anything. The advertisers do.
 
Well OP I think it's has been discussed many times that filling your own survey or cpa offer is not blackhat.. It's fraud. So , I appreciate your effort for writing the whole stuff n so on. But someday it will get you in trouble nothing else. :) ..
 
all I can say is do not do it! If CPA was that easy, most of us would be living in mansions, and the advertisers wouldn't be too happy with the lack of quality leads :crying:
 
Please delete this shit. I'm fine with every blackhat method out there, but this is straight-up fraud.
 
zaedell said:
CPA companies do not rebill anything. The advertisers do.
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Analogy: Arms dealers don't kill innocent people. The people they sell their weapons to do.

Does that make it right? Is it getting any clearer now how many of you are in full-blown denial? Its as if you've even fooled yourselves!


howard_hughes said:
This is pure fraud, I doubt you will ever see any money that you made.

And yeah, one more thing, if you were an advertiser and someone did this to you... would you like it?
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How would you like it if you signed up to get a free credit score and then got billed 7 days later for 40 bucks for your "free" score and the "cancelation" number they said to call to cancel your subscription to a grocery coupon club you never signed up for, which you only found by reading through the TOS 4 times, that is once you found the TOS of course, is "currently assisting other customers" indefinitely?


Alright, ENOUGH. I'm stick and tired of almost everyone on this thread claiming to be holier than thou. Give me a break! 3 months ago all of you were pumping your cyber penis about how you conned a bunch of unemployed on Craigslist. Stop kidding yourselves! At least the OP admits it!

A hypocrite is twice as bad as someone who admits it.
 
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Craigslist method is different. Yes you fool someone on craigslist that they can get a free something by visiting a link But at least it has some chances of converting for the advertiser in future.

But DIY Email Submits? Will that ever convert? NO.

THATS WHY ITS JUST PLAIN FRAUD.

If you're so desperate to make money by fraud, why not go out and steal someones wallet? What you are supporting, Its almost the same thing!
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Did I say I was supporting the OP's method? No, I didn't.

What I said was that there are WAY too many hypocrites on this forum. At least the OP admits it, while everyone else attempts to act holier than thou.

I'm here for the seo party. That's the only reason I even open my mouth about this. I'm not one to be a hypocrite.
 
ouch, people are harsh! But yeah, I agree... FRAUD sucks and just makes the adverts pull their offers.. which sucks ass, since 90% of my income is from those offers :P
 
what's the difference between this and making people to fill in a survey to get through a CPA gateway?
 
dnreg said:
I'd rather you people do NOT defraud the cpa companies, as that's what is leading to fewer and fewer email/zip submits being found on affliate networks these days, compared to how it used to be. It's so easy to do it legitimately -- just do that.
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Yeah, it's pure fraud but you are not sharing your legit method with noobs like myself. So, why won't we apply this so called fraud.
 
easier and safer to do it right, nothing to lose that way
 
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