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Easy £5000 a month online/offline hybrid method

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by CMS2009, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. CMS2009

    CMS2009 BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Okay, this is my first posr on here in a long time. I kept this method to myself and worked away at it for the last five months, making my first 5k month in september. As I live in a fairly specific geographic region of the UK, sharing isn't gonna effect my income one bit. I'll outline the method step by step and you are welcome to give it a go wherever you are. This is a mediium term project which brings some quick cash, but eventually, a long term recurring income without doing a tap!

    It is centered in and around the gambling niche, and this is undoubtedly where the big money is, especially in these deprived times! I'll keep it fairly general regarding the aff programs and sites I use, but will answer any polite PM's.

    The online bit first!

    1. Get yourself signed up to some gambling affiliates. Bingo and casino work best, sports betting not so much. Ones with good sign up offers, and more importantly good payouts for low deposits. One bingo site will pay out £60 for a £10 deposit.

    2. As i have limited technical ability (very limited) I didn't bother making a website. I simply got hosting from HG, think its the baby plan, with unlimited subdomains. Get a cheap dot com domain, generic gambling related. Nothing too specific as you will use specifics in the subdomain. Whichever host you use, make sure you get cpanel for simple redirects. Bandwith wont be an issue, get the lowest you can.

    3. I started with one bingo site and two casino's to promote. Get your aff link redirected thru your subdomain like such http://www.playbingofree.xxxxx.com ===>afflink ===> bingo site and similar for your casinos.

    4. Bingo site is straightforward CPA, casinos give you the option of CPA and revenue share. CPA will give immediate cash, revenue share, when targetted properly will give you a good recurring income for a long long time after you've stopped promoting (gamblers are loyal, and lose reguarly)

    Pick one CPA casino to keep short term funds flowing, and two RevShare to set you up for years to come.

    5. This is the online bit basically done. If you can send some gambling related traffic to your subdomain links then so be it. However, those that already reguarly gamble online have developed an immunity the the thousands of online offers that are out there, don't convert easily, and often only stay till they release whatever bonus is on offer. We will target those to don't gamble online, don't know how easy it is, and in the case of bingo sites - bored housewives with nowt to do.

    THE OFFLINE BIT

    1. As I did at first, design yourself a nice A5 flyer advertsing your subdomain. Keep the colours and design simliar to the landing site for added authenticity. Nowadays I head over to fiver and some people, (who obvioulsy don't know their own value) will design a double sided full colour extremely professional flyer for $5 and they are much better than I could ever do.

    2. Printing. I can get 5000 double sided colour leaflets printed for £59. Thats cheap I reckon. And mega cheap when you consider you are well in profit already with just two conversions. Start with just 5000 and use the money you make to expand. The first one I done was bingo, and 5000 delivered leaflets resulted in 18 signups. That was a total of £1080, and all in under a week. Good result that in my book.

    3. Delivery. My first lot I did half myself over the space of a week, door to door and had the other half done by my girlfriends sister, who I payed £20. Not bad, but as time went on I found better methods such as bribing the next person who brought a flyer to my door to do some extra, paying my paper lad, pinning them up in area's with big footfall, and chipshops etc.

    4. As I knew it would, income fell off strongly after week one, and I only made another £240 the next week, and nowt the week after. (Just reminds me - I now only drop leaflets at the start at the month, when most folk have just been paid!) I could have happily taken my £1000 and left it at that, but decided to plug on, do different areas, and different compaigns.

    5. Casino advertising. Less conversions, but bigger payouts. Some casino's pay up to £150 CPA, or 40% rev share. Again go for CPA first to get some funds in, then rev share for long term returns. Get your local arcade boy to give your flyers to everyone that comes in (obviously dont let the arcade owner know).

    6. Targetting. I target my bingo drops solely in poorer areas. Here you will find housewives and the unemployed with nothing to do all day. The promise of day time bingo with a free £20 all for £10 really does get them excited. For casino's target these areas too, but add in more affluent areas and try and catch a few secret gamblers. If you have friends who you know gamble, do their door too. One casino I use gives a player report, and a casual acquaintance of mine has dropped over £500 three months in row as one of my referals, £200 of that goes straight to me, and he is none the wiser lol

    Don't forget RevShare. You wont see a return right away (you will know when someone signs up) but I have ten hardcore casino players as referalls that between them generate over £2500 a month for me. The good thing about rev share, if they win, its the casinos loss, not yours. Iv'e had someone win £8000, so I got no payout that month, but like all gamblers they lost about £6000 of it back the next month, meaning I got a great return!

    Any questions feel free to ask. Hope someone has the courage to give it a go, I thought of this idea a year ago and only got down to it 6 months back! I haven'y got near to exhausting my local town yet, but will happily travel the 20 miles to the next one once I have!

    Regards

    CMS2009.....can I change that to 2010?
     
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  2. DRAMA

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    HEy this is really awesome, great idea! I will be giving it a shot.

    Let me just get this straight - you go door to door putting the card in their letter box? And you did that for 5000 houses? (for the first week)
     
  3. CMS2009

    CMS2009 BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    Yip, thats the principle. I only ever done about half my first lot, when I didn't want to be paying out in case it didn't work. Then I found other methods of delivery...basically getting people who are doing the same thing to deliver mine too, for a wee bonus on top of their own
     
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  4. CMS2009

    CMS2009 BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    you can use any!

    just a few rules to stick with :

    1. make sure you get paid out without a huge deposit being needed

    a tenner for bingo and £20 - £25 for casino is good.

    2. make sure there's no mad wagering requirements from the casino (some do - most dont)

    nothing worse than you doing a lot of work, getting hundreds of casino sign ups for them and them not paying you cos the initial deposit wasnt over £50

    3. as came up in a PM, this probably shouldnt be on BHW as it isnt actually BH. Ive been asked twice where my signups were coming from and both time it was fine. I even emailed off one of my flyers. No issues
     
  5. dr3ad

    dr3ad Newbie

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    I have a similar idea to this but it involves pointing directly to the gambling site, thus removing the amateur turn off of the sub domain/unofficial domain. The player enters a referral code after the official download from the main page rather than visiting a secondary website & clicking the affiliate link.

    SO.. I think it's worth weighing up whether to do this via your own domain/subdomain/website or simply a referral code, do you see what I mean? It seems there'll be more turnover if the flyers are pointing to an official, recognized brand.
     
  6. outsidethesquare

    outsidethesquare Regular Member

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    How long does it take you to distribute 1000 fliers door to door? Any chance you can share how you are having them delivered now without doing it yourself? I don't quite get that..
     
  7. dr3ad

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    Distributing 1000 flyers should take average person about 6-8 hours. OPs gf's sister did half of 5,000 for £20 lol she really got taken for a mug ! What is that 4 days work for £20?

    Outsourcing flyer delivery not a big deal though.. plenty of people are willing to do it. Pay them by the hour or by amount of leaflets. Make sure it's somebody you can trust though because some may just throw them away.
     
  8. anti_dote

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    This sounds to be a really nice method plus you gave it a nice twist with those cards although i hate to say this i can not try the offline method as i would love to try it just because gambling is prohibited in my country but i will try the online version and thanks for the contribution.
     
  9. CMS2009

    CMS2009 BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    1 - bet+fair are a great online gambing site that it very very easy to promote. However they operate a referral code only system, and the truth is most people just don't bother typing in the code. Maybe if you could negotiate some exclusive deal with a casino, but a bit too much work for me. Also, most casno sites do not have this referral code system, simply a cookie tracking aff code.

    Also, my domain eludes to a special deal if you know what i mean. I sometime then put the brand name directly in the subdomain, so they know its a good brand

    eg. (not one ive used or my own domain ) http://www.willhill.bonusoffer.com

    see?

    secondly. I get flyers in my door for local supermarkets, restaurants, etc all the time. I grabbed one of their delivery lads and bunged him a few quid.

    As ive said ive only delivered my own fliers once, and delivered about 2500 over the space of about 4 nights. Admittedly too much time for me, hence getting someone else to do it
     
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  10. CMS2009

    CMS2009 BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    of course she got taken for a mug lol! to be fair shes only 14 so £20 and a burger chips and tin of coke was a good result for her lol
     
  11. WildJoe86

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    Delivering to 5000 houses lmfao, either you are retarded or you just copy/pasted and made some shit up.
     
  12. astor11

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    are you trying to build a list?
     
  13. CMS2009

    CMS2009 BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    all very welcome to your own opinions folks, get stuck in
     
  14. WhoYoDaddy

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    Online gambling is not allowed in the US so if you are thinking of using this method in the States you need to find casinos that can accept US visitors. Most online casinos cannot be funded from US based banks, credit / debit cards so make sure you find a few legit casinos that have loopholes and accept US funding thru other jurisdictions.

    Here is a better twist for all of you:

    Instead of delivering flyers door to door you can just get others to distribute them in front of OTB (Off Track Betting in US) locations or similar. OTB is a place where people can legally bet on horses and it has active gamblers who are betting locally instead of being at the actual horse track . Instead of blindly targeting house wifes you directly deliver your flyer to active gamblers. Offer a bonus to someone who just walked out of losing $50 and he might signup later online to check out his FREE MONEY OFFER.
     
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  15. LeBJon

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    something very similar to this was posted an i read it before wish i could remember.. but still thanks for the share..
     
  16. kingn0thing

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    Great idea! I might have to try this out.

    -kingn0thing
     
  17. bayshorekid

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    "Online gambling is not allowed in the US so if you are thinking of using this method in the States you need to find casinos that can accept US visitors. Most online casinos cannot be funded from US based banks, credit / debit cards so make sure you find a few legit casinos that have loopholes and accept US funding thru other jurisdictions."

    Uhhh Full Tilt Poker is legal in The USA...
     
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  18. CMS2009

    CMS2009 BANNED BANNED Premium Member

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    re off site betting - yeah I to be fair I shoujld have mentioned that outside the bingo hall in my local town is great,

    theres a pile of granny types who are all new to the internet scene that arent now restricted to playing bingo two nights a week like they do in my local town, made a few quid off that,

    so yeah, very valied point. I'd imagine racecources would be good too but im not handy to any of them.

    Never had the balls to try outside betting shops!
     
  19. Spdbmp

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    It's actually considered illegal to be a payment processor for online gambling in the US. That's why many online casino brands have pulled out of the US, (not worth the hassle), but there are still plenty who accept US players - (offshore processors) , in fact; there are many who want Only US Players...and pay very well for them. :)

    I would be careful with rev share in the US though, as it could be construed as aiding and abetting.

    Great method CMS2009, very scalable without a huge cost increase.
     
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  20. catwithhat

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    I would like to know these affiliate sites you use, but PM is not allowed for me at the moment. Im from Estonia so quite far away from UK :).
    Too bad! At least I have two posts now :D