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Earning with arbitrage? anyone?

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click' started by Sam K, Mar 20, 2019.

  1. jeff1985

    jeff1985 Regular Member

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    Agreed! the traffic sources determined if u sink or swim...people tell newbies about Facebook and ig because it’s less fraud prone. Outbrain and Taboola and few select sources are more affordable

    Cpm arbitrage is the easiest to do then adsenseband anything click oriented
     
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    That would be great if you could list the reliable quality Traffic Sources as well as the Publisher networks you are monetizing the traffic.
     
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    I heard that adsense started to crack on people using native ads for arbitrage
     
  4. persiaseo

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    So what is the best combo (traffic source + monetizing network) to go ATM?
     
  5. jeff1985

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    Right I personally would recommended people stop doing arbitrage for adsense altogether and go cpm arbitrage. However the biggest known issues is bot makers are making bots that specifically manipulate native ads which then makes it more dangerous without an antibot tracker installed to prevent fraudulent clicks. Arbitrage is totally fine and legal but when bot clicks on the native ads and you have no way of filtering bot traffic u can be in a world of trouble unless the native company has expert bot fraud protection.
     
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    Sorry i dont understand that "cpm arbitrage" part
    isnt the same thing? adsense pay per click and for CPM too
     
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    I used to arb Overture for years many moons ago which was super lucrative, I recently tried FB ads again which is actually supremely difficult, gallery style posts tend to get a landing page slap whereas with single posts you are hoping to find engaging image with the right targeting and content. On this I find mixed results. My best with layered targets and a lookalike audience. Run this then identify the working breakdown... but it is a lot of work and testing for inconsistent results, btw I am just Adsense/native combo on my landers.

    I follow up with email and messenger blasts but its very hard to make revenue scale past say $100 a day. When I stop ads I use my organic assets like my FB groups but these also have a revenue limit thats hard to push past.

    Almost certainly I am not using the best combo of monetisation and traffic source, going native is bot central and when I tried that ( Taboola ) I had issues with arb landers. I'd say the biggest art of all is actually finding that winning combo of traffic source and monetisation that allows you to test and eventually make money without the risk of big slaps. I haven't tried cpm networks or any other type as yet, those I looked at have long drawn out approvals and long payment windows, neither of which is arb friendly.
     
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    this thread give me fair knowledge about arbitrage. I never tried it so far.
     
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    Cpm arbitrage is totally different because u making money off of the paid traffic based on views not clicks...

    With Adsense Arbitrage u hoping for double click from the user so u can make your money back ... that works with adsense codes that are links that trick the reader thinking it’s a part of the site only but click arbitrage is different then cpm arbitrage
     
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    Buying traffic is tricky... u literally have to used fraud protection tools when u buy native because I know for fact certain native companies can be easily manipulated.

    I been buying traffic for years and sadly can truly
    Say I only found 3 sources that actually had real
    Good traffic in 10 years! A lot of companies are knowingly or unknowingly using bot traffic. If a company doesn’t invest in anti fraud protections don’t used them or invest in fraud protection that can track fraudulent clicks so that u only receive clean traffic.


    I asked the traffic sources tons of question about anti fraud protection if they don’t have or give a legitimate answer then no longer get my business period

    I strongly recommend cpm arbitrage over cpc/native arbitrage because u are not relying on clicks more relying on views...
     
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    Got it now
    thanks man
     
  12. jeff1985

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    No problem bruh we all here to help!
     
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    What traffic sources + monetizing networks do you recommend for CPM Arb to get started? What are their minimum requirements? Any case studies doing CPM arb with their corresponding Source/Network?
     
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    All comments are about it's not easy for beginners in 2019 . i read this phrase every year wtf
     
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    hi,
    you can optimize your ads and sell your own stuff on top of that, it helps to get more than that. most of people doing Google Adsense
     
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    Could anyone recommend a good CPM earning network for beginners to try out?
     
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    Which cpm network you using?
     
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    I’m using several but I’m only in these top tier companies because my similar web ranking is over 1.5 million us total impressions... good ad companies have requirements to get accepted mostly traffic related and for some niche specific... a website with 500,000 us tier one traffic is treated differently then a site with 50,000 us impressions. But any company offering google adx as apart of the offering is a good start
     
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    The network depends on the traffic numbers and what geo and what niche your site is! All sites are not treated equal
     
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    i never try traffic arbitrage before, but want to do something now:)