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Domain privacy protect domains from Google ban?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by mancunian, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. mancunian

    mancunian Newbie

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    I use domain privacy services on some of my .com domains for sites with doorway pages.

    Now if Google bans one site does the privacy service (eg. contactprivacy) prevent Google from seeing the domain owner and hence stop them finding all my other spam sites and banning them? I used shared hosting so I guess my IP is shared by many non spam sites

    I know Google is a domain registrar (even though they dont sell domains) so can they see true ownership of the domain and hence discover all of the other domains I own?
     
  2. corbin2

    corbin2 Registered Member

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    Google is an domain registrar as well, so they can access the data of the domain owner if they want, no matter if you use domain privacy or not.

    hxxp://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/domain.html

    But I don't think Google will find all of your sites, unless you leave footsteps, like using the same theme on all of your pages and so on. You should also avoid using webmaster tools and analytics.
     
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  3. Whitefox

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    Big G can basically do whatever he wants. In the Internet he's God
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    Unless you have specific references showing otherwise, I don't think this is actually true. Domain privacy is usually offered by private third party services that register the domains in their name for a fee. This information can only be revealed in the event a subpoena is served on these companies, as it states in their terms of service. I don't see how google could possibly have access to this information without a subpoena.
     
  5. mancunian

    mancunian Newbie

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    Yes I just checked one of my domains and it says:

    Registrant:
    Contactprivacy.com
    96 Mowat Ave
    Toronto, ON M6K 3M1
    CA

    So I think I am safe??

    It is very important to me because I have hundreds of websites and it is likely that one will get banned as I am using Xrumer and somebody may get upset and report me for a spam site and I dont want to risk all my sites.

    If there are domain experts out there I would be grateful (I dont understand ICAN, registrars etc) but I once lost a load of cloaked sites on .co.uk s but all my .coms survived a ban which indicates some sort of whois look up had taken place on all the .co.uks but not .coms.
     
  6. richcamp

    richcamp Regular Member

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    I had domain privacy on, when the spam complains hit, it didn't help me a bit. Got the domain suspended. After many negotiation I got it unsuspend but the privacy was taken off by registrar and I can't put it back on.
     
  7. mancunian

    mancunian Newbie

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    Richcamp,

    thanks for the reply but I think you are on about something else I am am worried about Google search engine bans and Googles ability to find out all the domains I own even if registered with a privacy service
     
  8. goodtimes

    goodtimes Power Member

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    I am sure they can find out if they want to. I wouldn't really worry about being banned. Too many people use the privacy services for then to do that.
     
  9. nodoubtgq79

    nodoubtgq79 Junior Member

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    Google CANNOT see your domain if you're private

    ONLY the registrar that holds your account can view it

    It's controlled by ICANN

    Code:
    http://www.cshel.com/seo-sem/domains/2006/11/google-cannot-see-past-private-registrations/
     
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  10. OldSchooler

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    Domain Registers control their own whois databases. Let?s say you do a whois lookup on BlackHatDomains.com. First the request hits Internic, where the Domain Register info is pulled and the name server settings. Then it hits the Domain Register on record, requesting the meat of the whois data (owner/admin/tech/etc).
    The key point here - if your domain is say with Moniker or Galcomm, and you're using their privacy feature Google can't see the account holder?s info. If we?re talking about .com/.net/.name TLDs Internic, VeriSign keep NO whois data. The individual Registers are responsibility for maintaining this. This data is backed up (mandatory), majority use the ICANN recommended company Iron Mountain.
    When Google runs a whois query they see what everyone else sees. Now if your domain is actually registered with Google's Domain Register, of course they know who the account holder is, they control the domain/whois record. But I doubt anyone reading this has registered a domain under them.
    Several services now harvest and retain whois history. So when you first register a domain you want to make damn sure you activate whois privacy at the same time. If you wait a day you have a footprint with those history retention companies.
    Roughly 1/2 the Registers use a third party service to provide "whois privacy" the others handle it themselves.
    Hope this helps you guys out.
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  11. mancunian

    mancunian Newbie

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    Excellent repiles, very knowledgeable thank you!