daymrogersmith
Junior Member
- Feb 26, 2008
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Since some of you seem to think I don't know what I'm talking about, let me give you some inconsistencies in his stories.
First of all, I've already spent about $500 this week testing other j/v's for this offer. So, don't talk to me about "starting low". I asked everybody for the same info. If everybody else is willing to give up the same info, why can't he?
Let me tell you about the people that I thought were legit and the tests weren't profitable but, I took the chance based on what they told me.
The two other people both showed me screenshots of their stats and they all added up correctly as it's supposed to in my several years of internet marketing. One of them had a months worth of stats, I put every single number into excel manually from the screenshot for my own records and to do the projection numbers. Nothing "suspicious" ever crossed my mind. It's simple mathematics and the Excel formulas showed me what I needed to see in order to continue with the investment in their testing.
One of them did tell me that they were making $500 a day but, in there stats they made half of that for only two days in a row, with an overall less than a week worth of stats. They told me their network had some issue or something so he couldn't show me the complete stats. Fine, I took the risk anyway.
Now, with Trueblood.
The first time he sends me a message asking me about the offer etc.. I ignore it, the next PM I get he's talking about making $2500 a day or something, so naturally I'm all, "what's up? let's do this, etc.." we speak on MSN, I ask him for his stats. He says he's on a MAC there's no "prtscrn" button. Ok, I let it go, since he says he's an AM at this particular network , I give him the benefit of the doubt. Even though there's software out there that will do screenshots for you, plus in the screenshot I posted you see in this thread it was from an XP system but, you can't see it now since it has been cropped.
Then after the two tests I did with previous j/v's and they weren't profitable I figured I need to figure out the issues and make some changes find another lead source and work on tweaking. I PM trueblood about this, he doesn't care. His response to everything starts with, "dude". "dude just send the leads. my conversion rate is consistent with the worst and best leads." Seriously, are we all stupid here? Ok, I let it go. I tell him I'm working on it.
Keep in mind, all the other j/v's and people i've spoken to are very specific on their stats, showing me screenshots and even landing pages, etc.. some of them are even specific on the targeting of their ads and even time of day/night. I ask TrueBlood about this, asking him to tell me if he has any additional targeting info that I can help him with. He doesn't care, it doesn't matter, whatever it is, it will convert. Seriously? It's that easy to make money is it? At first when I ask if he's doing auto-responses, his reply was, "of course". So, this must be one hell of an autoresponse, right?
In tonights last convo he did show me his landing pages which were the same style as the first two j/v's and I even saw a rip (maybe, unless they paid for it) of lilwebs work in there.
So, if you're not ignorant can you also see the holes in his statements? Or am I just delusional? Even after all that, I was going to give him a chance since, if somebody comes up to me and says, "hey, I can make you $2,500 a day" and I know my cost is going to be $125 for that risk. The stupid part of me will want to take that bet. Although after the screenshot, I just had enough of this.
Still, I don't know, maybe I really am wrong. If somebody can give me logical explanations. I'm listening. I can admit when I'm wrong.
First of all, I've already spent about $500 this week testing other j/v's for this offer. So, don't talk to me about "starting low". I asked everybody for the same info. If everybody else is willing to give up the same info, why can't he?
Let me tell you about the people that I thought were legit and the tests weren't profitable but, I took the chance based on what they told me.
The two other people both showed me screenshots of their stats and they all added up correctly as it's supposed to in my several years of internet marketing. One of them had a months worth of stats, I put every single number into excel manually from the screenshot for my own records and to do the projection numbers. Nothing "suspicious" ever crossed my mind. It's simple mathematics and the Excel formulas showed me what I needed to see in order to continue with the investment in their testing.
One of them did tell me that they were making $500 a day but, in there stats they made half of that for only two days in a row, with an overall less than a week worth of stats. They told me their network had some issue or something so he couldn't show me the complete stats. Fine, I took the risk anyway.
Now, with Trueblood.
The first time he sends me a message asking me about the offer etc.. I ignore it, the next PM I get he's talking about making $2500 a day or something, so naturally I'm all, "what's up? let's do this, etc.." we speak on MSN, I ask him for his stats. He says he's on a MAC there's no "prtscrn" button. Ok, I let it go, since he says he's an AM at this particular network , I give him the benefit of the doubt. Even though there's software out there that will do screenshots for you, plus in the screenshot I posted you see in this thread it was from an XP system but, you can't see it now since it has been cropped.
Then after the two tests I did with previous j/v's and they weren't profitable I figured I need to figure out the issues and make some changes find another lead source and work on tweaking. I PM trueblood about this, he doesn't care. His response to everything starts with, "dude". "dude just send the leads. my conversion rate is consistent with the worst and best leads." Seriously, are we all stupid here? Ok, I let it go. I tell him I'm working on it.
Keep in mind, all the other j/v's and people i've spoken to are very specific on their stats, showing me screenshots and even landing pages, etc.. some of them are even specific on the targeting of their ads and even time of day/night. I ask TrueBlood about this, asking him to tell me if he has any additional targeting info that I can help him with. He doesn't care, it doesn't matter, whatever it is, it will convert. Seriously? It's that easy to make money is it? At first when I ask if he's doing auto-responses, his reply was, "of course". So, this must be one hell of an autoresponse, right?
In tonights last convo he did show me his landing pages which were the same style as the first two j/v's and I even saw a rip (maybe, unless they paid for it) of lilwebs work in there.
So, if you're not ignorant can you also see the holes in his statements? Or am I just delusional? Even after all that, I was going to give him a chance since, if somebody comes up to me and says, "hey, I can make you $2,500 a day" and I know my cost is going to be $125 for that risk. The stupid part of me will want to take that bet. Although after the screenshot, I just had enough of this.
Still, I don't know, maybe I really am wrong. If somebody can give me logical explanations. I'm listening. I can admit when I'm wrong.