Does this members stats (screenshot) look legit?

There is a bhw member on here by the name of: "Trueblood" he sent me this screenshot so I will do a test with him and send him 1k CL leads. The leads cost me so I wanted to make sure whoever I test with was already making money and just wanting to scale.

I questioned him on the screenshot he sent me, since if you add up the numbers in all of the columns except for "submits" stats they don't add up to the total. I even put all the data into Excel and made sure they weren't doing averages for the "total" but, the daily stats don't match up to the final "total" in any way.

I would like to do business with him but, the natural skeptical side of me made me think twice. So, I thought I'd ask here for some feedback just to be sure if maybe I was wrong for questioning him. He says it's a tracking error and an issue he's going to bring up with his coder. However, I've been in internet marketing for several years and never seen anything like this, where the daily stats don't match up to to the total. This is simple mathematics, right?

Here's the screenshot:



I told him I would post this screenshot here but, he begged me not to. I don't know why he would do that. I hope my speculations are wrong though, maybe he would give me a 2nd chance to j/v with him if you all think I'm wrong about this. I told him, I'm not trying to accuse him of anything but, my business perspective and previous negative experiences with j/vs tells me to be careful with my investments. That's all. I'm sure from a business perspective this would be understandable.

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I wouldn't post a member's screenshots without their permission - it's just not right (there are reasons for that)

You should ask about him in general first

You should start him with some low lead amounts and see how it goes and you should be able to tell by there

If you can reply to ads as well, you can PM me and I can get you some nice profit done on 1,000 leads a day

A JV is built upon trust - nothing else - remember that

I definitely agree with Black. You should never post someone's screenshot like that. There may be many reasons for him not to want you to post it.

That's probably a private network and you just gave away the domain (I suggest you remove it).

As for the screenshots being real...PM me

blackmagiquellc said:

I wouldn't post a member's screenshots without their permission - it's just not right (there are reasons for that)

You should ask about him in general first

You should start him with some low lead amounts and see how it goes and you should be able to tell by there

If you can reply to ads as well, you can PM me and I can get you some nice profit done on 1,000 leads a day

A JV is built upon trust - nothing else - remember that

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I did ask him but, as I said he states that the numbers don't add up due to his coder and that the stats are only for the first two days. Although even if you add up the stats for the first two days, they don't add up.

I wouldn't have posted the screenshot here if I wasn't skeptical of it. That's why I was looking for feedback. 1k is the minimum that I can do, and 5k is the maximum. Although the 1k leads still cost me money, and that's why I'm trying to confirm if this look legit or not, so that I can make a decision to proceed with this person or not.

If somebody, brought these stats to you in order for you to invest in them, would you do it based on what you see? That numbers aren't adding up? My money is on the line here. If somebody is trying to fool me, I'd like for somebody to let me know what they think. This could also help avoid any future problems with other members incase this person tries to pull similiar shit with somebody else.

Also, this isn't the J/V forum so don't try to offer me any j/v's or opportunties, this isn't the section of the forum for that.

Am I in any legal position to remove the screenshot?

If not, then why should I? If I feel this member was trying to scam me into sending him leads? What if he tries to pull this on somebody else? Couldn't my thread be a warning to others?

abcdabcd said:

I did ask him but, as I said he states that the numbers don't add up due to his coder and that the stats are only for the first two days. Although even if you add up the stats for the first two days, they don't add up.

I wouldn't have posted the screenshot here if I wasn't skeptical of it. That's why I was looking for feedback. 1k is the minimum that I can do, and 5k is the maximum. Although the 1k leads still cost me money, and that's why I'm trying to confirm if this look legit or not, so that I can make a decision to proceed with this person or not.

If somebody, brought these stats to you in order for you to invest in them, would you do it based on what you see? That numbers aren't adding up? My money is on the line here. If somebody is trying to fool me, I'd like for somebody to let me know what they think. This could also help avoid any future problems with other members incase this person tries to pull similiar shit with somebody else.

Also, this isn't the J/V forum so don't try to offer me any j/v's or opportunties, this isn't the section of the forum for that.

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You're barking at the wrong tree buddy (me)

first of all, you posted in the shit list

I handle more JVs than anyone on this forum and they are all built upon trust. If any of my partners posted something about me on the "shit" list, I would NEVER work with them.

This is private information

and for your information - anyone can fake screenshots, that's not the point. If you are so skeptical, you may not be in the position to JV.

Just my advice, don't get pwn'd on this thread - a fair warning

abcdabcd said:

Am I in any legal position to remove the screenshot?

If not, then why should I? If I feel this member was trying to scam me into sending him leads? What if he tries to pull this on somebody else? Couldn't my thread be a warning to others?

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You aren't in any legal position but based upon who runs that place - you can be in some deep trouble

You are exposing personal information

A warning should be based on experience and proof

are these real?

check your PM box by the way

I'm interested in working with trueblood as well. I havn't talked to him yet, but I did see his sig, and added him on AIM.

Please keep us all posted with how things go =]

How about now? Is that ok? Or should I remove that to?

If it's that big of a deal then I'll remove that to and ask a mod to delete this thread. Apparently, it's not a big deal to some if there's somebody here trying to play people and get them to work with you based on false pretenses.

Seriously, just add up the numbers, and this person is making up some skeptical reasons as to why the numbers don't add up. Nobody cares there's people like this here trying to do whatever they can (fake screenshot?) to get people to spend their money/energy on?

I know how to handle j/v's, I've handled successful j/v's here but, if somebody comes to you like this, I want to know what others think. Would you want somebody like this to be partners with you? That is sending you fake screenshots to get them to work with you?

What's the Jage stat column represent?

It's already been confirmed by another member that I won't mention, that the screenshot is a fake.

Let me just be clear here, as I stated in a PM to another member regarding this topic:

We don't know who this person is, if he's trying to up his post count or try to fit in here to do more fucked up shit so maybe in some way I've helped others not get screwed over. I mean, I've never had to fake a screenshot and never would to work with somebody. It's very dishonest and not somebody I would want to work with or recommend anybody else to work with. I don't think there's anything wrong with other people letting know that. There are a lot of scum bags here, the more that people aware of who is who, I think it's better for the overall community.

You are an idiot. I don't know TrueBlood at all but I can tell you this. You can't confirm or deny the screenshot is fake. It's simple logic. If you're wary, start with a low volume as black stated. Don't post screenshots he didn't want you to post. There's reasons things can not add up. I can make a screenshot that adds up and shows you I make $5000 a day from adsense but it doesn't mean shit.

I don't like you and I think the way you went about this was wrong.

abcdabcd said:

It's already been confirmed by another member that I won't mention, that the screenshot is a fake.

Let me just be clear here, as I stated in a PM to another member regarding this topic:

We don't know who this person is, if he's trying to up his post count or try to fit in here to do more fucked up shit so maybe in some way I've helped others not get screwed over. I mean, I've never had to fake a screenshot and never would to work with somebody. It's very dishonest and not somebody I would want to work with or recommend anybody else to work with. I don't think there's anything wrong with other people letting know that. There are a lot of scum bags here, the more that people aware of who is who, I think it's better for the overall community.

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bro why do you need to ask? you can see it for yourself

~@-kanye-west-@~ said:

bro why do you need to ask? you can see it for yourself

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I wanted to confirm and so that others will know and think twice before working with somebody who behaves like this.

Was that really wrong of me?

proexploit said:

There's reasons things can not add up.

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What exactly are those reasons? I've been in the internet marketing industry for several years (a lot more whitehat experience than blackhat) and never seen anything like this.

What you see in the screenshot is supposed to be just basic mathematics 1+1=2

If on 9-21-09 you get 1 visitor and on 9-22-09 you get 2 visitors. Then simple mathetmatics tells you that 1+2=3. So, total 3 visitors. So, what can possibly be wrong here?

If I really am wrong, I would really like to know what the possibilities are, I can admit when I'm wrong. If somebody can prove me wrong, I'm listening.

Maybe if one of the columns was off, I could understand. However, every single column except for 1? Really? You can believe this shit? Like I said, if I'm wrong. I can admit it, so give me some logical explanations and I'm listening.

I dont get it..

for all who are seeing this thread and OP:

best way to avoid this is to ask for temporary log in info to view stats

and/or

start with low amounts - it takes risk but that's risk YOU take

just trust your instincts...if you think the numbers are phoney just don't do business with the guy....

abcdabcd said:

There is a bhw member on here by the name of: "Trueblood" he sent me this screenshot so I will do a test with him and send him 1k CL leads. The leads cost me so I wanted to make sure whoever I test with was already making money and just wanting to scale.

I questioned him on the screenshot he sent me, since if you add up the numbers in all of the columns except for "submits" stats they don't add up to the total. I even put all the data into Excel and made sure they weren't doing averages for the "total" but, the daily stats don't match up to the final "total" in any way.

I would like to do business with him but, the natural skeptical side of me made me think twice. So, I thought I'd ask here for some feedback just to be sure if maybe I was wrong for questioning him. He says it's a tracking error and an issue he's going to bring up with his coder. However, I've been in internet marketing for several years and never seen anything like this, where the daily stats don't match up to to the total. This is simple mathematics, right?

Here's the screenshot:

I told him I would post this screenshot here but, he begged me not to. I don't know why he would do that. I hope my speculations are wrong though, maybe he would give me a 2nd chance to j/v with him if you all think I'm wrong about this. I told him, I'm not trying to accuse him of anything but, my business perspective and previous negative experiences with j/vs tells me to be careful with my investments. That's all. I'm sure from a business perspective this would be understandable.

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