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Does Black Hat World Strip EXIF Data on Uploaded Images?

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  1. Noah Hawryshko

    Noah Hawryshko Senior Member

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    Does anybody know if Black Hat World incorporates any system like the aforementioned?
     
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    Why does it matter? Surely if you are security conscious you would strip the metadata yourself.
    You could test this yourself too.
     
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    Your answer makes sense. So the process to check auto EXIF removal would be: check EXIF > upload > download > check EXIF? I'm not missing anything, right?

    And I'm not normally that security conscious. I only hide my IP from members because doxing databases exist that can associate IP addresses with names or accounts. If an IP address becomes associated with both a name and an account, then the doxer can leverage the IP address to learn more about the target.
     
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    Tp stip the data you right click the image in your folder, click properties, then details, the click remove properties and personal information, click remove the following properties from the file, tick the boxes you want to remove and then click OK.
     
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    Hey! You're that guy that made $200.00 on your first day of CPA, right? I'm a fan. I'm actually starting CPA within a week using some of your methodology.

    Also, appreciate this. I didn't know it was so simple in Windows.
     
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    I've been doing CPA for years, that was just with the little FB group posting deal I started about a year or so ago.

    Yeah, I found about how easy it was by accident one day just messing around with images for a project I was working on and was surprised a well.
     
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    How are you for schedule/work load? Can I ask a quick question?
     
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    Alright, thanks so much!

    First, I can't understand why people use landing pages. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know there are no egregious logistical repercussions to bypassing Facebook's link-blocking system and posting direct-link affiliate offers as opposed to using landing pages, right? I hear a lot about landing pages, but almost every CPA offer I've looked at presents a landing page of it's own after the potential lead clicks the affiliate link, so it almost seems like there's no need to create a second one. Wouldn't direct-linking exponentially reduce the CTR lost by those who click on the first landing page but fail to click through to the affiliate link's landing page in these situations?

    Second, is there any repertoire of trustworthy internet marketing statistics and studies? I'm looking specifically for numerically-focused resources about internet marketing methods and practices, rather than conceptually-focused ones similar to those provided here on BHW. During my research into IM and CPA, I made sure that I got my information from a number of different sources. Various IM blogs and websites have cited (and linked to) studies to back up the claims of their article or methodology. Since seeing this, I was wondering if you knew what their primary source for these resources were. Though many of these exist in relation to general marketing and marketing psychology, I make sure to download every single IM one that I see because I can't find many that are specifically about IM.

    By the way, don't feel pressured to answer my questions with the same depth that I asked them in. I'm just trying to give you some perspective. Anything you can do to help answer these would be appreciated. Thanks BTB!
     
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    I'd almost never send someone direct to an offer from FB for a couple of reasons. One is that FB will block the affiliate link at some point as that happens a lot so one would have to be cloaking properly to keep that link alive. I'm an admin in some 20 FB groups and I see that happen with some of the guys that post affiliate links without cloaking properly or without cloaking at all.

    The other reason is that I think I am a better copywriter than most of those that build landing pages (yes, I know that is an arrogant statement) and know my target audience better as well. I want the person to be sold beyond a reasonable shadow of doubt before they go to the money page. Without preselling the conversion rate is surely not going to be as good as if they go to the page knowing they are going to have to take action. I let them know on my landers that have the links to offers on them, that clicking that link will take you to a place where you have to "act" and even give a hint what actions they will have to take. If I drive 80,000 people to my lander over a couple of days, as I show in the image below, and those people are presold on what they are about to see when they click the links on my lander, the success rate is significantly better than if I just sent them to the lander which is generic in nature.

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    Preselling on your landing page is mandatory in my opinion to not waste your traffic so when they go to your affiliate offer they are prepped to act and gets you a high EPC and an excellent conversion rate.

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    I'm nowhere that cerebral to have any clue as to some kind of encyclopedic sources such as that nor would I read them if I did know. I'm open to others showing me the way but unless I cut my own path using my own machete, I'm hesitant to walk down it myself.

    There really are too many variables to be able to give numbers that would apply to each of us so those kinds of studies and statistics can't possibly be applicable to the masses because the industry is so varied.

    Perhaps if there were studies on Payday Loan IMers in North America who marketed via Adwords PPC with budgets of $1,000.00 to $2,500.00 a week, then that may hold some water but a general overview would seem to be of little to no use, at least to me.
     
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