Do you think Billionaires should exist?

Do you think billionaires should exist?


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Billionaires can exist. The society should be focused on creating new wealth, not redistributing existing wealth. Perhaps it is not fair for billionaires to have so much money, but the solution is not to have the government redistribute their money. The real solution is to create opportunities for poor people to contribute their work to society and become rewarded and create new wealth.
 
Not sure why they shouldn't, people can make lots of money without any help. Why does anyone think they should not be allowed?

Many actually distribute their wealth to charities and funding plus ask to raise their taxes. Strange, teenage question.

Know friends and family who came from NOTHING to not quite billionaires but millionaires.
 
We'll agree to disagree at this stage :-)

Best of luck with your projects.

It doesn't matter in this case do I consider your post a personal attack or not. What I'm saying is that if you are starting your post with "You don't know" you are actually losing attention from the person you are writing. I will go into the depth of that only if you insist. If you want to grab someone's attention starting with offensive sentences is not a very good idea :) Am I doing it right now? Yes. Sorry. But, maybe it's a good example.

Cryptocurrencies, altho the name can be misleading, are not just currencies. With crypto, you can be a shareholder of a company just by buying a particular currency (not Bitcoin). So you don't need anything else, no contracts, no minimum investment or anything else. Someone from Africa or Japan can buy for example 0.00001% or 100% of the ownership in some solar electricity company from South California, just by buying their tokens. Without hustle, without leaving their armchair, much more people will be investors. 5$ is just an example, what I've tried to say is that anyone will be able to invest, even some 18-year-old kid from Uzbekistan. There are many people that are not investors just because of its a hustle and pain in the ass and just don't like papers and lawyers and so on and is not cheap.

Let's say Google is worth 1T USD (just an example). All you need is 1T tokens, anyone can buy or sell those tokens on a free market. Anyone can buy 100% or 0.00000001% of the company and have adequate rights in participating in the management and everything is managed by smart contracts and that condition cannot be changed without turning off the internet in the entire world. It will be so easy to invest or sell companies or shares and get dividends.

I don't see Bitcoin as useless. Now it looks like useless only because of the scaling issue (transaction speed 4-5 tx per second is laughable for any business). But with scaling issues solved and it will happen in the next 5 years for sure (BTC or some other project it doesn't matter) maybe earlier, there will be no reason for fiat money anymore. All you will need is a smartphone to pay anything, to store any data without any risk of losing, deleting or changing anything. You can automate any paying process (like paying out dividends based on the per cent of shares you hold). BUT, most importantly, there will be no more reason for tax services to existing anymore. Tax will be paid with every transaction automatically. The Government will receive its share from every single transaction without moving a finger. All they need to do is to make a cryptocurrency and to apply smart contract that will execute everything automatically. They will not miss that opportunity. Why would they?

To return to the theme. So we have sociological and technical part of the issue. I'm more interested in the sociological part. With technical part is kinda hard to predict the exact outcome and I am not advocating that every billionaire should dump their money right now, without thinking through it. First, do no harm. But I believe that we need a good plan to get two extremes (hungry people and people with 1000 rooms houses) closer because it will benefit society as a whole so much and it ill be beneficial for both extremes.

But ultimately, in an ideal scenario, with 100% unselfish billionaires (lol) I am sure that with their resources and their power, with their abilities, they are able to find a good way to make the more healthy economy, more middle class-oriented and connected society. The first step would be for us and them to recognize the greed in holding assets just for themselves.
 
And even if you agreed they shouldn't exist, exactly how would one enforce that? Should we develop some technology that ensured once a tycoon tipped over $999,999,999, he or she would vanish from existence?
 
I really think world would be better place if everyone have equal amount of money and whole population would have same purpose.
 
Hi i think we must set a limit how much one person can earn , 1 million it is enough for one person and his family to do whatever he want , the money should spread to people not gathering to a few , yes people ho deserve it must take more not all
 
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@splishsplash isn't 7 million per day enough? You'll be able to make enormous profit while your employees live a life worth living.
 
Amazon couldn't afford to give all 640,000+ Amazon employees a $40 per hour raise that would cost the company an additional $54 billion per year. Jeff Bezo is only paid $1.6 million a year at Amazon after benefits are included.
 
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@splishsplash isn't 7 million per day enough? You'll be able to make enormous profit while your employees live a life worth living.


What kind of ridiculous nonsense is this? He does not make $215 million per day, or $78.5 billion per year. Amazon in 2018 had a turnover of 232 billion.

He is the majority shareholder, owning around 12% of Amazon, and the current CEO.

He does not have a take-home pay of 34% Amazon's turnover. Not even I take anywhere close to that from my company and I own 100%. I take 20% as dividends, and the bigger your company the less you take as profit.


This ridiculous statement is making out that he's got a salary of $215 mil per day while everyone else is getting normal wages. It's just ridiculous.

He takes a salary of $82k/year. He's never taken a stock award and he's received $1.6 million in security related services and business travel each year. That's a far cry from $78.5 billion per year.

Amazon also pays its employees a minimum wage of $15/hr. Double the US minimum.
 
It is okay for them to exist, but why does an individual need one billion dollars or more?
I honestly don't know. It Doesn't matter. It's not for us to decide what other people can or can't do with their money.
 
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