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Delicate situation: need your input…

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  1. Lehman3920

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    I?m dealing with a partner in a joint venture who puts in very little work and is basically freeloading of the hard work I?ve been putting in this project for almost a year now. There have been many situations where I had to kick him out or just halt the project, only for him to beg for another chance and eventually not holding to his word once again. Now I find myself in a somewhat unpleasing situation as I?m unsure what would be the best decision.

    I?m currently considering my options.

    What would you do if you was me? After reading the below story?

    Background
    About one year ago I started a joint venture with this guy that I?ve known for more than 8 years from some chat room.
    I had an idea, strategy and A-Z plan to start a website and make bank with it. I have a background in Marketing and SEO. Have done many freelance jobs for corporate giants and have a very good understanding of the search engine game.

    There is only one problem that has been a hindrance for the past 10+ years. My gambling addiction has got the best of me most of my life which resulted in me having a large debt of over 65K dollars and not progressing in life. I?m almost hitting 30?s and this plan should have made me a reasonable amount of money to either re-invest or pay of a big portion of my debt.

    As you might know gamblers are broke most of the time. So when starting this plan, I figured if this guy (an American) can type a million words in a chat room where he?s wasting his life, he can create content as I needed lots of to make it work. After another day of losses at the casino and being broke again, I decided to reach out to him about a year ago which I regret to this day.

    The plan was to create an adult site in a specific niche with a 50/50 distribution as long he keeps his responsibilities. The project is currently raking in $2,500 a month and growing. It could easily earn 4x that if it was in somebody else?s hands.

    After a few weeks of training him the content still wasn?t top notch. He?s a high school dropout and doesn?t have the best control of the basics (grammar, spelling & punctuation). So I proofread every article he creates and edit where necessary.

    The guy had little or no SEO knowledge and everything he did on his own always resulted in a failure, while he?s on social security. On top of that, he got serious dental and mental problems. He spends a lot of time in a chatroom looking for trouble with people, and can?t let things go very easily.

    During the course of this project I had to warn him many times to stay away from chat rooms. Because when he visits them he neglects his responsibilities. As mentioned above this often causes friction. I for my life can?t understand why people are wasting their life in chat rooms instead of contributing.

    I constantly get annoyed by the fella and the real distribution of work is basically 65/35%. He does a lot of shit that?s completely unacceptable, including trying to blackmail me when I halted/threatened to kick him out the project to release all KW data to attract competition, and giving away the idea for free. I called his bluff and eventually he didn?t do it and I have him one last opportunity in January without further improvement. He still does to little?

    Now he?s constantly anxious and dare I say mentally ill. He procrastinates all the time postponing his writing responsibilities and just keeps lying in my face. I no longer can stand the guy and any bit of sympathy I had for him has been long gone.

    I myself am not perfect either, after 5 months (august 2015) I lost 1K by gambling it while it was supposed to be invested in the project. After that we continued working and I apologized for the fact. I finally for the first time in my life seem to have my gambling addiction under control. I haven?t spent a penny on it for almost 5 months now.
    So this project did bring something good. Since the incident he has been paid more than $5,100 which is like 40%.

    As far as skills concerned, he?s not very skilled apart from writing content according to a trained formula, which he doesn?t do well by the way, he?s not bringing in any significant value. He has the mind frame of a child and constantly brings his own problems into the project (mentally, physically etc.), and makes excuses for basically anything playing the victim role.

    I?m putting tons of hours to get this project to work out but I?m tired of dealing with a freeloader. I have enough niches in mind which I know will pay off eventually, However, with white hat SEO it will take 4-6 months to rank as you might know. But eventually I can do anything else at any time even if he releases confidential information.

    Every time I tried to kick him out he begs for his content (130+ articles) which he has been compensated for more than $5,100 by now. At this point, the project is about 60% off from reaching maturity and possibly flipping the site which should take a couple more months (4-5).

    Right now I?m even prepared to give him all that content back cause he?s not worth the headache as I?m a professional who doesn?t have the patience nor tolerance for laziness, mental issues and procrastination, let alone chat rooms. I?m sick and tired of constantly hearing excuses.

    The options I figured out I have:
    A) Kick him out of the project permanently without any further compensation nor any articles which he has been paid for. My problem is that I?m dealing with somewhat of a lunatic that can?t accept such measures even though he doesn?t deserve to stay on.

    I value my privacy, and would not like to see my private information all over the web with some porn shit attached to it as my family is strongly religious. It would be not worth it to live with the shame. I can do the same to him, including reporting him for tax evasion. But that would be a lose-lose situation.

    B) Kick him out of the project permanently and give back his articles and let him keep the $5K+. He?s not worth the headache. The problem that would possibly arise then, is that he would try to emulate the site and do everything I do, and I?m not ruling out leaking private information either.

    C) Let him stay on and spend the money I?m supposed to send him for coming month on content writers to create the remaining pages and eventually sell.

    D) Spend less time on this project and let him stay on, and start with my other ideas that will work out guaranteed so I have more than one decent income stream.

    E) Flip the site immediately, give him half and move on. I think the site could sell for 20K plus now and perhaps 30K once finished.

    F) Write the majority of the remaining content myself and let him stay on, and just swallow my pride until completion and sell for 30K and move on.

    Basically I?m the main editor, writer, SEO consultant, proofreader, A/B tester and who knows what else all at once. I made a lot of sacrifices including my income from freelance jobs to make this project work.

    I clearly made a mistake by working with the guy. I knew beforehand he was mental and that there was a certain risk factor. Now I would like to know how others who might have found themselves in a similar situation have dealt with such. Everything right now is under my own name, he has no access to the vital areas of the site (Host) and I live abroad and he does in The States.

    What would you do?
     
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    I forgot one more option.

    G) Let him stay on and compensate him according to the work he does which is very little.

    Basically payments get received weekly. I pay him a portion every two weeks. Over the past 30 days he has written 17 articles put against 40 of mine including all types of stuff I do for the site to increase income.

    But the problem keeps occurring, and I have no hope of it improving either.
     
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    Anyone at all that feels to share his take on this? I'm about to choose option B, as I really can't be bothered dealing with imbecile that depends on drugs anymore.

    But something tells me it perhaps isn't the best way to go forward for me either.
     
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    Are they update free???
     
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    Technically the articles that are published now that he had a hand in have been edited from 20% up to 50%.

    He would receive the articles back in the state he provided them (not a good state). I figure I can easily rewrite the articles with the highest traffic numbers and maintain whatever the edits were I made, and hire rewriters to do the same to all remaining articles in a quick fashion.

    Sure, the site will take a hit if half is missing for a month, but the majority of the early articles are already going down in rankings and definitely could need a fresh update. Only downside is that I'm certain he will copy the idea, since he got nothing else to have success with.

    He's very naive and makes dumb decisions all the time with stupid investments.
     
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    The site is making about $100 a day at this point on the last 3 month average.

    Unfortunately he doesn't realize that he would not have made a dime if it wasn't for me.

    How can people be so selfish and have absolutely no regard or respect towards others when it comes to agreements and commitments. It just baffles my mind!
     
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    If you keep a pet snake sooner or later it will bite you but sure it will kick him out don't be scared tell your family if he is trying to defame you no one will care on internet so many people have tried defame so many other many times and even it works seeing his personality he will try bother you for first few months but when he sees that you do not care I am sure he will give up...
     
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    Pay him anything you still owe him, get rid of him, stop gambling, done and done.

    If he tries to blackmail you, just remind him of the tax evasion thing. No one has to lose anything.
     
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    That us a lot of text for nothing. You know what you need to do.
    Dump the guy.
    Get yourself to Gamblers Anonymous or seek out other help to beat your problem.
    You are an addict, so until you learn to control yourself you will always have problems.
     
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    Well it's not as easy as you think it is. My family is muslim and I can absolutely not afford to have the family name being degraded when it comes to that. If he didn't have my name or address the decision would have been taken ages ago. I also want to point out that this guy got suicidal thought and is a complete mess. He tried threatening me before and I dared him to do it, and eventually he gave up as I called his bluff.

    But I'm tired of playing these silly games. The project is maybe 200 articles + 4/5 months away from completion after which it can be sold for a hefty price.
     
  11. Lehman3920

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    I have more on him than that. He got various nude profiles of himself circulating online, but as mentioned above the guy is a nutcase, depends on drugs and is suicidal.

    As far the gambling thing concerned, that's the only good thing that came off this project. I got my discipline back and haven't wasted a penny in about 5 months, while usually I would lose 80% of every penny I received within a few days time. I consider myself healed from the terrible gambling addiction that has prevented me from so many things over the past decade.

    He needs a lot of dental work done to get his life together and this project is his only chance as he doesn't have the heart for IM. I'm simply having to play many roles, that of a lecturer, baby sitter, psychiatrist, advisor, SEO consultant and it's taking its toll.
     
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    Never mix life with business. It's his responsibility to sort his life out, not yours.

    Congrats on the progress with the gambling too.
     
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    First thing you need to do is put your shit in order. If you don't stop gambling that freeloader associate of yours is the last of your worries. You'll end up selling your site for cheap in order to gamble some more.

    Go to a program, clean yourself out. Let the project run as it is and after you're clean you can get back in it and hire copywriters.