Contemplating the Universe.

'Nothing' is actually very difficult to attain/describe. It seems the universe abhors the concept of nothing - if you take an area of space, remove all the particles, radiation and so on, you'll find that that space still weighs something. This is the product of virtual particles popping in and out of existence. It seems if you have nothing, you'll always have something.
 
very interesting thread but we'll end up going about in circles, this contemplation could make one go crazy but i guess maybe somehow maybe sometime. we all will find out.
 
There will never be a way to prove how the spec of dust came from absolutely nothing. How can something be created from absolutely nothing. And if it happens, why don't we see examples occurring in the universe.

But we do see it. Closely watch an empty space for long enough and eventually you will observe a quantum fluctuation. Particles will literally pop out of nothingness.

How? Why? You don't need a cause, that's just how vacuums roll.
 
It's all in the mind! Shut your mind to everything, in a metaphysical (meta = above, beyond) way, and you'll know what's exactly happening, how it happened, and when it will end, and what happens after. The mind has limitations. The subconscious hasn't. It finds the right answers every time it is allowed to work absolutely freely. It won't then give you ten different answers to what's 2 plus 2. It will open the real "universe" to you, and you shall become one with it forever after that, even if the mind returns and tries to rule you. The right answers are hidden deep inside you. Develop yourself towards knowing the truth and finding real peace with your SELF and you shall know what's the real right for you. Just knowing those answers you've asked has really no meaning until you are ready to rediscover the real you in you! :) Until then, all the scientists and others will keep you in constant loop of "distractions"... Their truth and conclusions are ever changing with time, you see; imho of course.
 
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When it comes to time, entropy is your answer.

Things in our everyday life follow a certain rules. For example, glass falls from a table and is shattered to pieces, not the other way around. If the shuttered glass will jump on the table and "deshatter" itself, your mind will immediately conclude that time went backwards.

Entropy is a measure of chaos, and the 2nd law of thermodynamics states that chaos (entropy) almost always increases. Shattered glass is a more chaotic state of the glass, thus its natural for the glass to shatter.

Same goes for everything in the universe. Since the big bang the entropy of the universe keeps increasing, and the grand finale will be when the universe will become so chaotic that nothing would be able to increase its entropy anymore.

See that bold "almost" up there? In very rare occurrences the entropy can become smaller. E.q. its entirely possible for the universe to become organized suddenly. This is your moment just before the big bang. Then for trillions of years the normal rules apply - it becomes more and more chaotic, according to the 2nd law of thermodynamics.

In simple terms we call this the "Chaos Theory" or even the "Butterfly Effect" right?
 
This is probably the most interesting thing I've learned from this thread. Need to look into this. Thanks. :)

You're most welcome. :-) There is a very good popular science book that deals with the subject, I honestly enjoyed the read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fabric_of_the_Cosmos

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In simple terms we call this the "Chaos Theory" or even the "Butterfly Effect" right?

Chaos theory is a one hell of bombastic name for a rather simple phenomena. :-) I dont know of any connection between Chaos theory and entropy. It mostly used as a mathematical apparatus for weather prediction and satellite launches.
 
100% theory and no facts.
If the experts were so smart they wouldn't spend their life trying to prove there is no God.

For christs sake make bubble gum flavor last longer than 2 minutes.

Or maybe make a cow without the chemical that makes me whistle out my butt all night long.

Smart people solve problems. These guys make big words.

 
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100% theory and no facts. Smart people solve problems. These guys make big words.

Actually these 'theories' have given you more than you realise.

Without quantum 'theory' we wouldn't have Semiconductors for example - which means there would be no such thing as IM, BHW or computers.
 
100% theory and no facts.
If the experts were so smart they wouldn't spend their life trying to prove there is no God.

For christs sake make bubble gum flavor last longer than 2 minutes.

Or maybe make a cow without the chemical that makes me whistle out my butt all night long.

Smart people solve problems. These guys make big words.

You really should consult a doctor about your stomach. The less you whistle at nights, the longer will the bubble gum flavor last.

God is a convenient answer for any question out there. Not everyone is ready to accept a convenient answer. Why not respect that?

About theory... Take Einstein, 100% theory. As a result you have a GPS navigator.
 
If the current universe in unfathomable, have you read about the multiverse theory? Or the 12 (I think) dimensions that have been observed. And the double slit experiment... I love this stuff!

Is it possible for humans to perceive any of the other dimensions, perhaps with "senses" which are not yet called or thought of senses yet?
 
Is it possible for humans to perceive any of the other dimensions, perhaps with "senses" which are not yet called or thought of senses yet?

These "extra dimensions" (if they exist) are not our everyday dimensions. For example, if there were 4 space dimensions instead 3 you would easily notice the 4th dimension, because mass and energy would constantly appear out of nowhere (read 4th dimension) and disappear in the same manner.

Here, is an example of 3d object passing thru 2-dimensional plane. For those, who live on the plane and are unable to see the 3-rd dimension, it looks like a circle appears out of nowhere, and then disappears:

flatland.gif


These extra dimensions are either extremely small, or do not interact with energy/matter.
 
You should read Flatland by Edwin Abbott - it is about exactly this.

Also, in our universe mass and energy are constantly appearing out of nowhere

These "extra dimensions" (if they exist) are not our everyday dimensions. For example, if there were 4 space dimensions instead 3 you would easily notice the 4th dimension, because mass and energy would constantly appear out of nowhere (read 4th dimension) and disappear in the same manner.

Here, is an example of 3d object passing thru 2-dimensional plane. For those, who live on the plane and are unable to see the 3-rd dimension, it looks like a circle appears out of nowhere, and then disappears:

flatland.gif


These extra dimensions are either extremely small, or do not interact with energy/matter.
 
Where did that one spec of dust came from?

We don't know that...maybe one day we will, maybe we won't. Maybe some alien race somewhere in the Universe have all figured out right now.

Mind blowing..
 
You guys should read this book.
It 100% will blow your mind. It is not a fantasy story book.
But a bunch of interview with different type of people soul via hypnosis.

Each people/soul that he interview, will come out with similar type of information, regarding about universe, parallel universe, dimension, quantum physics, consciousness, developer, life/death, and other type of concept of existent. Its pure logic, and almost everyone already come out with this complex idea I think.

journeyofsouls.jpg

(dont judge a book by its cover)
 
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^ Souls...it's everything in our mind..

That book will explain to you about your mind.
Alpa state, Beta state, and frequency, not just about "soul" or mind(based on your physical brain).
 
That book will explain to you about your mind.
Alpa state, Beta state, and frequency, not just about "soul" or mind(based on your physical brain).

Definitely gonna read it, not now, most probably in December when I hope I will have time to read some other books that I've already bookmarked.

Thanks for sharing..I'm curious if the book will really explain it to me.
 
Definitely gonna read it, not now, most probably in December when I hope I will have time to read some other books that I've already bookmarked.

Thanks for sharing..I'm curious if the book will really explain it to me.

1,2 chapter kinda boring.
But next few chapter it kinda fun to read.

It depend on the people by the way. :)
 
Just downloaded a pdf. Skimmed through it. What I read is very good and thought provoking!
 
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