damnez
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Chaturbate vs Stripcash affiliate programs
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TDR
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I know you are feeling bad but remember You are working for long-term income with rev-share journey, It's like sowing seeds, watering them and once it became a tree, it will give you fruits
TDR
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CrakRevenue is not good for all, I seen most of guys complaining of shaving the earnings, It would be better if you go with LosPollos or iMonetizeit so you can get some good results!
TDR
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Maybe not LosPollos but iMonetizeit have some offers, You just need to talk to your affiliate manager, He will help you
vizercato
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The thing with the complaints about models stealing accounts was silly for several reasons.
1) Chaturbate’s cookies don’t expire. So if a model gets members to sign up through their link the signup will still be credited to the first cookie, meaning, your cookie. The only way to circumvent this is asking members to sign up after clearing cookies or doing it on an incognito window. I saw only a couple of models write this in their bios and chaturbate support got them to remove it from their bios.
2) It is plain impossible to know why an account stops spending. So everyone on GFY claiming models stole their accounts were simply speculating in their imagination. I’ve been working affiliate for nearly 15 years. No big spender spends big forever and they disappear randomly. They will usually be spending credit and they run out of credit and stop cold turkey. Or they spend their savings, same effect. Very few people can sustain high spending over the long term. These accounts they have that stop spending suddenly, there’s a higher probability they ran out of money to spend than the idea that a model would steal it.
3) People don’t go through hoops for models unless they are a hardcore fan of the girl in question. By go through hoops I mean clearing cookies, letting go of an old account to make a new one for her etc. So nobody would lose accounts en masse, you could lose a whale, but that’s about it. If your entire affiliate income comes from a whale your issue isn’t models stealing your signups.
I realize that scandal over at GFY a few years ago is what got people to stop using their affiliate and it got Chaturbate support to change the promo tool selection which only fucked then in the ass harder. Fucked all of us really since conversions have sucked since.
vizercato
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The thing with the complaints about models stealing accounts was silly for several reasons.
1) Chaturbate’s cookies don’t expire. So if a model gets members to sign up through their link the signup will still be credited to the first cookie, meaning, your cookie. The only way to circumvent this is asking members to sign up after clearing cookies or doing it on an incognito window. I saw only a couple of models write this in their bios and chaturbate support got them to remove it from their bios.
2) It is plain impossible to know why an account stops spending. So everyone on GFY claiming models stole their accounts were simply speculating in their imagination. I’ve been working affiliate for nearly 15 years. No big spender spends big forever and they disappear randomly. They will usually be spending credit and they run out of credit and stop cold turkey. Or they spend their savings, same effect. Very few people can sustain high spending over the long term. These accounts they have that stop spending suddenly, there’s a higher probability they ran out of money to spend than the idea that a model would steal it.
3) People don’t go through hoops for models unless they are a hardcore fan of the girl in question. By go through hoops I mean clearing cookies, letting go of an old account to make a new one for her etc. So nobody would lose accounts en masse, you could lose a whale, but that’s about it. If your entire affiliate income comes from a whale your issue isn’t models stealing your signups.
I realize that scandal over at GFY a few years ago is what got people to stop using their affiliate and it got Chaturbate support to change the promo tool selection which only fucked then in the ass harder. Fucked all of us really since
vizercato
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Token camsites is slow to convert because it is a freemium model. The member clicks and sees exactly what he wants to see right then and there. It is only after a while they find a girl they like enough to spend money. Revshare takes time, sometimes months, be patient. Once an account starts spending there’s a chance they will continue to do so for months or maybe even years and you get 20% of whatever they spend. TBH this is like a giant marshmallow test. See if you pass
Turbo B.
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affkey - expires: 2024-08-28, fromaffiliate expires: Session. Just tested. Models asking to clear the cookies and signup under their aff URL - by offering "something special" - in private chats as example. Also Chaturbate allows links in BIO's - big part of spenders goes by these links out of Chaturbate to Onlyfans, Manyvids, etc.
Usually if you sending same amounts of traffic and free regs your database is growing and earnings at least should be stable or even increase. This was from 2017 till this year. The earnings started to drop and reached 2018-2019 level. It dropped ~2x compared to periods of previous years.
Check out how the spenders are running out from my account:
Turbo B.
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vizercato
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1) About clearing cookies etc: That is what I was trying to convey. A model can ask members all day to signup clearing cookies with her affiliate, but who is going to go through with that? Only a hardcore fan of hers. People don't do shit these days. Nobody is going to go through all that effort. Promising stuff in exchange for a signup through her affiliate is even less likely since a member is attached to his "persona" and if you are a good affiliate you know incentives don't work. Member will make new account to claim freebie and then go back to his main account. Not only that but models have the same affiliate panel as us and don't know if a spender is under her program, they see the same things we do (just a number for ID not a username)
2) About your program growing forever or remaining stable: this is not always the case, at all. Even if you are sending the same amount of traffic and the same quality of it, understand revenue is not linear. Revenue ebbs and flows with the economy, the political climate, with other sites gaining prominence, on token sites it also depends on tipper density, with your own effectiveness at bringing good traffic and with Chaturbate's promo tool quality (which has DECLINED because they listened to the GFY retards and changed their algorithm to feature a different style of model) If the economy is a wreck your users will spend less, in fact the first thing people cut off when money is tight is porn and entertainment.
Thank you for sharing your data, I appreciate it and I have seen the same decline in my own affiliate program, although mine started to decline earlier, maybe 2021. However, if I was you I wouldn't put much stock on "linear models" that try to predict future trends. They almost never succeed at predicting anything and make you act in ways that contradict common sense. Use your five senses, it's much more reliable than imagination or "linear models"
TDR
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Is it all about Chaturbate ?
TDR
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First better UI design and Second if you select best performing model option instead of direct homepage, They will show country's origin based model like if user is from Ireland, It will Ireland based model !
vizercato
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What does it matter where the models are from? It's not a dating site... the members aren't going to be meeting any of them
When you say the design is better, what exactly is better? I would like to be able to handpick the models the embed codes display. Pick them specifically, not in a general way like "big boobs" or "tattoos" but I want a specific model or group of models. Is it possible?
Turbo B.
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The best option is to split your traffic and test. When I started with Chaturbate and couple of years later decided to test Stripchat - I did not had any success - as the test was too short.
Send some traffic to Stripchat and compare - maybe your traffic performs much better on Chaturbate.
As I said, if you are running some cam aggregator sites and doing SEO - Stripchat API sucks, as you will see in the first place chinese and japanese models.
Send some traffic to Stripchat and compare - maybe your traffic performs much better on Chaturbate.
As I said, if you are running some cam aggregator sites and doing SEO - Stripchat API sucks, as you will see in the first place chinese and japanese models.
vizercato
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No, I have very high quality tier 1 traffic, they convert extremely well. My doubts with promoting Stripchat are two:
First, I know Chaturbate affiliate inside out so it's very easy for me to use. If I start using Stripchat I will have a learning curve to go through and I don't know if I want to dedicate my time to learning a new panel, new system etc.
Second, so far the only sponsor I have ever worked with that hasn't shaved me has been Chaturbate. I 100% trust their program, and I have had real shit stories in the past with CPA networks and other camsites (MFC) they left me hanging after years of hard work by closing my account for no reason. Lost all my revshare accounts and was completely blindsided. I don't trust Stripchat because I have never worked with them and I would hate to dedicate time and effort to a program that might shave me.