Can't rank in google using SENuke and other tools

you could try going have some longer tail keywords that still have your keyword in them. for example - if you are ultimately targeting "lab dog training" target "yellow lab dog training" and "chocolate lab dog training" first. once you are ranking for those then go after the more competitive "lab dog training".

thank you for your responses guys!

So I think I'll go on with less competitive keywords now..

The page seems good, yesterday I've started with adwords and got I decent ROI till now... I'm concerned that the page will bring good money once it is ranked well in googlel.. So I guess the hardwork will start for me now...

I agree with tophat777 and fujing. Some niches are very competitive and very difficult to rank in Google even after lots of linkbuilding. I have a site about getting six pack abs - the domain has all the keywords, but even after putting in original content and serious linkbuilding the domain is nowhere in Google even for long tail keywords.

nodoubtgq79 said:

echaz it's a good start

i had a friend that couldn't get on page 1 for any keyword because he had some plugin creating duplicate content

do a
site:domain.com to see what comes up

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That's what I was going to write.
echaz did you check this?

echaz said:

thank you for your responses guys!

So I think I'll go on with less competitive keywords now..

The page seems good, yesterday I've started with adwords and got I decent ROI till now... I'm concerned that the page will bring good money once it is ranked well in googlel.. So I guess the hardwork will start for me now...

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How does it rank in other search engines?

blackhat.mmm said:

Oh yeah, and make sure you ping every single url you create within SEnuke!
Just pretend pinging is like brushing your sites' teeth: 2-3 times a day

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This is actually one of the main misstakes people do make. I assume that you most of us here are working with Wordpress blogs and then the first thing one should do before even thinkiong of posting anything to ones blog, is to deactivate or throw out the ping list. It was a great tool ones but with all those millions of blogs pinging daily it have lost a lot of the power it ones had.

The first feed pinged is often the first one spidered and one do want the spiders to find one through authority sites rather then from ones own PR0 blog feed.

See Pinging as ringing on Googles (among other search engines) door and when they open you tell them about this great site that you have made which they just have go and take a look at and top rank asp.

A too big ping list will ring on their door hundreds of times telling them this and anyone can get pissed off by less. I for sure would if Jehovas Withness or any lexicon/vacuum cleaner salesman was visiting my door hundreds of times per day.

If on another hand one aren't using a ping function from ones site and instead ping the social bookmark feeds the result will be different.

See it as if an authority walked over to Google and rang on their doorbell to tell them about this awesome site they ought to take a closer look at. This will always be more worth then if you are telling Google the same yourself.

It's also often better with fewer pings as it looks more genuine and less spammy.

You can bet you get better indexed and your bookmarking links will be more valued and in the end what we are doing is just to trying to get up the SEPRs and at the same time get Google to index our content as juicy content rather them spammy crap content.

As the initial poster was using SENuke you will be better off in this way and everybody who isn't using SENuke will have a little bit more of work but it's often enough with some 3-4 bookmarks on sites where one can get out a RSS feed for ones bookmarks and then ping them thorugh any online ping service. One often doesn't need so much more for the pinging.

The rest of backlinks one is building should only be there for drop feeding reputition over time and if they don't get found on day 1 it doesn't really matter. Continue building links and let them be found when they are. No need for pinging and messing around for getting the search engines to pick them up.

I can also assume that we soon are there when it comes to the major feed services out there (feedburner among others) as they are spidered hourly and they already now gives one less chance to control where the spiders should first pick up ones links. These services have for sure been authorities but as way too many bloggers out there are using them they loose a lot of their power as search engines can't destinct the content from these services as exceptionally good or bad either for that sake. It just indicates the need for the spiders to make a visit but nothing of value is added from them.

One should always let the spiders find one through authority sites and if anyone don't belive me... Just try it out and see for yourself

a0rta said:

A too big ping list will ring on their door hundreds of times telling them this and anyone can get pissed off by less. I for sure would if Jehovas Withness or any lexicon/vacuum cleaner salesman was visiting my door hundreds of times per day.

If on another hand one aren't using a ping function from ones site and instead ping the social bookmark feeds the result will be different.

See it as if an authority walked over to Google and rang on their doorbell to tell them about this awesome site they ought to take a closer look at. This will always be more worth then if you are telling Google the same yourself.

It's also often better with fewer pings as it looks more genuine and less spammy.

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Ok, thx. I haven't really heard that before, but I'm not going to argue
with a thanks-count like yours(!). I've personally never noticed a slap
from the SERPS for 'spamming' them with a daily barrage of pings, but to be
honest, I haven't even looked into it, so again, thank you for at least
bringing that possibility to my attention. I'll have to look into that further.

With SEnuke as you may or may not know, a lot of times you're building many
one-page 'blogs' on Web 2.0 sites, Wordpress among them but not really
the same King that it is for a lot of IMers. Now you are saying that it's still
OK to 'ring the SERP's bell' from these higher-authority Web 2.0 sites, right?
Esp. if you've recently (since the last ping) promoted this particular site
with bookmarks, etc, I assume?

Also, do you know of any more specific method when to ping so that's
the most effective as far as SERPs are concerned?

Thanks in advance a0rta, I really do appreciate your insight.



-BH3M

WTF?! That thank count is way out of line!!! And it's not me trying to play any tricks here...


I'ts not that one get slapped by the search engines but rather that one want to get a better result form less work.

I would love to answer the rest of your questions but I've got short of time and I think I ought to notify the staff here about my weird statistics before someone belives that I have manipulated it and get kicked out from here...

Will get back to you in short..

whenever this comes up i always would like to know how many backlinks do your competitors have?

Some of my competitors have over 1,000,000 backlinks... yeah keeps me really really busy.

How many backlinks per week are you creating on average? and what tools are you using to track this?

SEnuke is near the top of my "to buy" list. btw so i think it has a good amount of potential.

good luck

dont give up....keep backlinking!

Either pick out a new, less-competitive keyword or Ramp it Up.

Get XRumer on a vps or dedi and run linkfarmevolution and scrapebox.

you should try a free program called traffic travis or micro niche finder (paid), they can give you an idea of the competition in the niche you are going into, 30 mill results is probably to competitive tho.

I know how you feel, one of my sites is having a hard time, i have tried SEnuke and not had great results from what i can see in google webmaster tools. I am thinking of trying to use one of the Bookmarking site posting services in the BST section.

VitaVee said:

That's what I was going to write.
echaz did you check this?

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I've seen this before. But one terrible thing that I don't really know how to fight to, or handle is when somebody else create a site (or worst a bunch of sites) only for the purpose of copy your content in order to avoid you rank well...

echaz said:

So what could this be? It can not be the sandbox because my site is indexed, can it?

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Actually it can be sandboxed since when you are sandboxed you are still indexed and you can find your site indexed doing "site:yourdomain.com".

But you are nowhere to be found when searching manually page after page in SERPs.

I have a similar problem. Been a couple weeks and I just don't see backlinks showing up to my site. Its like they aren't being seen. This is only with SEnuke. When I article market I see all of my backlinks within a week or so.