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Building your own network for SEO and Webmaster Tools

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by codeman1234, Jun 3, 2013.

  1. codeman1234

    codeman1234 Power Member

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    Hello Guys,

    I am building my own private network of different websites I am starting with 6 different websites from same niche all of them with different C Class IP's and SEO Hosting but, I was wondering if the big issue here is for Google not to know the smart thing to do its to put every page in different Gmail Accounts so each one has its own Webmaster Tools account with its own personal email account instead of all been on the same account, right?

    Can someone please let me know how to proceed to make it work? Am I right at all?

    Thanks,
     
  2. pavan

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    that's the best practice so that in case if one site gets the penalty it won't affect your other sites
     
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    madinina Power Member Premium Member

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    I wouldn't even put webmaster tools
     
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  4. naskootbg

    naskootbg Power Member

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    I have private network like that and haven't webmasters tools to all blogs - I even don't use them and haven't problem. Unique DNS and IP + different template on each blog + private register on all domains is OK. For gmail PVA you can search the forum and find tons of ideas. You can also request somebody to do this for you (I am not this somebody). The person that can assist you will send you the verification meta data or file, you will paste/attach it. He will confirm and that is it. You really don't need this!
     
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  5. futurestunner

    futurestunner BANNED BANNED

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    what your budget ?
     
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  6. aranrond

    aranrond Newbie

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    Maybe I'm paranoid. I stay away from google webmaster tools. You can rank without them :)
     
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  7. scorpion king

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    Its a very bad idea to use WBT on your private blog network, you are giving a very good clue to google.
    I don't see any point why you need WBT on your blog network. If you looking for alternatives to WMT then have a look at Statcounter, Awstats or Webalizer.
     
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  8. codeman1234

    codeman1234 Power Member

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    Hello Guys,

    Thanks to all for the replies, really valuable info ;) for a beginner on the dark side :cool:

    So, best option it is not to user webmaster tools right?

    I am following almst all the requirements from naskootbg:

    - Different C Class IP
    - Private Registration on Domain

    But I am not following 2 things, first I am using SEOHosting.com from hostgator and they give you same DNS for all domains on your account and second I will use same template on them since it will be same design but for example I can change file name on template to make it different.

    Its the DNS going to be a problem?

    Also I am using wordpress in all websites, so, that makes it easier for website not to have errors and like scorpion_king says I can use Statcounter, Awstats or Webalizer. But, do I put all domain in same account in that case too?

    Any other advice for me to consider?

    Thanks again guys!
     
  9. scorpion king

    scorpion king Senior Member

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    If you are hosting in SEOhost.com they will give you different DNS.
    If you are using 3rd party analytics no need to go for unique Email ID, you can use one for all. How many sites you planned to do. If its morethan 50 sites i advice you to do mixture of Wordpress, HTML, Durpal, Joomla, etc.,
     
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  10. codeman1234

    codeman1234 Power Member

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    I thought so, because I did not trust to give Google to much info

    I was thinking the same

    100$ / month for 5 websites private network to start and then when I learn how to do it right then I will grow it more.

    Good to know, you are never paranoid when Google it is in the middle, at least you are not alone ;)

    No, I am using http://seohosting.com/ from Hostgator not SEOhost.com and they give you same DNS for all your domains, what 3rd party for analytics you recommend? For now I am doing 5 websites a small network to start and to understand first how to make this work once I do this then I will increase websites and budget, but for now just starting.

    Another question when you log in to WP Admin does my IP matter? Does Google Register those IPs even if I dont have analytics or webmaster tools?? Just want to be under Google's radar all the way :cool:

    Any other advice I should have in mind?

    Thanks again guys!!
     
  11. aranrond

    aranrond Newbie

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    If you're searching for a third party analytics software I can recommend Piwik. I use it on my most important websites.

    When logging to wp-admin your logging to your CMS hosted on seohost. Google can't register your IP in this situation.
     
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  12. deki33

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    Yes, you are doing right thing!
    Remove all footprints like the same webamster tools account, the statcounter or any other counter ID, the same contact email, etc..
     
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    Don't even bother using Webmasters Tools in my opinion. For everything else, you are on the right track.
     
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  14. JDIZM

    JDIZM Junior Member

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    There are mixed reviews about seohosting.com. When a lot of the blog networks got deindexed a lot of the providers were using seo hosting from hostgator.
     
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  15. scorpion king

    scorpion king Senior Member

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    3rd party analytics i mean Statcounter, Awstats or Webalizer. For 5 domains you can go with wordpress for all.
    It doesn't mater if you access admin panel from same IP. Google not gonna track this. But make sure you have different IP's set for all your domain. Contact your hoster for DNS they should be providing 5 different name servers.
     
  16. codeman1234

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    Thanks a lot, I will give it a try to Piwik, I know maybe I am a bit paranoic with IP's in login to my wp-admin panel, but, with Google you have to think in every alternative, I just don't want to get caught :cool:


    Ok so far so good, it is good to know ;)


    Thanks, thank god I am a paranoid freak :D its good for business!!

    I had no idea about it, for now it seems to work fine all my websites on network are indexed and it seems to work fine, I hope it keeps going like that but, thanks for the info its always good to know all points of view.

    Ok Cool, all domain has different C Classs IP's, about DNS I am talking to them to put Custom DNS in each domain, just one question is it good enough to change nameserver to for example >>> ns1.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com in one domain in other domain for example to put >> ns1.mydomain2.com ns2.mydomain2.com basically to put a custom nameserver from domain name but, with the same IP that is one option they are giving me. Is that good enough?

    Also which one you recommend Statcounter, Awstats or Webalize? Which one is the best or are all the same?



    There is one more thing I would like to ask you guys about, for most of all the SEO Reserch I have done and all I have learn of SEO so, far I can say that the most important backlinks for Google its everything related about educating people like .edu or .gov domains usually used by Universities, Schools or Government links that provide educational information and usefull information to user and also links from wikis or wikipedia, please correct me if I am wrong and for some reason all kind of wikis made on internet using software mediawiki they rank high and always have a really good PR you can check it here >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki/en there you can check all wikis made with mediawiki in english language and you will notice that all have a good PR minimum 3 and 5 as average in all cases or I least the ones I have seen. Because it seems that those links are very easy links to share and because of that people usually share it because subconsciously they think is about education or encyclopedia

    So, maybe it is a long shot but, I was thinking to make a small encyclopedia about my niche for example if my niche is about Basketball then make a small encyclopedia about basketball something called like wikibasketball.org putting from terms to everything on the game obviosly I will create this content with my own words to make it new content and make it the next website I will make on private network and I can use it to make backlinks since it will be easier to share those backlinks to make its PR raise fast. Also wikis are mostly .org domains, are those the best choice for this?

    So, I know this might be a bit out there but, I think its a good idea since wikis are websites that Google love and raise fast PR since it is easier for people to share it and boost domain authority, and that will help to put ranking up with great backlinks for your own websites that is the point of this network at least on my case. And I was thinking to make about 10 wiki pages from different niches on the network, but, I am starting with this one I know its a lot of work but, I think its worth it since those links it is very hard they will ever be affected By Google updates like Panda or Penguin since there the kind of websites that Google love educational that shares useful information no matter the niche.


    Sorry for the short story but, I wanted to explain my idea to other to understand, please let me know what you think about it.


    Thanks again guys!
     
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  17. CandyLand

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    $100 a month for 5 links? There are much better ways to spend your money than this, especially since there's no way that links from 5 new PR 0 (or N/A) links are going to rank your site.
     
  18. WellGrounded

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    I wouldn't even use private registration. If every site has private registration doesn't that seem fishy? I never get private registration and end up using fake information for whois to make it seem more natural. Besides, it's a waste of money and won't stop a C&D.

    Also, I have a friend of a friend who was using SEO hosting that had all his sites lose PR within his network so just a heads up. It's a pretty big footprint and gives Google an easy way to detect if all your links are coming from an SEO hosting provider.
     
  19. codeman1234

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    So, what you recommend?? what other hosting?? the one scorpion_king sayed its good? SEOHost.com??

    what you guys recommend, so, if I have to change hosting I do it now at the beginning not at the end. I dont want my private network to get slap because of hosting, please let me know what you recommend, So, I can make the changes!

    Thanks

    Right now I am using this 5 links to learn how to make the private network, I am not looking for auctions domains or resell domains with backlinks, etc with better PR , since I am looking to grow them from the beginning, later there would be other websites on network that I would buy from auctions to get their juice. For now its a lab test to learn how to build this and how it works, let me know what hosting you recommend.

    Thanks
     
  20. codeman1234

    codeman1234 Power Member

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    Is the wiki page idea good at all? Can someone let me know his opinion.

    Thanks