Blocking Your Competition From Viewing Your Ads Or Landing Pages

mystery · Dec 2, 2009

Hello everyone,

Has anyone of you being able to successfully block his competitor from viewing their ads or landing pages?

I've been screwed in the past by some competitor and I don't want it to happen again. Would rather prefer becoming "invisible" to them as opposed to using fraud clicks trackers and such.

Any inputs?

ryeguy · Dec 3, 2009

That isn't possible. How exactly would you be able to distinguish between a competitor and a customer? You can't.

ddawg0169 · Dec 3, 2009

The best you can do for blocking ads is excluding geographical locations, like cities or zip codes. Once someone has come through to your site, you can block or serve alternate content based on IP addresses. That's about the best you can do, and even those solutions don't take a few scenarios into consideration.

madblkhatter · Dec 3, 2009

ddawg, so how exactly do you "block" the IPs

Megalomaniac Midget · Dec 3, 2009

ryeguy said:
That isn't possible. How exactly would you be able to distinguish between a competitor and a customer? You can't.

well you can... but its well out of your reach if your asking the question. You can bounce ppl off your server via the cookies in their browser [specific affiliate cookie], GEO IP filtering [ebay offices], social engineering; fake report fraud button to harvest the faggots IP

q3ick · Dec 3, 2009

You would have to know exactly who your competitors are then, you would have to know there IP's. Only then could you block them...

mystery · Dec 3, 2009

Yes guys, ... as you have said, I've figured out the IP exclusion area in adwords.

I can determine which IPs are repeated more than usual or suspicious (via tracking)... then I can input those IPs in the exclusion area.

The problem is dealing with hardcore competition who can get around this using several random proxies and such.

ddawg0169 · Dec 3, 2009

madblkhatter said:
ddawg, so how exactly do you "block" the IPs

What do you mean by that? Do you want to know about blocking versus serving alternate content? Or are you talking about actual code to deal with IP's you want to blacklist?

ddawg0169 · Dec 3, 2009

mystery said:
Yes guys, ... as you have said, I've figured out the IP exclusion area in adwords.

I can determine which IPs are repeated more than usual or suspicious (via tracking)... then I can input those IPs in the exclusion area.

The problem is dealing with hardcore competition who can get around this using several random proxies and such.

Even the big G or Ebay can't connect the dots when a user is traveling via highly anonymous proxies, clearing cookies (flash included), disabling java, changing user agents, etc. If they can't do it then...well, you get the picture.

csgcsg2 · Dec 3, 2009

No censorship in Internet world. Having said that, focus on more targeted traffic than worrying about your competitor. You are doing business, and if your competitors are spying on you, you are doing something right.

Vice versa and you will always be the butt and not the head in the business.

mystery · Dec 3, 2009

csgcsg2 said:
No censorship in Internet world. Having said that, focus on more targeted traffic than worrying about your competitor. You are doing business, and if your competitors are spying on you, you are doing something right.

Vice versa and you will always be the butt and not the head in the business.

Yes, in my previous campaigns I've had competitors stealing and replicating my content, plus continuously clicking on my ads to drive me out of money... they succeeded. I was running very profitable campaigns before I lost tons of money due to that.

It was a highly competitive niche and I wonder if I still can use my old tracking stats to ask for a refund from google for fraud clicks.

My new niches also have some stubborn competition. That's why I would rather play it safe as much as possible.

Megalomaniac Midget · Dec 4, 2009

people have claimed to have scored refunds off google before for the exactly the same reasons.

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